Opinionated - Pakistan must actively join the war against Russia

[AlKardai]

yes, it is a terrace of (joined-up) 4 houses owned by Leeds Federated, a charity that houses the needy (rent is around a £100 per week most times paid by the council/social security)

100 a week???!!

Holy hell, I'm moving there.
A normal 1 bed flat costs 900-1200 which is double or triple that of this charity house

 

[omegared]

Paksiatn should partner with the US and NATO to fight the Russians.

We have great influence in Central Asia and the soft under belly of Russia.

Turkiye and Pakistan can partner to defeat Russia in Ukraine, Black Sea, Caucuses, Caspian Sea and Central Asia.

Russia needs to be balkanized.

Just supplying ammunitions is not enough. Pakistan needs to fight the Russians by putting the boots on the ground.

Let's light up Chechnya again. Let's show the Russians again how guerilla warfare is fought.

Great Idea, let's launch a holy war against Russia, whats the worst that could happen?
Im sure we can depend on the American's to stand with us, Just like they did with the Soviets in Afghanistan.

 

[doorstar]

100 a week???!!

Holy hell, I'm moving there.
A normal 1 bed flat costs 900-1200 which is double or triple that of this charity house

these are NOT for you, it is for the poor £100 for 4 rooms 2 bathrooms. similar for normal people is £720+ pw

 

[AlKardai]

these are NOT for you, it is for the poor £100 for 4 rooms 2 bathrooms. similar for normal people is £720+ pw

I am poor by the time I've paid my rent bro

 

[ThunderCat]

Stay away from this conflict. Be neutral as may nations are playing their role. We are not part of NATO.

Agreed. But selling weapons to Ukraine at this time is needed to generate much needed revenue. Not because we are necessarily loyal to them.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Ukraine is looking for F-16s.

Pakistan should give PAF F-16s to Ukraine and replace them with F-15EX

 

[KaiserX]

Agreed. But selling weapons to Ukraine at this time is needed to generate much needed revenue. Not because we are necessarily loyal to them.

Why just sell to Ukraine??? Russia needs just as much ammunitions + weaponery.

Would love to see Pakistan sell weapons to both and buy cheap oil/wheat from both as well. Lets take a lesson from the jewish handbooks and profit from both sides!

Pakistan produces soviet era ammunition, NATO standard ammunition, baktar shikans, anzas, Burraq drones, missiles, etc…

Any profits would be reinvested into local industry.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Paksiatn should partner with the US and NATO to fight the Russians.

We have great influence in Central Asia and the soft under belly of Russia.

Turkiye and Pakistan can partner to defeat Russia in Ukraine, Black Sea, Caucuses, Caspian Sea and Central Asia.

Russia needs to be balkanized.

Just supplying ammunitions is not enough. Pakistan needs to fight the Russians by putting the boots on the ground.

Let's light up Chechnya again. Let's show the Russians again how guerilla warfare is fought.

Are you stupid? Why should we care about the Ukraine crisis. If anything we should stay neutral.

 

[ThunderCat]

Why just sell to Ukraine??? Russia needs just as much ammunitions + weaponery.

Would love to see Pakistan sell weapons to both and buy cheap oil/wheat from both as well. Lets take a lesson from the jewish handbooks and profit from both sides!

Pakistan produces soviet era ammunition, NATO standard ammunition, baktar shikans, anzas, Burraq drones, missiles, etc…

Any profits would be reinvested into local industry.

The Russians will not give competition to their Iranian allies whom are somwhat ahead in drone and other conventional weapons technology than Pakistan.

They will prioritize the Iranian market over the Pakistani market.

 

[KaiserX]

The Russians will not give competition to their Iranian allies whom are somwhat ahead in drone and other conventional weapons technology than Pakistan.

They will prioritize the Iranian market over the Pakistani market.

There drone market is so big now that there is room for many players especially Pakistan which has a competitive edge in the drone sphere.

Iran might be a leader in small kamikaze drone but pakistan has advanced MALE altitude drones that can carry out precision strikes/reconaissance missions then return to base to be refueled for reuse. Iranian drones are mostly single use and limited whereby Pakistans focus is using drones to support ground forces.

Iran is also not able to keep up its supply with Russian demand of its kamikaze drones thus Russia is now building a shahed/Geran drone factory but again a drone factory is not built overnight and takes years let alone getting it up to capacity to meet demands.

Pakistan like Iran is one of the last remaining major manufacters of soviet standard ammunitions. Again Russia is using almost 100k artillery+ MRLS a day. And your telling me Pakistan cant easily fill an order for a few million to them???


Pakistan can supply Russia with large quantities of ammunition/drones/missiles. Again the business case is there and easy for everyone to see. Iran supplying Russia or Pakistan supplying Ukraine does not mean Pakistani weapons industry needs to miss out on huge opportunities.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Are you stupid? Why should we care about the Ukraine crisis. If anything we should stay neutral.

US and China are our allies while Russia and India are our enemies.

 

[KaiserX]

US and China are our allies while Russia and India are our enemies.

I would only put China and somewhat the US as ally.

Russia we should maintian good relations to get cheap oil/wheat/energy. When it comes to the war remain neutral but try to supply both sides to make $$$

 

[ThunderCat]

There drone market is so big now that there is room for many players especially Pakistan which has a competitive edge in the drone sphere.

Iran might be a leader in small kamikaze drone but pakistan has advanced MALE altitude drones that can carry out precision strikes/reconaissance missions then return to base to be refueled for reuse. Iranian drones are mostly single use and limited whereby Pakistans focus is using drones to support ground forces.

Iran is also not able to keep up its supply with Russian demand of its kamikaze drones thus Russia is now building a shahed/Geran drone factory but again a drone factory is not built overnight and takes years let alone getting it up to capacity to meet demands.

Pakistan like Iran is one of the last remaining major manufacters of soviet standard ammunitions. Again Russia is using almost 100k artillery+ MRLS a day. And your telling me Pakistan cant easily fill an order for a few million to them???


Pakistan can supply Russia with large quantities of ammunition/drones/missiles. Again the business case is there and easy for everyone to see. Iran supplying Russia or Pakistan supplying Ukraine does not mean Pakistani weapons industry needs to miss out on huge opportunities.

Respectfully, I don't think Soviet era artillery can compete against state-of-the-art NATO weapons. The Russians have no need for them.

Russians will also never prioritize Pakistani equipment over Iranian because of their alliance with Iran. But who knows. Things might change.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

US and China are our allies while Russia and India are our enemies.

I know Russia has long supported India since days of USSR.

We need to do a reset with Russia after the post Cold War.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

I know Russia has long supported India since days of USSR.

We need to do a reset with Russia after the post Cold War.

NATO & China are our allies. We do not need Russia.