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Our Army of 1.3 million is not to ‘preach peace’, Manohar Parrikar says

he is speaking too much now days. Warmongering.
I think you need to read more of your own news papers, TV discussions and the rants of your ministers who seem to have nothing else to do but warmongering 24X7 and show their emaciated muscles.
 
I think you need to read more of your own news papers, TV discussions and the rants of your ministers who seem to have nothing else to do but warmongering 24X7 and show their emaciated muscles.

We only reply.
 
Did you know your PAF was vast superior then IAF , your PAK can fire A2A missiles but IAF can only bullets , then also IAF maintain its edge .

How you feel when your A2A missiles loaded planes was short down by bullets carrying planes? Its like indian Hwak Trainer AC taking down PAF -16 ., and even F-16 takes down Hwak its not anything extraordinary it did, it was supposed to do.

IAF dont do anything against Maoists , go learn something ... rather then cook up your own story.

MiG-21 vs F-86?. And no, I said why isn't IAF being used against Maoists, check your reading skills.


so according to you the entair town is an IED manufacturing center.!!!!!???

so according to you the entair town is an IED manufacturing center.!!!!!???
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That's a picture of Abbas town blast, done by terrorists, but you being a retarded Indian, you wouldn't know.


your pics itself is a clear evidence that, that it is a crash landing.
if i'm right then the incident happened in 65 war when indian air force jet suffered damage in an a-a engagement and the pilot crash landed by mistakenly identifying pakistani land as indian territory. that landing was near boder area.


Wrong, it was the conflict of Rann of Kutch, in which an IAF Ouragan jet entered the Pakistan airspace, only to realize that there was a PAF jet, the IAF pilot was about to be blown into pieces, when he lowered his gear as a sign of surrender and landed on the side of the airstrip. Funny, you did't comment on that picture of the Gnat... FDid it hurt your ego?.


This is the picture of the Miranshah raid, the entire NWA was evacuated, some went to inner Pakistan, while other towards Afghanistan. Here: NWA evacuation completes; TTP commander shot dead , So what does your army comment when their soldiers rape women throughout India, what does your navy say when they get caught "swinging" their wives among each other.? Wife swapping a common practice in the Navy: Naval officer's wife:IBNLive Videos

Pathetic people you are indeed.
 
I guess they are not. They still believe what they have learned from their distrauted history.
Remember, one of the 'gang of four' Pakistani generals responsible for the Kargil debacle, mentioned that capturing Siachen after Kargil was going to be a walkover as "Hindu banyas can't fight"!! :woot:

Now they know!! But they never seem to learn probably because of their propaganda machine that has even brainwashed the generals into thinking the IA is a bunch of boneheads! The extent of this nonsense can also be gauged from the utterings of their most revered 'defence analyst', Zaid Hamid who believes that the IA ran from the battlefields in 1965 because they saw "Allah's army riding on horseback with shining swords"!! :rofl: This was followed by massive applause from the audience!! :lol: Jumping jellybeans! They really believed it!! :woot:

The level of discourse in Pakistan is ...oh well, never mind.

The Times of India :omghaha:
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Don't laugh your a$$ off. That report was reproduced from New York Times and then on Stratfor. You seem to go into deliriums without taking the goddamn effort to read.
 
not your fault when your military was signing surrender Document in 71 and PAK people celebrating their victory
:omghaha:
bss kr de bhai. itni bongian ni marte k sun ne wala hi shriminda hone lg jae
 
:omghaha:
bss kr de bhai. itni bongian ni marte k sun ne wala hi shriminda hone lg jae
Ask your father he will tell you ?;)

Why did the Pakistan Army force the Pak media to lie to its own people about Indo-Pak war in 1971? - Quora

What Pak news paper publishing even after surrendering to India...... lol love watch this..... I love when PAK publish a news, that they surrounded Indian army, a day before they surrendering :omghaha::omghaha::haha::haha:
See this and die in shame lol. Why yours leaders have habit of lying always ?

Ok i am a day dreamer.
I dont have time to waste on your nonsense. I added up all artillery power both active and reserve. Indian number was also inclusive of reserves.
You are a troll nothing else. And i am done with you. For nutral readers My post is enough to do a sensible analysis.
While jingoes like you from both India and Pakistan need no attention and time wasting. I am done here. Go bother some one else who can match your stupidity.
Cheers. Stay blessed

What the above video and get some truth . you people have habit of live in denial, always.. see what your news paper publish when PAK army losing war.

Tell which information of Indian is wrong .. you can't able to digest indian numerical superiority ? lol check wiki you will get the numbers, Oh i forget you live in denials like OBL and Khan cases are live examples. looser.

BTW way Indian have 80+ 214mm Pinaka Battery of MBRL's and each battery has 6 launchers + One reserve + 2 Loader +one command + 2 Radar. Get shocked?

