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Original words of Donald Lu in Cipher

The finding of a body itself points strongly to murder having taken place.

Maybe it was suicide? Accusations of murder require actual, incontrovertible proof in a court of law with jurisdiction, and with a defense and rebuttal. Due process and all that, you know.
 
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U.S has alot of Pak army and politicians balls in hand. Like Imran said their wealth and ultimate priorities lay abroad so they are compromised.

The threat was against Imran but ultimately stung Pakistan's corrupt elites, U.S knew ultimately the signal was enough to shape events to their liking via their stooges.
 
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Maybe it was suicide? Accusations of murder require actual, incontrovertible proof in a court of law with jurisdiction, and with a defense and rebuttal. Due process and all that, you know.

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So where is the threat or conspiracy in these words, if indeed true?

This sounds more like a policy statement from a country that is expressing its response as a sovereign nation to a constitutional procedure in a democratic country. If the vote failed, exPMIK would have been isolated from USA, and correctly so, given his well known utterances. If he were voted out, USA would be willing to make a new start with whoever replaced him. Perfectly logical.

Surely, no one is naïve enough to think that exPMIK should have been free to do whatever he pleased without international repercussions. In other words, do the deeds as you wish, but then be prepared for the fallout too. ExPMIK never received a call from the White House even before all this, so it was not like he was in good graces to begin with, and then he chose to forge his own way forward as the headstrong man that he was, and is.

Simple enough. No conspiracy or complaints needed.


Are you dumb in general or just acting like one here?
 
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Maybe it was suicide? Accusations of murder require actual, incontrovertible proof in a court of law with jurisdiction, and with a defense and rebuttal. Due process and all that, you know.
Indeed. But you know in state to state actions there is no higher judiciary or law enforcement. Thus we wil never get 'incontrovetible proof' unless years later US admits it or paper are declassified in about 2122 when all of us are dead. If you had been around when Dr Mossadeq was 'regime raped' by CIA in Iran 1953 you would have been asking but but where is the 'incontrovertible proof''.

And even when in from of the entire world 'incontrovertible proof' is proffered it often turns out to be ball oxe.


'Incontrovertible test tube full of my sperm' evidence of Eye-raqi weapon of mass destruction.

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Maybe it was suicide? Accusations of murder require actual, incontrovertible proof in a court of law with jurisdiction, and with a defense and rebuttal. Due process and all that, you know.
They should have formed a JIT like panama and agencies should have got all the evidences
 
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In times of national crisis, army backs its elected PM instead of chickening out to US.
True in a ideal world. Even in USA we saw not long ago a crack apear between Trump and his generals that was big enough for Titanic to sail through. At times it sounded to near refusal of the generals to follow what Trump wanted.
 
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Call this on the wild side but my feeling is Biden and IK have some personal issues. I heard IK talking about having met BIden decade go and his tone was very dismissive. To add to this IK stood solid with Taliban Afghanistan and much of that anger for US dfeat was vented toward IK. He became the face of the US cockup in Afghanistan and a hate figure by US establishment which Biden is integral part of. Then the Russian visit followed on the very public 'absolute no' to US made matters even worse.

If Trump wins again and IK comes back in power the whole equation will be reset. Even now Trump can be heard fawning over IK. The fact that IK got on with Trump just adds even more salt up Bidens backside.

Notice Biden has not caled IK once since he took over which should tell us something that he had nuts stuck in backside right from day one with IK.
Maybe, but I doubt an ego maniac like Trump will just listen to IK's frequent jibes on American policy failures and do nothing.
 
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Original words of Donald Lu as per shireen mazari:

"If the vote of no confidence does not succeeded and Prime minister Imran Khan remains in office, He will be isolated from US and we will take the issue head on.

If the vote of no confidence succeeds, all will be forgiven."

How come Pakistan army let this happen after reading this 😔😔😔

Literally heart breaking for me






You kids all got it wrong.
DG ISI is right.
And so is the PDM.
This was not a "saazish", nor a threat, that the security apparatus had to defend the country and government from.
It was a "command" to the American slaves in our higher state of affairs. They received the command and facilitated its execution.
Have you ever seen things happen so fast and courts being opened in the middle of the night and on the weekend? Everyone did their best to earn more brownie points from their masters and gods in Washington.

You are all too naive to call it a threat or saazish.
Those happen against free people with free people sitting on the helms. Ours are simply not.
 
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I am certain that Mir Jafar, Mir Sadiq and their cronies, in their own minds, deemed themselves to be working in the "broader national interests". This "chooran" is quite ancient, and has been repeatedly sold to the pliable public.
 
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If anything, army has put a seal and confirmed their involvement in this US regime change operation.

How can the DGISPR be so dumb that he doesn't realize that by confirming that US interfered in Pak's internal matters and army did nothing to stop it, he is directly implicating the institution.

Afterwards saying that so-called economic stability was witnessed the day new govt took oath, he has completely politicized the institution by publicly siding with the opposition. Never seen a bigger moron.

The whole nation knows that army elite was part of this operation but you don't need to spell it out. At least maintain some cover and leave room for plausible deniability. After all you are the number 1 spy agency in the whole damn world.
 
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