Osama widow lived in Karachi for months

[Yeti]

Intresting insight into the life of OBL after 9/11

 

[Developereo]

And every single one of them know who Osama is and what he looks like.

Do you think he went for an evening stroll every day or did his own grocery shopping?

If you live in any large city, how many people in the back seat of cars do you recall seeing today? And that's assuming the cars don't have tinted windows, which are quite common in some places.

$25 million reward is a LOT of money!

 

[Zarvan]

KARACHI KO APNAY BAAP KI JAGIR SAMJHA HOA HAI .. A$$H13'S WISH TO KEEP PROBLEMS AWAY FROM HOME""

I have no doubt in suspecting that our own secret agency personal are behind all unrest in the city. They wish to keep things this way so as people are kept distracted from their routine guests

Mr problem in Karachi affects the Army the most and secondly what do you have to say about those 9/11 guys who got the training in USA and the recently Mehra in France who was already on agencies radar even arrested still managed to attack people

 

[Zarvan]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Osama bin Laden spent nine years on the run in Pakistan after the Sept. 11 attacks, during which time he moved among five safe houses and fathered four children, at least two of whom were born in a government hospital, his youngest wife has told Pakistani investigators.
The testimony of Amal Ahmad Abdul Fateh, Bin Laden’s 30-year-old wife, offers the most detailed account yet of life on the run for the Bin Laden family in the years preceding the American commando raid in May 2011 that killed the leader of Al Qaeda at the age of 54.
Her account is contained in a police report dated Jan. 19 that, as an account of that frantic period, contains manifest flaws: Ms. Fateh’s words are paraphrased by a police officer, and there is noticeably little detail about the Pakistanis who helped her husband evade his American pursuers. Nevertheless, it raises more questions about how the world’s most wanted man managed to shunt his family between cities that span the breadth of Pakistan, apparently undetected and unmolested by the otherwise formidable security services.
Bin Laden’s three widows are of great interest because they hold the answers to some of the questions that frustrated Western intelligence in the years after 2001. They are currently under house arrest in Islamabad, and their lawyer says he expects them and two adult children — Bin Laden’s daughters Maryam, 21, and Sumaya, 20 — to be charged on Monday with breaking Pakistani immigration laws, which carries a possible five-year jail sentence.
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The wives have cooperated with the authorities to varying degrees. Investigators say the older women, named in court documents as Kharia Hussain Sabir and Siham Sharif, both citizens of Saudi Arabia, have largely refused to cooperate with investigators. However, Ms. Fateh, who was wounded in the raid that killed her husband, has spoken out.
The report, by a joint investigative panel made up of civilian and military officials, was first noted by the Pakistani newspaper Dawn on Thursday; The New York Times later obtained a copy of the filing. In Washington, United States officials said that while they could not confirm every detail of the report, it appeared generally consistent with what is known and believed about Bin Laden’s movements.
In the report’s account, Ms. Fateh said she agreed to marry Bin Laden in 2000 because “she had a desire of marrying a mujahid.” She flew into Karachi in July that year and, months later, crossed into Afghanistan to join Bin Laden and two other wives at his base on a farm outside Kandahar.
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The Sept. 11 attacks caused the Bin Laden family to “scatter,” the report said. She returned to Karachi with her newborn daughter, Safia, where they stayed for about nine months. They changed houses up to seven times under arrangements brokered by “some Pakistani family” and Bin Laden’s elder son, Saad.
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Other senior Qaeda figures were also in Karachi, a sprawling city of up to 18 million people. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, claims to have personally killed the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl there during this period; he was captured at a house in Rawalpindi in March 2003.
