Opinionated - I wish Pakistan had a more competent enemy than India

[Aspen]

Sometimes I look at neighboring countries like Iran, Turkey, and China and wish we had real and competent enemies like them. Iran, Turkey, and China are leaders in military innovation because they have to be more competent and shrewd than their enemies which are among the best in the world. Iran takes on Israel with cyberattacks, Turkey targets Russian assets with drones, and China is battling it out with US for control of the world. I wish Pakistan had a more competent enemy so we could innovate a bit more. Unfortunately, India is a paper tiger and as they don't present an actual military threat to Pakistan besides their cancerous ideology, our military has become complacent and cannot innovate like Iran, Turkey, or China as Pakistan lacks a competent enemy like Israel, Russia, or US. Thus Pakistan is at least 20 years way behind likes of Iran, Turkey, and China on pretty much every kind of relevant military technology you can imagine.

Just a few of the technologies Pakistan has missed out on includes:

Cyberattacks (Iran, Israel, North Korea, China, Russia, US)
Drones (Iran, Israel, Turkey, China, US)
Cheap DIY suicide drones (Iran)
Satellites (Iran, Israel, Russia, India, China, US)
Precision cruise missiles (Iran, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Civilian space program (Iran, India, Russia, China, US)
Artificial military islands (Iran, China, US)
Dual use civill/military rockets (Iran, China, Russia, US)
EMP weapons (Iran, China, Russia, US)
Asymmetric decentralized navy (Iran)
Remote control explosive boats (Iran)
Small speedboats (Iran)
EFP armor piercing IED (Iran)
Sea skimming missiles (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Artificial intelligence (Iran, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Proxy warfare (Iran, Israel, Russia, US)
Ballistic missiles (Iran, Israel, India, North Korea, China, Russia, US)
Cryptocurrency (Iran, North Korea, China, Russia)
JF-17 export restrictions
Reverse engineering (Iran, China)
Loitering munitions (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Terrain and topography surveying
SCADA cyberattacks on infrastructure (Iran, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Exportable missiles (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Hypersonic glide vehicle (Iran, China, US)
MIRV research (Iran, China, US)
Underground missile bunkers (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Drones and cyberattacks (Iran, Turkey, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Directed energy weapons (Turkey)
Seizing enemy ships (Iran)
Guaranteed hit smart scope rifles (Israel, US)
Ninja blade missiles (US)

 

[CrazyZ]

Don't be cocky. Always respect your opponent.

 

[El Sidd]

It's all about I-ran

 

[Aspen]

Don't be cocky. Always respect your opponent.

This attitude is the reason Pakistan has gotten so complacent.

If we "respect" our opponent India, then we will always be trying to stay even with a country as incompetent as India, which will make us equally as incompetent. Maybe if we had a real enemy, we would be forced to innovate more, and Pakistan would be more shrewd like Iran, Turkey, and China. Bajwa entering politics is shameful. Instead Pakistan's military has gotten extremely complacent and relaxed, languishing in the dustbin as an afterthought due to the lack of a clear threat or coherent vision requiring military innovation.

Enemy countries will always counter what their enemy does. India is only an ideological threat, evidenced by the fact that IK tweets about RSS every week but never takes any military action against such a threat. Hence Pakistan counters India's ideology but does not do anything else, resulting in military innovation getting ignored and languishing for decades. Pakistan's military will not innovate unless confronted with a more competent enemy than India, but waiting until that time is not smart. Right now, since India is incompetent, Pakistan military has no incentive to innovate which is a big problem for us. Pakistan should have started hitting India with cyberattacks and drones years ago, but we haven't because India hasn't used them against us first, and stupidly we are waiting for them to do it first, so that we can innovate and catch up to them later.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Sometimes I look at neighboring countries like Iran, Turkey, and China and wish we had real and competent enemies like them. Iran, Turkey, and China are leaders in military innovation because they have to be more competent and shrewd than their enemies which are among the best in the world. Iran takes on Israel with cyberattacks, Turkey targets Russian assets with drones, and China is battling it out with US for control of the world. I wish Pakistan had a more competent enemy so we could innovate a bit more. Unfortunately, India is a paper tiger and as they don't present an actual military threat to Pakistan besides their cancerous ideology, our military has become complacent and cannot innovate like Iran, Turkey, or China as Pakistan lacks a competent enemy like Israel, Russia, or US. Thus Pakistan is at least 20 years way behind likes of Iran, Turkey, and China on pretty much every kind of relevant military technology you can imagine.