MiG-21 vs F-86?. And no, I said why isn't IAF being used against Maoists, check your reading skills..

In in 1964 war Indian don't have MIG 21..... indian only have plans which can fire bullets only and in 1971 also indian have only one Sq of Active MIG21. Despite that IAF done very good job .

Well for IAF / Army is for terrors and not for pretty criminal type goons for that Specialised police is their.
 
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India can't wage a war. It's army is weak, untrained and ineffective. Operation Parakram laid its faults bare. India managed to kill 2,000 of its own soldiers without so much as Pakistan batting an eyelash.

The wars of today have no parallel in history hence your immediate inkling to bring 1971 into this is both an exercise in folly and futility. Let this be bait. Let this also be a paradigm of your ignorance.

The beauty ( read irony ?) is that most Pakistanis do not seem to realise that they already are at war.

Wars need not always be fought at the borders and bullets need not fly.

Wars have not only physical but also economic & social dimensions.
 
Remember, one of the 'gang of four' Pakistani generals responsible for the Kargil debacle, mentioned that capturing Siachen after Kargil was going to be a walkover as "Hindu banyas can't fight"!! :woot:

Now they know!! But they never seem to learn probably because of their propaganda machine that has even brainwashed the generals into thinking the IA is a bunch of boneheads! The extent of this nonsense can also be gauged from the utterings of their most revered 'defence analyst', Zaid Hamid who believes that the IA ran from the battlefields in 1965 because they saw "Allah's army riding on horseback with shining swords"!! :rofl: This was followed by massive applause from the audience!! :lol: Jumping jellybeans! They really believed it!! :woot:

The level of discourse in Pakistan is ...oh well, never mind.


Don't laugh your a$$ off. That report was reproduced from New York Times and then on Stratfor. You seem to go into deliriums without taking the goddamn effort to read.

You have nailed it bro. :cheers:
 
Nowadays mr defense minister have constipation and his stools is getting harder day by day so this reflects in his speeches.
India don't have balls to transfer from soft power to hard power by crying like a bit$ch he just want to raise is price
 
Alfa-Fighter said:
What Pak news paper publishing even after surrendering to India...... lol love watch this..... I love when PAK publish a news, that they surrounded Indian army, a day before they surrendering
So you don't even know how 'truths' are managed by Government and other institutes? Like US media reported truth after 911??.....NO.things are managed to control a nation and how to avoid undesirable response from them.....Take example of your own media. BrainwAshing your nation that India won all wars against Pakistan , ISI is responsible for terrorism in India,India is very innocent and not involved in terrorism in Pakistan even if their leaders accept it openly! Why? Because people want to listen beautiful lies,not bitter truths
 
Ask your father he will tell you ?;)

Why did the Pakistan Army force the Pak media to lie to its own people about Indo-Pak war in 1971? - Quora

What Pak news paper publishing even after surrendering to India...... lol love watch this..... I love when PAK publish a news, that they surrounded Indian army, a day before they surrendering :omghaha::omghaha::haha::haha:
See this and die in shame lol. Why yours leaders have habit of lying always ?



What the above video and get some truth . you people have habit of live in denial, always.. see what your news paper publish when PAK army losing war.

Tell which information of Indian is wrong .. you can't able to digest indian numerical superiority ? lol check wiki you will get the numbers, Oh i forget you live in denials like OBL and Khan cases are live examples. looser.

BTW way Indian have 80+ 214mm Pinaka Battery of MBRL's and each battery has 6 launchers + One reserve + 2 Loader +one command + 2 Radar. Get shocked?



In in 1964 war Indian don't have MIG 21..... indian only have plans which can fire bullets only and in 1971 also indian have only one Sq of Active MIG21. Despite that IAF done very good job .

Well for IAF / Army is for terrors and not for pretty criminal type goons for that Specialised police is their.


Lol, no. IAF had a fleet of MiG-21 at Pathankot. The fleet was bombed by PAF Canberras. And no, IAF did not do good.
 
Allow me to break down your post and refute each point one by one.

First of all, despite the widely acknowledged and reported fact that Musharraf fabricated economic data for Pakistan to show himself in good light - at no point of time in the last decade has Pakistan surpassed India's growth rates. I don't know why some Pakistanis feel otherwise, but pull up any yearly comparison chart for India and Pakistan from any source like ADB,IMF, WB as you like and you will find that Pakistan has not crossed India's growth rates for even one year. I request you to pull up numbers and dont cop out so that you know you were factually wrong.
How about you read my comment, I said before the war on terror began, which was before the last decade. Second, no, Musharraf did not fabricate economic data, he never had a need to. Pakistan's economy was doing pretty well, according to most global banking institutions. So much for your refuting.

The point here was that since Pakistan cannot affect India's economy, the only area that really matters above all else, Pakistan's ability to be a thorn is very very limited.
No, the point was not economics, it was geopolitics. The entire point was geopolitics, stop trying to change the topic to suit your argument.

