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Tamerlane was by far the greatest military genius the Turks have ever produced, and the one of greatest military genius's the Muslim world has ever produced.

It is a shame he had to be so ruthless to his fellow Muslims/Turks though.
 
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What Timur got to do with the Ottomans or Turks lol. Only his tribe was turkified that doesn't make him a turk or doesn't give credit to turks.

Asalamu Alaikum

He's in one of the battles posted above.

Also, he was culturally a Turk, his descendants were Turks, the Mongols themselves are pretty similar to the Turks (they are both Altaic), and Tamerlane probably did have Turkic ancestry.
 
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What Timur got to do with the Ottomans or Turks lol. Only his tribe was turkified that doesn't make him a turk or doesn't give credit to turks.

Timur was a Turk. He is said to be half-Turk by blood, not only that culturally a Turk. Where do you get your information from? From the sound of your reply, you sound like a retard who has never read a book in his life.
 
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Tamerlane was by far the greatest military genius the Turks have ever produced, and the one of greatest military genius's the Muslim world has ever produced.

It is a shame he had to be so ruthless to his fellow Muslims/Turks though.

No, not the greatest. I doubt you know much about Turkish history and generals other than Ottomans and a few others.

Yavuz Selim was a great commander, Alp Arslan, Fatih Sultan Mehmet, Baybars

Bumin Kagan and many other GOkturk founders. Not including Atilla Han etc

Ahh such early judgement, you turks seriously need some basic ethics. So long sucking the Americans?

I don't want to ruin my historic threads by answering to low iq people like you.
 
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From the Kings and General Channel

Starting from 1389 - Kosovo 1389

1396 Nicopolis


Ankara 1402


Varna 1444



Constantinople 1453


Siege of Belgrade 1456, Battles of Targoviste 1462 and Otlukbeli 1473

Been Following these. Havent watched the latest yet tho.
Somewhat accurate but i feel they downplayed some of the battles.
And most sources they used were European sources.
 
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No, not the greatest. I doubt you know much about Turkish history and generals other than Ottomans and a few others.

Yavuz Selim was a great commander, Alp Arslan, Fatih Sultan Mehmet, Baybars

Bumin Kagan and many other GOkturk founders. Not including Atilla Han etc



I don't want to ruin my historic threads by answering to low iq people like you.
Asalamu Alaikum

Tamerlane was undefeated, and conquered more land than most of the generals you listed.

Try again.
 
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Yavuz Selim was a great commander, Alp Arslan, Fatih Sultan Mehmet, Baybars
All of the above were great and exceptional commanders tho i wouldnt place Sultan Selim with Alp Arslan and Baybars, and i admit i dont know much about Mehmed Fatih's battles except taking of Constantinople, which alone puts him in the same league as Alp Arslan and Baybars.
Baybars gave mongols a taste of their own medicine in Ain Jalut and used the greed and arrogance of crusaders against them in Mansurah.
For Alp Manzikert was a jewel.
 
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All of the above were great and exceptional commanders tho i wouldnt place Sultan Selim with Alp Arslan and Baybars, and i admit i dont know much about Mehmed Fatih's battles except taking of Constantinople, which alone puts him in the same league as Alp Arslan and Baybars.
Baybars gave mongols a taste of their own medicine in Ain Jalut and used the greed and arrogance of crusaders against them in Mansurah.
For Alp Manzikert was a jewel.

Sultan Selim took all of levant, hejaz and eygpt in a couple of years. He defeated Shah Ismail and then destroyed the Mamluks and got the title of caliph. He nearly doubled the empire in his reign, not only growth in size, taking Eypgt and leaving a very wealthy Ottoman state to Suleyman.

Asalamu Alaikum

Tamerlane was undefeated, and conquered more land than most of the generals you listed.

Try again.

If you think land size is the most important thing, then you should not be in history threads. Fighting against a whole crusade army multiple times and defeating them is different from destroying small states(this is not related to Timur). Gokturks was probably the largest Turkish empire but that does not mean it was the greatest. Land size is not always relevant/important.

Not to say Timur was not great.
 
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If you think land size is the most important thing, then you should not be in history threads. Fighting against a whole crusade army multiple times and defeating them is different from destroying small states(this is not related to Timur). Gokturks was probably the largest Turkish empire but that does not mean it was the greatest. Land size is not always relevant/important.

Not to say Timur was not great.

Land is not the only factor of course, but it does play a part in things.

Baybars was an excellent military leader too no doubt, but I still think Tamerlane reigns supreme. He was undefeated, and literally conquered almost every major city in the Muslim world. His campaign in the Indian sub-continent was particularly brilliant, despite the harsh journey he still crushed the Delhi Sultanate and used some rather clever tactics, like setting his camels on fire to deal with the elephants.
 
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Tamerlane was by far the greatest military genius the Turks have ever produced, and the one of greatest military genius's the Muslim world has ever produced.