Ms. Fateh said she left Karachi in the second half of 2002 for Peshawar, the capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Province, where she was reunited with her husband. The American pursuit of Bin Laden was running high: Qaeda operatives had attacked an Israeli-owned hotel in Kenya and nightclubs in Indonesia, and with C.I.A. intelligence resources not yet diverted to Iraq, the search was firmly focused on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border area.
Interactive: A timeline of Osama bin Laden's life (on this page)
Bin Laden, according to his wife, took his family deep into rural mountain areas of northwest Pakistan — but not, notably, into the tribal belt where much Western attention was focused. First they stayed in the Shangla district in Swat, a picturesque area about 80 miles northwest of the capital, Islamabad, where they stayed in two different houses for eight to nine months.
Then in 2003 they moved to Haripur, a small town even closer to Islamabad, where they stayed in a rented house for two years. Here, Ms. Fateh gave birth to a girl, Aasia, in 2003 and a boy, Ibrahim, in 2004 — both of whom were delivered in a local government hospital. The police report states that Ms. Fateh “stayed in hospital for a very short time of about 2-3 hours” on each occasion. A separate document states that she gave fake identity papers to hospital staff.
Finally, in mid-2005, according to Ms. Fateh, Bin Laden and his family moved to Abbottabad, 20 miles east of Haripur, where she gave birth to another two children: Zainab in 2006 and Hussain in 2008.
Mr. Fateh told investigators that the houses in Swat, Haripur and Abbottabad were organized by their Pashtun hosts, identified as two brothers named Ibrahim and Abrar, whose families stayed with them throughout. Ibrahim is believed to refer to Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, a Pakistani-born Pashtun who grew up in Kuwait and who was known for a time to American intelligence as “the courier,” because he carried the Qaeda leader’s messages.
When Navy SEAL commandos stormed the Abbottabad house last May, they killed Bin Laden and shot Ms. Fateh, who was in the same room, in the leg. She survived but four others were killed in the raid: the courier, his wife Bushra, his brother, Abrar, and Bin Laden’s 20-year-old son, Khalil.
Slideshow: After the raid: Inside bin Laden's compound (on this page)
Bin Laden’s three wives are now confined to a rented house in Islamabad. On Tuesday, a cousin of Ms. Fateh’s in Yemen claimed that she was being held in a basement. “She limps from a bullet wound in her knee, and she’s suffering from psychological trauma and very low blood pressure,” Hameed al-Sadeh told Reuters.
Ms. Fateh’s account, if proven, suggests that American military forces came tantalizingly close to Bin Laden in late 2005. In October of that year, a giant earthquake struck northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 73,000 people. For weeks afterward, American Chinook helicopters, diverted from Afghanistan and carrying relief supplies, passed overhead on their way into the quake zone. Meanwhile, Pakistan’s military ruler, Pervez Musharraf, then a close ally of the Bush administration, repeatedly asserted that Bin Laden was sheltering across the border inside Afghanistan.
The Pakistani decision to prosecute the three wives and two children goes against an earlier recommendation from the police that they be deported to Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Pakistani analysts said that suggested that Pakistani intelligence may have hidden reasons for detaining the family. “I think the government wants to hang on to them through a trial procedure so that the investigation can be completed,” said Riffat Hussain, a defense analyst. “And I think the Americans are quite keen to have access to Osama’s wives, too.”
This article, "On the run, bin Laden had 4 children and 5 houses, a wife says," first appeared in The New York Times.

 

[Icewolf]

Execute Osama's wives. They are guilty for treason and not telling the GoP of their husband's criminal activites and his whereabouts.

 

[Amolthebest]

Do you think he went for an evening stroll every day or did his own grocery shopping?

If you live in any large city, how many people in the back seat of cars do you recall seeing today? And that's assuming the cars don't have tinted windows, which are quite common in some places.

$25 million reward is a LOT of money!

You are talking from layman's view. Government and Intelligence Agencies never doubted not for a second? That too when every other country are crying foul about Osama's existence in Pakistan? Not believable.

 

[Zarvan]

Execute Osama's wives. They are guilty for treason and not telling the GoP of their husband's criminal activites and his whereabouts.

