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Chinese Scientists Invent New Structure to Spur Smaller Chips
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DATE : JUN 04 2019/SOURCE : YICAI
Chinese Scientists Invent New Structure to Spur Smaller Chips
(Yicai Global) June 4 -- A research team from Shanghai's Fudan University has invented a transistor structure that may shrink this type of semiconductor devices by 50 percent. The new technology could make electronic gadgets smaller, lighter, and more powerful.
Researchers were observing the surface of a silicon wafer. The new invention was published in Nature Publishing Group's science journal Nature Nanotechnology.
Transistors are used to amplify or switch electronic signals and electrical power.
Scientists were cleaning a silicon wafer in the lab.
Editor: Emmi Laine
https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/chinese-scientists-invent-new-structure-to-spur-smaller-chips
@qwerrty , @cirr
Such new structures keep getting invented regularly.
These are purely for research purposes, not industry related, or immediately transferrable. Otherwise China would not have been in such a bad shape.
Yes. Compared to who? Are we really in a bad shape? You close us and we still can produce all the chips we need although not at the latest node. That's more for commercial purposes that require latest node. Militarily, we are self sufficient unlike some other country. LolIt depends which country China is being compared with.
For those that are wondering, the Hygon 7185 is a 32 core server CPU. 2.0 GHz. TDP 180W. EPYC 7551 equivalent.
Yes, a big thank you to AMD for transferring the x86 ISA and Zen core into China for a measly $293 million and some royalties.
SMIC To Start 14nm Mass Production in H1 2019
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13941/smics-14-nm-mass-production-in-1h-2019
AMD has already said that it will no longer transfer its IP and core designs to its Chinese venture.
So basically this whole AMD Chinese venture which was formed when US-China relations were decent, has now become a still born.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-zen-china-x86-ip-license,39573.html
Also, why does this thread have the name "China chipping away to semiconductor dominance?"
China is not even at the tier 2 level of semiconductor expertise, forget about dominance.
No worries Buss, China will implode, all our technologies will be gone and we will be the same like India. =). If you don't like the title, you can always leave, but too much good news attract bees right? We develop 3nm transistors, you say it's useless, we develop quantum chips, it's useless, we develop EUV equipment, it's useless, so where is India in this regard? ZEROOOOOOAMD has already said that it will no longer transfer its IP and core designs to its Chinese venture.
So basically this whole AMD Chinese venture which was formed when US-China relations were decent, has now become a still born.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-zen-china-x86-ip-license,39573.html
Also, why does this thread have the name "China chipping away to semiconductor dominance?"
China is not even at the tier 2 level of semiconductor expertise, forget about dominance.
No worries Buss, China will implode, all our technologies will be gone and we will be the same like India. =). If you don't like the title, you can always leave, but too much good news attract bees right? We develop 3nm transistors, you say it's useless, we develop quantum chips, it's useless, we develop EUV equipment, it's useless, so where is India in this regard? ZEROOOOOO
We are used to being bashed, every bash makes China stronger, we are richer now 5x your ocuntry, we are well fed, we clean up out country, we build world class infrastructure, we have a decent defence industry. All of this are things you can only dream of..... Am I proud and should I be proud, yes of course. But we will still continue working hard. So please Buss, continue your tirade of saying everything China does is useless, we willbe beaten, it doesn't matter, we will still not give up. That's why we are theonly real rival to US and you are just another US poodle.
No worries Buss, China will implode, all our technologies will be gone and we will be the same like India. =). If you don't like the title, you can always leave, but too much good news attract bees right?
China is going to dominate the semiconductor industry in a couple of years
AMD has already said that it will no longer transfer its IP and core designs to its Chinese venture.
So basically this whole AMD Chinese venture which was formed when US-China relations were decent, has now become a still born.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-zen-china-x86-ip-license,39573.html
Nobody said Dhyana is the ANSWER to China's problem, it's not even using our own architecture like Shenwei or Godson. You are the one jumping up and done whenever we achieve something comparable of better than the west. Check the specs of that chip and tell me if it isn't impressive. That's something India can never achieve.=)You keep drawing strawmans over strawmans.
My reply was to the person who somehow was trying to display as if Dhyana was an answer to China's problems, which it is not.
Everything starts from the lab, so is India having any 3nm transistor? or a quantum chip? That's why the title of this thread is 'chipping away' we are in the race, to compete, we might be behind in some, but we are certainly ahead in some too. You are as if trying really hard to convince us we are not in the race, on the contrary, the US don't think so. Hell, a poor commie chinky country is now their biggest rival. We didn't announce it like bragging Indians, they saw our progress and felt threatened.Also, 3 nm transistors.. only research lab based. People in many labs have done this.
Quantum chips? Guess what? The team for Google is leading the area of quantum chips.
Key technologies of extreme ultraviolet lithography has past the final acceptanceEUV equipment? There is only one vendor in the world ASML. Just claiming that you did something doesn't make it true. You need to prove it by making it commercially available and in use.
NOBODY here said that, we are aiming to achieve that, you are the ONE SAYING WE CLAIM THIS. Did we? We are just humble hardworking Chinese. =)Also, I am not against facts. I am against this notion that some people here have that you have somehow reached the level of US or can challenge the US, which is totally untrue. In fact, my comments are actually more helpful to you than the other way around.
US spank us? And you think they are not suffering? Trade war goes both ways bhai, stop having this colonial mentality. No wonder Modi bends over so quickly when US asks him too. Cowardice country of braggarts! They deny us products, we just create it on our own, you can claim we can't do it, but what has history taught you? We plan, work hard, invest, we will achieve our goals. IF you don't try and talk of failure like Indians, you will forever be India.I am not saying you will implode or lose all your tech.
You can't lose tech that you don't even have.
This thread's title is a blind fanboy's idiotic dream.
Now China is being spanked by the US and I thought maybe you will NOW see the reality. .
You are the one not seeing the reality here. The results of our hard work is impressive, you know it. But yet you still dismiss it due to the envy. if India did what we did, you would have ejaculated in your pants.A person who can't see the reality, will definitely commit mistakes and disasters.
Okay keep the thread title then. Right now you are not even in the league of Korea or Japan, leave alone the US.