India does care about foreign influence and which is why we are the biggest influence maker in the SAARC region with the only exception of Pakistan. In all the rest of the nations, India is the biggest influence.
India is the second biggest influence, China is the biggest. Even if India was the biggest, Pakistan is still a thorn that India wants to get rid of, but can't seem to.

The Chinese had managed to string us, but with an effective leadership finally back at our helm, we have practically kicked them out to the extent that Chinese Government in their mouthpeice said that India is the defacto power of South Asia and China should convince India first for any move before it takes other countries(barring Pakistan) along.
Bullshit. India has not managed to kick out the Chinese, they've only been able to slow them down. China is still pushing forward with it's projects in South Asia, even inside India itself ($22 billion promised to India).

Pakistan for a multitude of reasons has close to zero influence in South Asia - yes, even including Sri Lanka. And is simply not capable of being a thorn in India's regional foreign policy.
Pakistan has enough influence in South Asia, just because Indian influence is larger, doesn't mean Pakistani influence doesn't exist. Your blind nationalism is making you believe that India has no challenge in South Asia from Pakistan, when reality shows otherwise.

Your reasoning that India continues to take action against Pakistan somehow mean Pakistan is great in its ability to be a thorn is completely absurd. Pakistan is a regional enemy, and whether it is an effective enemy or not, the GoI will take actions to neutralize that enemy instead of sitting on their collective behinds and ignoring the threat.
I said no such thing. Pakistan's ability to distract India is still there, whether it's great or not is up for debate, but there is no denying that India is far too distracted by Pakistan to continue without a challenge. The CPEC, and Chinese warnings about Indian sabotage is enough to prove that India finds Pakistan as a far greater threat than you seem to think it does.

If tomorrow Nepal or even Mogadishu starts taking actions against India's interests, our Government and military will respond. This does not mean that the enemy are effective, it just means that we would like to ensure that we injure or debilitate every single opponent of ours whether big or small, whether effective or not. We don't sit in royal courts anymore where the emperor ignores some small enemies to make a point or because he thinks they are beneath them. We live in an age where Governments and Nations are proactive.
Your example is absurd, Pakistan is neither Nepal nor Mogadishu. You overestimate India's ability, and underestimate Pakistan.

Lastly, peace has always been in Pakistan's hands. If Pakistan were serious about peace, it would not have started the tribal invasion of Kashmir right in the 1940's or heck started the second war in 1965. Had Pakistan been a defensive military nation, it would not have invoked war. The onus of peace is on Pakistan solely, not India.
Peace is always in the hands of the greater power, not the lesser. Your logic is flawed, and ignores how geopolitics works. It is up to the greater power to show that it is not a threat to the lesser. You bring up Kashmir but ignore it's history, or for that matter, India's own.

The last time, the Govt of India sued for peace blindly under the guidance of dove's was when Kargil happened. And whether you like it or not, Kargil now symbolizes Pakistani behaviour in India. Therefore, India will never be magnanimous in any deal with Pakistan any more.
No it doesn't. Don't be ridiculous. During Musharraf's era, Pakistan and India came very close to signing a peace deal involving Kashmir, but it was India that ended up ruining it, not Pakistan.

Take a hint - India just this month just gave away 10,000 acres of India's territory in Land Boundary settlement which required a special constitutional amendment and thousands of kilometers of maritime sea in a maritime settlement to Bangladesh. By the end of next month (after ratification from 50% of the states of India - a constitutional requirement after Parliamentary ratification), India's dispute on borders with Bangladesh - both land and sea will be over!
BD is not Pakistan (it should never have been, but that's another story), so your example is bad. It is a well known fact that BD is practically an Indian satellite state. Even if it wasn't, the fact that it was INDIA that took the initiative and not BD, proves my point. You literally proved my point.

Goes to show that India will strive for peace and great relations with every nation in South Asia even at cost to itself apart from Pakistan.
No it doesn't. If you think India is doing this out of good will, then you clearly don't understand how geopolitics works. No rising power does this because of good will, it's simply to expand it's influence, and rise it's international stature. No rising nation, not even India, does things out of good will.

Because we understand Pakistani behaviour and more specifically we understand that Pakistan is a military state and the conundrums that every military faces when they make a state their own.
You clearly have been living under a rock for the last decade, if you really believe this. Things have changed, this is not the 1980s. When you say "we", you mean yourself, and you clearly have a poor understanding of Pakistan.

Therefore, as I said. No Government of India will ever or should ever strive for peace with a country like Pakistan which is close to pathological in its attempt to use non-state actors and terrorism. I will not vote for such a government, and neither will fellow Indians.
And there we have it, back to square one. It's like I'm talking to a monkey, who keeps repeatedly doing the samething over and over again, expecting a different result.

You have not read a single thing I've written. So much for your refutation, as you've not done a single thing to refute what I've said.
 

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