First the didn't do any treason secondly all of your governments are the biggest treason and after LAL Masjid operation we had more than 3000 Suicide bombings and and hanging the three of wife of those who thousands and thousands think as their biggest hero of this century you are inviting the biggest trouble

 

[Icewolf]

First the didn't do any treason secondly all of your governments are the biggest treason and after LAL Masjid operation we had more than 3000 Suicide bombings and and hanging the three of wife of those who thousands and thousands think as their biggest hero of this century you are inviting the biggest trouble

Treason is hurting a nation's sovereignty. Of course, after al-Qaeda was bombing our masjids and schools, that definently was a treasonous act and the wives were involved by not telling GoP of it and helping to capture Bin Laden.

Secondly, it is a good idea we should teach these terrorists who we really are too much soft talk and soft missions by PA we need to take more offensive routes now or never.

 

[A1Kaid]

Aren't his wives Saudi? Or of other Arab nationalities?

 

[Zarvan]

Treason is hurting a nation's sovereignty. Of course, after al-Qaeda was bombing our masjids and schools, that definently was a treasonous act and the wives were involved by not telling GoP of it and helping to capture Bin Laden.

Secondly, it is a good idea we should teach these terrorists who we really are too much soft talk and soft missions by PA we need to take more offensive routes now or never.

You must be kidding sir these so called terrorists are fighting to achieve martyerdrom and you will gift them by hanging them great idea sir really great idea at least first study what is this phenomena and Sir you Government betrayed Muslims by becoming slaves of american and bombing Muslims of their own country on American orders what do you expect from Muslims to do ?

 

[killerx]

Osama was full of surprise for sure cant wait to hear Obama and Osama half brothers

 

[Icewolf]

You must be kidding sir these so called terrorists are fighting to achieve martyerdrom and you will gift them by hanging them great idea sir really great idea at least first study what is this phenomena and Sir you Government betrayed Muslims by becoming slaves of american and bombing Muslims of their own country on American orders what do you expect from Muslims to do ?

You are defending them? These al-Qaeda terrorists are blowing up masjids, True or False? These al-Qaeda terrorists are blowing up schools and harassing civilians, True or False?

I cannot believe when a Pakistani defends al-Qaeda's un-Islamic actions.

 

[Zarvan]

You are defending them? These al-Qaeda terrorists are blowing up masjids, True or False? These al-Qaeda terrorists are blowing up schools and harassing civilians, True or False?

I cannot believe when a Pakistani defends al-Qaeda's un-Islamic actions.

Sir first know what your Army has done in civilian areas on American orders you will be really very embarrassed and yes if the did what you are saying they did than they really pathetic and horrible things but still I don't expect anything else from a man or a any person whose family you have killed by aerial bombing on some one else order I don't expect anything good from him what our army need to do is stop corpora ting with America because it will always remain our enemy and talk to these guys other wise America will run away one day and we won't end this war

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Do you think he went for an evening stroll every day or did his own grocery shopping?

If you live in any large city, how many people in the back seat of cars do you recall seeing today? And that's assuming the cars don't have tinted windows, which are quite common in some places.

$25 million reward is a LOT of money!

Which just means that Osama and family had "high level, high-quality, expert, professional help" to keep them out of view.
Which was just simply more powerful and efficient than the $25 million dollar bounty lure on his head.
Q.E.D.

 

[Developereo]

You are talking from layman's view. Government and Intelligence Agencies never doubted not for a second? That too when every other country are crying foul about Osama's existence in Pakistan? Not believable.

All throughout the time, up until the raid itself, the claim was that he was hiding in the mountainous region along the Pak-Afghan border. Nobody had any reason to go looking for him in Karachi, of all places.

Which just means that Osama and family had "high level, high-quality, expert, professional help" to keep them out of view.
Which was just simply more powerful and efficient than the $25 million dollar bounty lure on his head.
Q.E.D.

Having tinted windows on your car doesn't require 'high level' government support. Just a few thousand rupees.

Your average middle class car owner can afford it.