Opinionated - Should India worry if Pakistan becomes rich?

[LeGenD]

The original UN resolution is dead as a dodo. The geography of Kashmir has changed so much that, any attempt at resolution of Kashmir will invariably invite China to the table as China also holds two pieces of land that belonged to the state of J&K which you settled without any regard for UNSC resolution, and what India couldn't acquire from China in 62. So, we scrapping Art 370 is as same as you giving provincial status to GB, which I say is the best way to move forward. (Regardless how Indian diplomatic language seem)

Pakistans issue in its Northern as well was NW provinces are the same as what we experience in our North East. You have an issue there, we are not trying to stake a claim over it unlike you in Kashmir. Even if what you allege is true, India is supplying weapons through Afghanistan under the nose of Taliban and NATO forces. Call that impossible unless either one of those is working with us. Bar Afg government that's not true. You know the real issues in there, you just can't blame them directly.

We are well past coming to any negotiating table, Pakistan is not exactly a democracy it's hard to deal with such hybrid regimes and cumbersome. ABV tried and failed, MMS smart guy didn't even bother, Modi tried and failed twice.

Take your time and read this: https://thewire.in/south-asia/interview-imran-khan-nsa-moeed-yusuf-pakistan

I do not even recall a sincere effort from Modi Sarkar to commence talks with Pakistan on the issue of Kashmir - such was the level of effort and publicity put into it from your side.

When former COAS Pervez Musharraf reached out to India for resolution of Kashmir in 2001 (Agra Summit), the entire world learned about this initiative and there were smiles on many faces. Indian HAWKS squandered this opportunity for Indian PM Atal Bihari Vajpayee in the end unfortunately.

When Vajpayee and Musharraf 'Almost Resolved' the Kashmir Dispute - News18

History remembers the Agra Summit as one of the greatest missed opportunities of India-Pakistan relations. Former Pakistan Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri in his book ‘Neither a Hawk nor a Dove’ wrote that the “solution to Kashmir was in the grasp of both governments”.

www.news18.com

You could not get a better initiative then that.

Sorry, man.

 

[nahtanbob]

A richer Pakistan means more money to procure more weapons, to fund and train fighters in Kashmir; to create more divisions and violence between hindus and muslims in India.

But on the other hand a rich pakistan also means more educated and matured people. A mature pakistan means settling matters like kashmir through dialogue. It also means less people to recruit for Jihad in Kashmir (as poor,uneducated and umemployed people wont be available that easily).

Personally, I feel a rich Pakistan will definitely be a threat to India. A richer country doesn't automatically translate into a less religious and matured society. Saudi Arabia is rich but people there are religious. Kashmir issue is a religious issue. Even if Pakistan becomes rich, people and establishment there will not accept giving up fight for kashmir for greater good of the region.
Should India,therefore do everything in its capacity to keep pakistan poor?

Pakistan has way too many people to become rich the natural resources extraction route. If Pakistan has to become rich they have to trade with her neighbors. Pakistan's trade with India and Iran is negligible and shows no sign of changing.

 

[Baby Leone]

A mature pakistan means settling matters like kashmir through dialogue.

for the last decade its Pakistan which wants dialogues on the other hand its India who wants war and terrorism.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Take your time and read this: https://thewire.in/south-asia/interview-imran-khan-nsa-moeed-yusuf-pakistan

I do not even recall a sincere effort from Modi Sarkar to commence talks with Pakistan on the issue of Kashmir - such was the level of effort and publicity put into it from your side.

When former COAS Pervez Musharraf reached out to India for resolution of Kashmir in 2001 (Agra Summit), the entire world learned about this initiative and there were smiles on many faces. Indian HAWKS squandered this opportunity for Indian PM Atal Bihari Vajpayee in the end unfortunately.

When Vajpayee and Musharraf 'Almost Resolved' the Kashmir Dispute - News18

History remembers the Agra Summit as one of the greatest missed opportunities of India-Pakistan relations. Former Pakistan Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri in his book ‘Neither a Hawk nor a Dove’ wrote that the “solution to Kashmir was in the grasp of both governments”.

www.news18.com

You could not get a better initiative then that.

Sorry, man.

I watched that interview. That's the same Pakistanis sticking to UNSC resolution for a plebiscite. Just like you did before art 370 repealing. Nothing much changed apart from you getting a new talking point. But I don't think that's ever possible we are never going to reach a consensus on conducting a plebiscite. On what basis you can ask for a UNSC resolution when you did not even abide by the resolution in the first place?

Modi government has made their efforts, by inviting Pak PM, having a discussion with him behind closed doors, then when he arrived in Pakistan. Restarting talks which was dead since 2008, allowing Pak investigators in an Indian military base to investigate. Modi has done the most since ABV but neither of them deserves any props.

Musharaff was the one single person who scuttled the entire peace talks. Not only his actions resulted in Pakistan losing face, but he also turned the Kargil people against you. Agra summit and resolution of the issue was on papers by that time there has been a deep mistrust in Indian political class against Pakistan and it's intentions.
ABV may have thought it's his opportunity to solve the issue forever, so did a lot of Prime Ministers before him. Bar MMS, who was smart enough to ignore these 'peace offerings'.

Better initiative? The biggest action in India Pak talks has been the signing of the Indus Water Treaty, the most generous water-sharing treaty in the world. Another daft Prime Minister who thought he can have permanent peace by assuaging core issues relating to water security.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

Rich means more intellectual and capable people, Rich means developed defense industry, Rich means more sophisticated weapons, Rich means better quality and accurate weapons, Rich means more weapons in quantity, Rich means dictating others what to do, Rich means no more dialogues with india, Rich means freeing Kashmir through force, Rich means blowing india to kingdom come

 

[CrazyZ]

Pakistan has way too many people to become rich the natural resources extraction route. If Pakistan has to become rich they have to trade with her neighbors. Pakistan's trade with India and Iran is negligible and shows no sign of changing.

Most important neighbor for Pakistan to trade with is China....the world largest consumer market. If Pakistan can invest in mid to high level industries that cater to the Chinese consumer....we can achieve mid income status. Kind of like other parts of Asia did with the USA as the consumption sink. We have no issues holding yuan as reserve in Chinese financial markets and can easily get oil from ME or Russia, or weapons from China or Russia with Yuan's.

 

[Mugwop]

No!
Pakistan has no intentions of dominating Asia or dictating others.

I know I know bharties be like "they will fund more insurgencies in india"
That would be a waste of money since modi is in power.