Just a few of the technologies Pakistan has missed out on includes:

Cyberattacks (Iran, Israel, North Korea, China, Russia, US)
Drones (Iran, Israel, Turkey, China, US)
Cheap DIY suicide drones (Iran)
Satellites (Iran, Israel, Russia, India, China, US)
Precision cruise missiles (Iran, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Civilian space program (Iran, India, Russia, China, US)
Artificial military islands (Iran, China, US)
Dual use civill/military rockets (Iran, China, Russia, US)
EMP weapons (Iran, China, Russia, US)
Asymmetric decentralized navy (Iran)
Remote control explosive boats (Iran)
Small speedboats (Iran)
EFP armor piercing IED (Iran)
Sea skimming missiles (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Artificial intelligence (Iran, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Proxy warfare (Iran, Israel, Russia, US)
Ballistic missiles (Iran, Israel, India, North Korea, China, Russia, US)
Cryptocurrency (Iran, North Korea, China, Russia)
JF-17 export restrictions
Reverse engineering (Iran, China)
Loitering munitions (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Terrain and topography surveying
SCADA cyberattacks on infrastructure (Iran, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Exportable missiles (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Hypersonic glide vehicle (Iran, China, US)
MIRV research (Iran, China, US)
Underground missile bunkers (Iran, Russia, China, US)
Drones and cyberattacks (Iran, Turkey, Israel, Russia, China, US)
Directed energy weapons (Turkey)
Seizing enemy ships (Iran)
Guaranteed hit smart scope rifles (Israel, US)
Ninja blade missiles (US)

Who is stopping you from taking on Iran or even China as an enemy?

 

[Aspen]

Who stopping you from taking on Iran or even China as an enemy?

I knew I was going to get a stupid response from an Indian but this was even stupider than I expected.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I knew I was going to get a stupid response from an Indian but this was even stupider than I expected.

Do you have an answer to my "stupid" question?

 

[Aspen]

Do you have an answer to my "stupid" question?

Better for us to find a competent enemy than make an enemy out of a friend.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Better for us to find a competent enemy than make an enemy out of a friend.

Gernamy was an ally before becoming an enemy.

USSR was an ally before becoming an enemy.

Iran was an ally before becoming an enemy

Afghanistan was an ally before becoming an enemy

China was an ally before becoming an enemy

Turkiye was an ally before becoming an enemy



Countries who play great games invent enemies. If you do not have stomach to make enemies then you are not fit for the great games.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Gernamy was an ally before becoming an enemy.

USSR was an ally before becoming an enemy.

Iran was an ally before becoming an enemy

Afghanistan was an ally before becoming an enemy

China was an ally before becoming an enemy

Turkiye was an ally before becoming an enemy



Countries who play great games invent enemies. If you do not have stomach to make enemies then you are not fit for the great games.

I think your answer Sums it all up for an idiotic question with an worthless shit list. If India had been competent like say South Korea, Pakistan might have become like an NK with generals openly ruling the forte.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I think your answer Sums it all up for an idiotic question with an worthless shit list. If India had been competent like say South Korea, Pakistan might have become like an NK with generals openly ruling the forte.

What is amusing is Pakistan spends 50% of their budget on defence in the name of confronting India and here people are complaining that they need a better enemy.

 

[PakFactor]

What is amusing is Pakistan spends 50% of their budget on defence in the name of confronting India and here people are complaining that they need a better enemy.

Yeah, someone that don't shoot their own helicopter's down..

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Yeah, someone that don't shoot their own helicopter's down..

Arey baba where did I claim that we are great. We are useless people.

You better find a great enemy in China.

Start funding the Uyghurs.

China is surely going to be a worthy enemy that will make Pakistan great.

 

[Aspen]

What is amusing is Pakistan spends 50% of their budget on defence in the name of confronting India and here people are complaining that they need a better enemy.

Military budget efficiency is not a strong point of Pakistan, I will admit that. This is part of the problem with Pakistan's complacency. A stronger enemy would force Pakistan to make military budget more efficient and more potent with same amount of money.

There are much better ways to maximize Pakistan's military budget like cyber, drones, and space but instead it gets blown on useless stuff, so I will concede this point.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Military budget efficiency is not a strong point of Pakistan, I will admit that. This is part of the problem with Pakistan's complacency. A stronger enemy would force Pakistan to make military budget more efficient and more potent with same amount of money.

There are much better ways to maximize Pakistan's military budget like cyber, drones, and space but instead it gets blown on useless stuff, so I will concede this point.

Here are some good options for Pakistan to find a worthy enemy

1) Start funding the Uyghurs against China

2) Start supporting Baloch and Sunni Turks against Iran

3) Kick US/NATO unceremoniously out of Afghanistan

4) Kick Russia out of Central Asia and fund the Chechen and Tatars against Russia

5) Send troops to Palestine and support Hamas against Israel