It is a shame he had to be so ruthless to his fellow Muslims/Turks though.

He was indeed a Turk and the reason why Timur was so successful against the Ottomans in Anatolia was that he played that whole Turkic card very good so a lot of Turkic tribes from both Anatolia and Crimea joined his army and fought against the Ottomans...It's also said that it was after the war with Timur that Ottomans declared they were the Kayı Tribe which are connected to Oguz Khan
 
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Dont forget Galicia battle where Ottomans lost 12.000 soldiers!!!!
This number of martyers more than other a lot of battles.


Osmanlı ordusu, Haziran 1916’dan Eylül 1917’ye kadar tarihe Galiçya Cephesi Savaşları olarak geçen ve bugünkü Ukrayna’dan Polonya’nın güneyindeki Krakov’a ve Viyana’ya kadar uzanan hatta Ruslara karşı Alman ve Avusturya ordularıyla birlikte savaştılar. Türk askerleri savaşın kaderini değiştirmiş ve ‘Galiçya Zaferi’Alman, Türk, Avusturya ve bir kısım Polonyalıların galibiyetiyle elde edilmiştir. Ancak bu zafer için ağır bedel ödenmiştir. Sadece Türk ordusu bu cephede 12 bin şehit vermiştir. 6 bin de yaralı olduğu düşünüldüğünde 33 bin kişilik 15. Osmanlı kolordusunun bu cephede yarısının şehit ve gazi olduğunu vurgulamak gerekir. Yunus Emre Enstitüsü, Galiçya’nın yüzüncü yılını unutmamış. “Galiçya Zaferi’ ile ilgili, Polonya’da çeşitli etkinlikler ve sergiler düzenlemektedir. Polonya’da Chrzanow müzesinde bulunan, Polonyalı bir subayın çektiği fotoğraflar, “Türk Atları Vistül Nehrinden Su İçtiğinde” başlığıyla 2016’da ve 2017’de Polonya’nın değişik şehirlerinde sergilenmektedir…

EŞİNE AZ RASTLANIR

Emiroğlu, kataloğun önsöz yazısında da özetle şu görüşlere yer vermiş: “Türk-Leh dostluğu ve Türk-Macar kardeşliği açısından Galiçya cephesi savaşları, tarihte eşine az rastlanır bir örnektir. Çünkü Türkler, Anadolu’dan çok uzaklarda Macar kardeşleri ve Leh dostları ile Alman ve Avusturyalı müttefiklerinin kurtuluşu için yaklaşık 1,5 yıl Ruslara karşı savaşmışlardır. I. Dünya Savaşı’nın sonunda Polonya’nın yeniden bağımsızlığına kavuşmasında, coğrafi olarak uzaktaki fakat zihin ve kalp olarak Polonya’ya yakın dost Türklerin, katkısı bugüne kadar gerektiği gibi vurgulanmamıştır. 100. yılında Galiçya cephesi üzerine yapılacak farklı etkinliklerle, bu konu 2016-2017 boyunca aydınlatılmaya çalışılacaktır. 100. yılında Galiçya cephesi çalışmaları bir nebze olsun bu unutulmuşluğu ortadan kaldırır diye ümit ve temenni ediyorum.”

GALİÇYA’DA NELER OLDU

‘Türk Atları Vistül Nehri’nden Su İçtiğinde’ başlığını taşıyan katalogda, sergi kuratörü Piotr Nykiel, özetle şunları vurguluyor: ‘Galiçya’…

“Almanlarla 2 Ağustos 1914’te ittifak anlaşmasının imzalanmasından sonra, Osmanlı İmparatorluğu’nun üzerine aldığı yükümlülükleri hatırlayan Harbiye Nazırı Enver Paşa, müttefiklerine - Almanya ve Avusturya-Macaristan’a - savaştıkları Avrupa cephelerinin birinde destek verme teklifinde bulunur…

(…) Alman Güney Ordusu bünyesinde savaşan Türkler, Galiçya’da son derece büyük kahramanlıklar göstererek, Rusların Birinci Dünya Savaşı boyunca yaptıkları en büyük iki taarruzunun püskürtülmesinde çok büyük katkıda bulunmuşlardır (bu taarruzlar Haziran-Eylül 1916 Brusilov Taarruzu ve Haziran-Ağustos 1917 Kerenski Taarruzu idi). Ancak bu başarı yaklaşık 12 bin askerin şehadet şerbetini içmesine ve 6 bin civarında askerin yaralanmasına neden olmuştu. Bu zayiat 15. Kolordu’nun 33 bin kişilik kuvvetinin yarısından fazlasını oluşturuyordu.
 
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Turkic history is just a big book of military history you cant even fit it all in one. From nomads to empires.

Victories and defeats which changed history. Not to mention Turks conquered from Vienna to China to even reaching Sudan.
 
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