Ouch! It's a Baloch punch: US declines to echo Delhi

[The Eagle]

Wait a minute...... What.... but they did sign LEMOA and all those promises and more to come in few days. However, looks like US is not siding openly with India that too on agenda not to loose Pakistan. Obama Administration has seen the changes in the region, the new blocks, new friends and growth through several projects hence not to loose Pakistan like this. It is the fact that Pakistan is still and will remain relevant whenever it has to do with anything with peace and growth of this region though seems like someone is really hurt as there were preparations about total strike out of Pakistan.

US and others are aware of our relations with China, Russia and Turkey alongwith many other countries that too are either anti-US policies or want to break the US influence chain. This is just the beginning so we must continue with equal level of relations policy with US as well and not like more influenced and fulfilling the demands as we have been awarded with an opportunity to get out of this so-called friend relation that never benefited us like we were told. The relations are more of bitter nowadays that too since the CPEC whereby involved China and invited Russia-Turkey for the same is a clear indication that how much US is going to like this or may leave it to progress or help it to grow.

The game is changed but still I believe, we will pursue the independent and not the US centric policy that we were forced to adopt since few years so there is no need to fall for it this time. After a long time, Pakistan is able to walk the right track for the growth and stability and also we have enjoyed enough of the fruits of this friendship and it is the time to reshape, review and revisit the basics of such relations. We should not buy that new stance like this but this time need to be careful. US is just playing the wordy games and I am afraid that the incompetent and corrupt political lot will fall for it as having no other idea nor the guts that may opt a strong stance.

 

[Pakistan First]

Wah bhi Wah!

We sit on US' lap and eagerly become it's lapdog, but we don't care what US says or thinks.

We squeal like pigs when US includes Dawood Ibrahim's name in god-knows-what list, but yet again, don't care about US' policies and position on Bombay attack.

LMAO!

 

[Mamluk]

Even a tiny nation can beat U.S. diplomatically if it has good foreign policy.

Any case study to consider from recent history? There's no one who can beat US diplomatically or any other way, so far. Russia can outmaneuver with military power projection (like Syria) but that's just about anything that comes remotely close to beating the US. You will only be used at great costs to yourselves and the short term benefits are not worth the fight they are preparing you for.

 

[Alpha BeeTee]

Funny.

It's so funny that both Pakistan and India start jumping up and down when the US (apparently) supports their world view and outrightly dismiss the US aggresively when the opposite happens.

US is neither with Pakistan nor with India.It is with itself only.

Pakistan seems to have realize it after so many years but India as of now,has become pawn as was Pakistan and expects too much from the goras.

 

[cerberus]

We squeal like pigs when US includes Dawood Ibrahim's name in god-knows-what list, but yet again, don't care about US' policies and position on Bombay attack.

LMAO!

This US Position on 26 /11 attacks
David Coleman Headley (born Daood Sayed Gilani; 30 June 1960) is an American terrorist of Pakistani[2] origin, and a spy who conspired with the Lashkar-e-Taiba in plotting the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

It has been alleged that Headley made periodic trips to Pakistan for Lashkar training while simultaneously working as an informant for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, but this is disputed.[3][4] Under the direction of Lashkar chiefs, Headley performed five spying missions in Mumbai to scout targets for the attacks, which killed 168 people. The following year, he performed a similar mission in Copenhagen to help plan an attack against the Danish newspaperJyllands-Posten, which had published cartoons of Muhammad. He was arrested at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago while on his way to Pakistan in October 2009.

The Indian public has followed Headley's story closely, considering him to be their equivalent of Osama bin Laden. U.S. authorities gave Indian investigators direct access to Headley,[6] but some in India have questioned why the U.S. had not shared suspicions about him with Indian authorities before the Mumbai attacks.[7] At the trial of Tahawwur Hussain Rana, an alleged co-conspirator, Headley gave detailed information about the participation of Pakistan's Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in carrying out the attacks.[8][9] Since his arrest and guilty plea, Headley has cooperated with U.S. and Indian authorities and given information about his associates.[10][11][12][13] On January 24, 2013, a U.S. federal court sentenced Headley to 35 years in prison for his role in the Mumbai attacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Headley


Pathetic Source of the Blog Its More Like cook up story No such
Briefing Ever occurred by Us state department
Source
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/
Any American Source Please

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Any case study to consider from recent history? There's no one who can beat US diplomatically or any other way, so far. Russia can outmaneuver with military power projection (like Syria) but that's just about anything that comes remotely close to beating the US. You will only be used at great costs to yourselves and the short term benefits are not worth the fight they are preparing you for.

