Options for PAF After India Selects Rafale for MMRCA

[Edevelop]

I thought J10B is good enough taking on Rafale.but if PAF want to take on MKI, J-11B is needed. But J-10b will render PAF the ability to deep strike, J-10B is more like Rafale not EFT.

This tells us something eh

 

[IceCold]

Isnt that one of the reasons why India did not attack Pakistan post 26/11?

No this is not the reason at all for India not to attack Pakistan. I can go in detail but then the very purpose of this thread will be lost.

 

[GORKHALI]

As to take on Rafale even sole SU 30mki is not enough then leave out the rest like J10B or J11 etc.
To Tackle Rafale wrath you need Something close to it like Rafale itself or Typhoon which PAF not going to get even if it want some units.
All they have is ,send a batch of 4-f16 to take on 1 Rafale ,kinda 4:1 ratio which is PAF best bet I guess,if all is well and with allah!!! Grace ,you will come as winner but with 2 F16 lost .Not bad though considering you succeded to shot down 1 RAFALE

 

[GORKHALI]

And to all pakistani members please do not consider J 20 as ulimate solution for all your pain as this is a differnt class altogether and we have our own FGFA ready before you started getting or even Chinese airforce statred recieving 1st few.

Please keep the discussion to 4 to 4.75 Gen aircrafts inventory only.

 

[Mani2020]

As to take on Rafale even sole SU 30mki is not enough then leave out the rest like J10B or J11 etc.
To Tackle Rafale wrath you need Something close to it like Rafale itself or Typhoon which PAF not going to get even if it want some units.
All they have is ,send a batch of 4-f16 to take on 1 Rafale ,kinda 4:1 ratio which is PAF best bet I guess,if all is well and with allah!!! Grace ,you will come as winner but with 2 F16 lost .Not bad though considering you succeded to shot down 1 RAFALE

Lol interesting how the words and self perceived thoughts change around too quickly .... once the mki was ultimate killing machine who was 2nd just to f-22 raptor... indians claimed that no aircraft other than f-22 is better than su3o-mki may it be Rafale or typhoon....and even people use to give examples of exercises in which mki out classed typhoon,f-16.f-15 and Rafale ....and now as the Rafale is declared he winner of MMRCA and people started to feel that its coming in IAF ...now certainly mki becomes not even worthy of 1 rafale this is your exact line and i quote "As to take on Rafale even sole SU 30mki is not enough".....uhhhhhhhh making mockery of urself kiddoo

 

[Mani2020]

And to all pakistani members please do not consider J 20 as ulimate solution for all your pain as this is a differnt class altogether and we have our own FGFA ready before you started getting or even Chinese airforce statred recieving 1st few.[/B]

Please keep the discussion to 4 to 4.75 Gen aircrafts inventory only.

now this is some heck of a generation ......and a hell of a msg to PAF

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistani should not focus on getting soon J-10B India will induct those planes in 10 years span so by that time Pakistan should also try to get around 100 J 10 B with 250 JF -17 Block and if possible block 3 to and also get all of its F-16 Upgraded and by that time even J-20 or some other stealth plane will be also ready to get inducted the only issue will be of money

 

[帅的一匹]

WS-10B is reaching the level of F100-PW-220 , it improve in HP compressor,annualr combustor,high-pressure turbine
in the reference of core engine of AL-31F.To reduce the weight further by expanding the scope of application of titanium alloys. For Afterburner and nozzle optimization design, the introduction of new high temperature resistant alloys, improved cooling design, reduce the weight. Optimization design of high pressure turbine blade structure design, without a Crown design, enhanced composite film and convection cooling technology. Level 2 blisk structure after the fan is used. Because of using three - dimensional computational fluid dynamics design,the fan efficiency significantly improved to a pressure ratio of 3.4 by using blisk, eliminating dovetail and stress concentration at the Clapper, reducing the number of parts, reduced weight, reducing leakage structure.

 

[t_for_talli]

Junta Its simple math

You have a defense budget which is 1/6th of India's
You are maintaining army which is 1/2 of India's
So most of your budget goes into the Salary of armed forces and maintaining current inventory(because X/6 is allotted to cover for X/2)
So you cant have both quality as well as quantity with limited resources
accept it

 

[Myth_buster_1]

The only way for PAF to survive next War is to have China man presence in their bases with their hot toys

 

[Zarvan]

Junta Its simple math

You have a defense budget which is 1/6th of India's
You are maintaining army which is 1/2 of India's
So most of your budget goes into the Salary of armed forces and maintaining current inventory(because X/6 is allotted to cover for X/2)
So you cant have both quality as well as quantity with limited resources
accept it

Sir their is no much difference now Sir and you will have these planes in 10 year time and by that time we will also have great numbers of J-10 B and JF -17 Block 2 and around 80 F -16

 

[帅的一匹]

As to take on Rafale even sole SU 30mki is not enough then leave out the rest like J10B or J11 etc.
To Tackle Rafale wrath you need Something close to it like Rafale itself or Typhoon which PAF not going to get even if it want some units.
All they have is ,send a batch of 4-f16 to take on 1 Rafale ,kinda 4:1 ratio which is PAF best bet I guess,if all is well and with allah!!! Grace ,you will come as winner but with 2 F16 lost .Not bad though considering you succeded to shot down 1 RAFALE

I thought we will pressure on France goverment in the time of CHINA-INDIA conflict, you can't get those Rafale componetns supplied in time. Dont trolling those 4 F-16BLOCK50 for 1 Rafale day dream, nearly 0 possibility.

 

[Edevelop]

Junta Its simple math

You have a defense budget which is 1/6th of India's
You are maintaining army which is 1/2 of India's
So most of your budget goes into the Salary of armed forces and maintaining current inventory(because X/6 is allotted to cover for X/2)


So you cant have both quality as well as quantity with limited resources
accept it

Don't forget that Pakistan is a lot smaller than Indian in terms of size.
Our population is 180 million, and yours is over 1 billion.
In the end, your country's population is almost x10 than us, therefore it only makes sense why you spend more on defence to protect your areas.
Whatever we have now or would be willing to spend on is perfect...
Keep these reasons in mind....

 

[kingofkings]

The only way for PAF to survive next War is to have China man presence in their bases with their hot toys

So you have lost hope in surviving of your own ????

 

[Raje amar]

Please keep in mind the effect of bilateral nuclear deterrence. All the rest pales in comparison.

So when a bullet will be fired front Indian side, Pakistan will reply with Nuclear Missile??????

Great logic keep it up.