Osama Dead. Obama Confirms.

[Green Bullet]

When countries harbour terrorists they make THEMSELVES targets.

And what about Iraq, you murdered thousands of people all in the name of WMD, but you never found any. Did those people harbour Terrorists, I don't think so.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

 

[tanlixiang28776]

 

[DesiGuy]

I wonder what the future holds for Pakistan!!!!

let's see what the Taliban are up-to...

 

[mechanical]

Speaking of bombing a interesting bit




In March, President Obama Authorized Development of Plan to Bomb Compound but Wanting Evidence of OBL

what took america to come up with a practical plan finally after 10 years??

 

[tanlixiang28776]

 

[Desertfalcon]

And what about Iraq, you murdered thousands of people all in the name of WMD, but you never found any. Did those people harbour Terrorists, I don't think so.

Saddam Hussein's government made itself a target when they illegally invaded Kuwait, when they used weapons of mass destruction against their own people (Halabja), when they defied United Nations sanctions, when they continuously threatened their neighbours, when they attempted to assassinate a former US President, when they fired on American aircraft enforcing authorised UN sanctions and no-fly zones, when they defied UN inspectors. We informed Mr. Hussein ahead of time that we would use force to enforce UN resolutions if he did not comply. We gave Mr. Hussein every opportunity to leave his country peacefully. He chose to fight us. He sealed his own fate. He is responsible for the destruction he brought down on his own country.

 

[AAtish]

With all due respect, our 3,000 were not superior to anyone, but my country has a moral obligation to defend it's people and bring justice to those who have murdered them.

Its obligation of every country.. Pakistan included..

We try to avoid unnecessary causalities, but it is those countries, who HARBOUR the terrorists who killed my countrymen, who must bear responsibility for endangering the lives of their own people by allowing such evil people to call their country home.

If you have forgotten.. Taliban and AQ were in Afghanistan.. and they were PUSHED to Pakistan..

We have a saying in the American west. "You ride with an outlaw...you die with an outlaw." When countries harbour terrorists they make THEMSELVES targets. This is what the Taliban government did to Afghanistan. They made Afghanistan a target by allowing Al-Qaeda to stay there.

I think.. 9/11 was failure of YOUR Intelligence Agencies so i think you do not have right to judge any one of being harboring terrorists or not.. Besides.. as per a part of YOUR nation believes.. 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB..

 

[manojb]

The short version of the story: Barack Obama promised to do whatever it took to get Osama bin Laden and defeat the people who attacked us on 9/11 so that we could end the so-called war on terrorism. John McCain said he was naive. Barack Obama won the election and did what he promised. And there’s no doubt if he hadn’t won, things would have turned out differently.

[video]http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002872/[/video]

He told you..that he is coming after you!!! Hats off to Obama.. that was gutsy decision.

 

[muse]

It's going to be super interesting to see what "story" the Pakistani establishment comes up with - I use "story" because I don't expect anything as complicated and deep as a "narrative" -- Basically it's going to be pleading and I think you'll find that the Pakistanis will be pushing the "we're incompetent" line -- and the US of course will be pushing the "they didn't know, so don't cut off their money, but we'll give them a little less"

After a while, it wil become clearer that Pakistani authorities have no intention of playing US lab dog, then the gloves will come off, the Indians will have unfriendly noises and gestures, "Some Army types" will suggest the civilians need to chill out where their off shore bank accounts are, the US will and "coalition" types will point out what happened to Mubaraak and Ghaddafi's bank accounts

And then the Chinese will issue a statement of support - Pakistan will drown in deeper in a sea of extremist fantasies ---

Really, if the Army and the ISI are incompetent, why are they needed? And if they are required, clearly a "competent" Fauj and ISI are very different from the one we have now - right??

So, yeah, interesting times ahead - my best guess, the US can basically get whatever it wants from this Fauj, while the iron is hot, so to speak.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Its obligation of every country.. Pakistan included..

Agreed.

If you have forgotten.. Taliban and AQ were in Afghanistan.. and they were PUSHED to Pakistan..

Then it was Pakistan's responsibility to defend it's own borders and keep them from entering your country.

I think.. 9/11 was failure of YOUR Intelligence Agencies so i think you do not have right to judge any one of being harboring terrorists or not.. Besides.. as per a part of YOUR nation believes.. 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB..

Then that part of my nation is wrong...and nuts, for believing in such a crazy myth. I can't stop it if people want to believe in crazy lies. And most certainly 9-11 WAS an American intelligence failure. We have been improving our security since then.

 

[53fd]

Very interesting piece. It says this event was pre-planned by the ISI & the CIA, Pasha/Kiyani & Panetta/Mullen. Pakistan had to make the 'ultimate sacrifice', to become the scapegoat, to end the WOT, to give the US a graceful exit from Afghanistan. Very plausible.

Behind Osama’s Death!!! « News From North and South

We – in this post – will take a closer look to the incidents taken place before this operation and demise of Osama.

ISI and Pakistani Security establishment toughens tones with respect to American and CIA policies.

Raymond Davis captured in Pakistani city of Lahore and returned to America after the payment of blood money called Diyat to the victims of the slain men. Americans faced the wrath of public and pooh-poohed the payment of Diyat and placed it on head of Saudis.

ISI Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha went to Washington and met with CIA Chief Leon Panetta and looked into the eye of former and told him key Pakistani demands.

Panetta told media that Americans ought to have good working relationship with ISI and confessed that there had been few differences in the opinion but they now have been worked out for the better cooperation in the future.