You are just hopeless mate. But we Indians are not. U.S. never supported us at any stage in last few decades. We were against each other almost at every forum. But still we were and we are progressive. We always had a great support of other nations. Now this is the moment when U.S. need India and India need U.S. so we are closer now. Its all about each other interests. We played for our benefits and U.S. play for their own. This relation is based on equality.
And we never expected either that U.S. will support us openly on Blochstan issue. Neither they are against us. U.S stil has their own interests in Pakistan. We can understand as we too has brotherly relation with U.S opponent Russia. Its all about mutual interests. Never mind.

 

[war&peace]

What an embarrassment for the Modi sarkar!

Modi scar is an embarrassment and total disgrace for humanity

 

[tarrar]

Indi is the real trouble maker & terrorist sponsoring country in the region. They will be crying in blood tears in one corner after this.

 

[coffee_cup]

India under Modi has become more shameless.

Openly supporting cross-border terrorism in Pakistan and then crying victim at the same time.

Had there been a more nationalist govt in Pakistan, each time India had moaned about terrorism, they had openly shamed this "Dehati Aurat", reminding her about her support of cross-border terrorism spanning more than half a century.

If neighbors, victims of Indian terrorism, even did 5% of what India has been doing for the last half century, there would not be one single street safe in India today!

 

[koolio]

Moti jee has totally lost the plot, he thinks by raising the issue of Balochistan is going to divert the attention of Iok, the issue of Balochistan is dead, Indians are damn desperate due to Cpec passing through Balochistan and trying to keep its hand clean in Iok.

 

[Mrc]

How this irrational behaviour of modi sarkar is taken in international audience and how much it will damage india's security council and nsg bids ...remains to be seen

 

[kabooter_maila]

Sept. 15: The Obama administration has flatly refused to go along with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's formulations on Balochistan.

It has questioned the contention that Hafiz Saeed was the architect of the Mumbai terrorist attacks in 2008 and firmly ruled out any sanctions on Pakistan for promoting terrorism.

Further, the US has obliquely warned India in public - and more directly in private - about the possibility of a terrorist attack from across the border in Pakistan.


India-Pakistan disputes, which had largely disappeared from being a permanent item on the US state department's daily briefing agenda since the Kargil war and the 2001 Parliament attack, are back at the front and centre of Washington's public enunciation of foreign policy.

In the past one week, India-Pakistan relations took up considerable time every day during the briefings at Foggy Bottom, the site of the state department headquarters. Without mincing words, the Obama administration has made it clear that it wants India and Pakistan to resume their dialogue to "de-escalate tensions" and work towards "cordial, and productive relations".

On Balochistan, the state department's spokesperson, John Kirby, said the US "respects the unity and territorial integrity of Pakistan and we do not support independence for Balochistan".

He refused to make common cause with India on human rights violations in the restive Pakistani province, which were raised by India at the UN Human Rights Council at its ongoing session in Geneva on Wednesday.

When reporters tried to corner the spokesperson on on Modi's Independence Day initiative to internationalise the Balochistan problem, Kirby hastily attempted to end his briefing.

"Okay. Thanks, everybody," he said and folded his briefing book indicating that the press conference was over. Obviously, the Obama administration did not want to snub Modi by openly disagreeing with him.

The reporters managed to extend the briefing, however, by changing the subject. Said one very persevering reporter: "Wait, I got two very...."

He quickly asked a question on Syria which Kirby obligingly answered. Then the briefing continued about the Hezbollah of Lebanon.

Deputy spokesperson Mark Toner's refusal to go along with a reporter's description of Lashkar-e-Toiba co-founder Saeed as the "mastermind" of the terrorist outrage in Mumbai eight years ago was infinitely more unexpected than the US response on Balochistan.

Toner: You are saying this (Saeed) is one of the architects of the Mumbai attack?

Questioner: Yeah.

Toner: Who made this statement? I mean, I would dismiss it outright.

He then proceeded to extol America's "strong bilateral relationship" with Pakistan and argued that the relationship "is premised on counter-terrorism cooperation".

In what sounded like a sop for India, Toner added: "As part of that conversation or that dialogue and that cooperation that we have on counter-terrorism issues, we made it very clear that Pakistan cannot pick and choose which terrorist groups it goes after and it has to go after those groups that seek to do harm to its neighbours and may seek refuge on Pakistani soil."

Reporters took Toner to task for not imposing sanctions on Pakistan for the lack of progress in bringing the perpetrators of the 2008 Mumbai attack to justice: not because it was an attack on India but only because six Americans lost their lives in that terrorist outrage.

"If the same six Americans were killed in any other country, we would have had sanctions, we would have - talk(ed) more tough. Why aren't we doing that with Pakistan? There is - where is the talk? Where is the - it is only the statements from the podiums," ranted an angry reporter at the briefing.

Toner replied: "Well, again, you are asking me - and the question was whether we are looking at sanctioning Pakistan. No. The answer is that we are working with Pakistan, we are making our concerns clear that they need to go after all the terrorist groups that are operating or seeking safe haven on their soil. And that has been our clear objective for a long time now."

In a straight contradiction of the Indian position on the issue, Toner claimed that "we have seen progress (by Pakistan), but we need to see more".

He revealed that the US has been pressing India and Pakistan to share intelligence. "We have been very clear that we want to see accountability and justice in the case of the Mumbai attacks and, as you noted, there were American citizens who lost their lives in that - those terrible attacks. We have long encouraged and pushed for greater counter-terrorism cooperation, and that includes the sharing of intelligence between India and Pakistan in that regard. That continues, those efforts continue. As I said, we want to see full accountability for these terrible attacks."

Sources in Washington have said the Obama administration is worried that if tensions between India and Pakistan continue to be ratcheted up, a terrorist attack like the one in Mumbai eight years ago cannot be ruled out, not necessarily with state support from non-state actors across the border.

These fears were conveyed to India during the recent Strategic and Commercial Dialogue in New Delhi, not on the basis of any hard evidence, but dictated by logic and experiences from the history of India-Pakistan relations.

The public expression of these fears at the state department briefing was very circumspect. Toner said the US was encouraging India and Pakistan to resume their dialogue "out of just that concern, which is that we don't want to see tensions escalate, spiral out of control and lead to some kind of incident".

In intelligence parlance these days, "incident" is code for a terrorist attack. The rationale in having publicly articulated Washington's fears, albeit in a guarded manner, may have been to convey the urgency of resuming the India-Pakistan dialogue to a wider audience than those that were part of the recent Indo-US Strategic and Commercial Dialogue.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1160916/jsp/frontpage/story_108513.jsp#.V9t2G_krLIU

Wow! It’s a big slap on Modi’s face. An unprecedented but deserving master piece from a lame duck president to a infamous murderer Modi. But Modi is a shameless crook and bloody stubborn. Indians would insist on his non-sense even if it is contrary to the basic principles of international relations and it violates the UNO charter. Only a shameless bigot would insist on projecting an internationally recognized part (i.e. Balochistan) of a country as disputed territory in an attempt to deflect attention from the illegal occupation of a disputed state (of Indian-occupied J&K) that not even a single country in world recognizes as part of India.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

The US knows what's in it's interests and even though for some misguided tiny policy circles in US who would be receptive to the idea (to spite China) it would be ideal - it ain't ever gonna happen. This "indias" deflection and diversionary tactics to ward international attention away from the tyrannical genocide of Kashmiris is so pathetic one wouldn't even know where to begin! Kashmir will be liberated and Pakistan will be at the forefront of this mission.

india itself is so polarized as a society with weak internal links and serious ethnic/caste/communal problems and they want to jab around and bark about Balochistan. It's laughable

Our foreign policy doesnt revolved around US policies.We have our own interests and opinion and they have their own .

Right and nobody takes you seriously for a damn

Modi scar is an embarrassment and total disgrace for humanity

It's no wonder even his wife - the nonexistent "First Lady of India" doesn't live with him

 

[Super Falcon]

Yes than what atleast accept you list it if this Obama supported the balouchistan issue you were not saying these words it shows how mind washed are you as terrorist don't accept reality

Don't forget these policies not made by alone president of USA it made by Congress Pentagon and NSA

PAKISTAN has biggest coin in his pocket Pentagon even Trump won't support you in worst possible scinerio even idiot wont

Obama administration is 'mehman of few months' then new administration

 

[Imran Khan]

Obama administration is 'mehman of few months' then new administration

new admins will not from ahmedabad saharanour and pune