Americans approved the transfer of Raven Drone aircrafts to Pakistan as efforts to counter insurgency in Pakistan. Transfer of the Drone technology was the key demand of Pakistan. The concern has been communicated to Panetta in Pasha-Panetta meeting in Washington. Interestingly, meeting took place in Pakistani Embassy in Washington. Imran Khan staged a sit-in on the main supply route of NATO Forces in Peshawar.

Americans communicated Indians through back channel that they have to develop a more workable strategy with respect to Pakistan and Indian Security Establishment reaches ISI and Pakistani Security Establishment that they believe to be still in-charge of Pakistani India Policy. It should be noted also that Trade Talks were held between Pakistan and India and it was decided unanimously that Indians will abolish all Pakistan specific tariff barriers.

American Ambassador to India resigns and mentions his personal differences and reasons along with official for the resignation. The Ambassador always took tougher stand on Pakistan whenever it came to satisfying Indian sentiments regarding terror-outfits in Pakistan and Mumbai attacks. Just after the resignation, Indian Security establishment gave the contract of the induction of New Generation aircrafts in its fleet to European companies instead of American companies. American Pentagon strongly deplored the cancellation of the contract.

White House and Department of Foreign Affairs issues a statement that Indians should look beyond Pakistan. They have a role to play in Afghanistan but they should look beyond Pakistan. Now here we see that Americans who had been professing greater role of India in Afghanistan phrased their sentence so that it became evident that Americans are now seeing Post America AFPAK where Pakistan’s interests will be protected and Indo-Pak stance on Afghanistan will be neutralized.

Army Chief Kiyani, ISI Chief Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha and PM Gillani went to Kabul in one plane and held important talks with Afghan President Karzai and broke the negotiations with Taliban. Americans supported the negotiations with Taliban and Saudi Arabia also provided ample base and support for the negotiations. Al-Qaeeda showed its displeasure over the negotiations and Taliban in Pakistan vowed to mow the talks through Suicide attacks. In the meanwhile Zardari strikes a deal with PML(Q) and power sharing formula has been agreed upon. PML(N) Shahbaz Sharif meets Army Chief late in the night and went straight to Army House.

News of Helicopter crash flashed on TV and then at 4 AM President Obama confirms that Osama bin Laden is dead!!!
So we see that the events that happened before the demise of Laden show clearly that ISI gained its key demands and handed over Laden to Americans which are desperately looking for a graceful exit strategy from Afghanistan. With Osama dead, Americans will pack up from Afghan stage and will call back the soldiers. This was of course a threat to Karzai who feared that Taliban will definitely recapture Afghanistan as they are already very strong in Southern Afghanistan such as in Kandahar where recently 500 Taliban escaped after breaking a Jail. So what everyone got out of this deal?

Pakistan: ISI got its role back with less Indian interference in Afghanistan and Taliban representation in Afghan National Government. Army got Drone technology and closure of Indian Espionage missions on Afghan side of Durand Line that are supporting Terrorists inside Pakistan. Zardari earned his two more years and a deal of power sharing was finalized with PML (Q) that Zardari dubbed as Qatil (murderer) League on the occasion of Soyam of Slain Benazir Bhutto. PML (N) earned its Punjab government and assurance that Punjab Government will not be toppled through in-house seat adjustment between PML (Q) and PPP.

Afghanistan: Karzai got his presidency. Taliban got their recognition in Afghan Game of Power and their long demand of American departure from region is met though clandestinely.

America: USA won its safe and graceful exit. Obama had this one feather to put in his cap and especially when Elections are in hand. American public was calmed down by the corpse of Laden. American Soldiers won their departure to their homeland. Key American motive of killing Laden has been fulfilled.

 

[Speeder 2]

It shouls be " I was majoring Forgery In Harvard while you still got pis* drunk every night in Taxas night clubs".

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[DesiGuy]

Very interesting piece. It says this event was pre-planned by the ISI & the CIA, Pasha/Kiyani & Panetta/Mullen. Pakistan had to make the 'ultimate sacrifice', to become the scapegoat, to end the WOT.

that's a great excuse.....tell Zardari to say when talking to world Media.

 

[MastanKhan]

You know what I would have done in this situation if I were in charge of PA, as soon as I realized that the Americans got Osama, I would have captured all the other terrorists too like Haqqani, Mullah Omar and company.

This could have been used to save Pakistan and show that we were part of the major plan.

Alternatively, the PA should have killed or captured Saudi terrorist Osama and they would have been hailed as global heros.

But you know our incompetent religiously challenged fools.

What can be done now is that the men involved are captured and handed over to US for prosecution while a secular party comes into power based on the pretense of changing this countries forced extremist religious identity.

Hi,

that is absolutely the right attitude and course of action----pak knows that it is a hole----and it needs to get out of it and there is only one way---a massive lighteing strike----a blitzkreig-----now is the time----ythis the day to start the strike on no waziristan----no holds barred----no peace talks----.

Now as the pak intel sanctioned this web-site---because they read the comments on this board---i hope they read your comments and wake up to the reality----this worlds is turning ugly towards pakistan at a very fast pace----.

i think and believe thatit is time to FIRE GEN KIYANI AND GEN PASHA----whatever they did---helped or not----their plan back fired----they need to be shunted out---new general brought in----and pak needs to go for these miserable like there is no tomorrow----.

something is lost----but not all is lost----pakistan can re-coupe its losses and face saving with a massive strike on the taliban and al qaeda----