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Opinion: Imran Khan overthrown because of collision with doctrine of Military Establishment?

It was bound to happen!

There were multiple shut-up calls sent to IK for not praising India's foreign policy publicly, but he wasn't listening and deliberately avoiding it. You can not do this. He directly collided with the pivot of Pakistan's non-kinetic strategic policies. IK stepped outside the boundary, which was disastrous at all levels. He was capturing the attention of the Indian establishment and govt corridors.

Indian mainstream media was covering IK since day one but once he starts praising India's foreign policy, there was an unexpected sudden change in the entire Indian media coverage and their narrative. Certainly, it was an expected move obviously. As of now, the Indian fascist regime has already built favorable grounds with respect to Kashmir FP (by utilizing Khan's recent remarks) and you will see this in the upcoming general elections.

Rationally, we are aligned with the western establishment and their policies since the partition, however, Pakistan's military always stands like a fireball when it comes to their defined doctrine. They won't tolerate, and won’t compromise if you directly interfere in their policies regarding India. For the west, that's completely acceptable if they really need Pakistan’s irrational support. No one can force Pakistan's military to accept Indian hegemony in the region.

Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them. That was an unintelligent, and brainless approach on IK's part. Consequently, that was enough reason to thrash IK from the power without wasting any time. NS tried that twice, and both times he was thrashed by the powers'.

Everyone should understand that there is a reason behind the existence of Pakistan, there is a reason for having armed forces and there are enough reasons for having anti-Indian doctrine and vice-versa.

Over!

PS: I know what Quaid said, I know all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM bla bla bla ... in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences. You are not a traitor if you praise your enemy's independent foreign policies but here, our govt works under extreme pressure and hostality.
Based on your opinion, heres what i got to say. If thats the case ask Bajwa to grow some balls and do the same with Maryam and his dakoo father, where is bajwas gairat when they are roaming freely and openly spewing venom against army and establishment, where is the line for them.
Everyone here respects the army but whats wrong is wrong, its our right to raise questions its our constitutional right.
Any countries army has no right to make state policies, the people do. Take away that right and we are living under a silent dictatorship.

Over and out!
 
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It was bound to happen!

There were multiple shut-up calls sent to IK for not praising India's foreign policy publicly, but he wasn't listening and deliberately avoiding it. You can not do this. He directly collided with the pivot of Pakistan's non-kinetic strategic policies. IK stepped outside the boundary, which was disastrous at all levels. He was capturing the attention of the Indian establishment and govt corridors.

Indian mainstream media was covering IK since day one but once he starts praising India's foreign policy, there was an unexpected sudden change in the entire Indian media coverage, their narrative and tone. Certainly, it was an expected. As of now, the Indian fascist regime has already built favorable grounds with respect to Kashmir FP (by utilizing Khan's recent remarks) and you will see this in the upcoming general elections.

Rationally, we are aligned with the western establishment and their policies since the partition, however, Pakistan's military always stands like a fireball when it comes to their defined doctrine. They won't tolerate, and won’t compromise if you directly interfere in their policies regarding India. For the west, that's completely acceptable if they really need Pakistan’s irrational support. No one can force Pakistan's military to accept Indian hegemony in the region.

Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them. That was an unintelligent, and brainless approach on IK's part. Consequently, that was enough reason to thrash IK from the power without wasting any time. NS tried that twice, and both times he was thrashed by the powers'.

Everyone should understand that there is a reason behind the existence of Pakistan, there is a reason for having armed forces and there are enough reasons for having anti-Indian doctrine -- vice-versa.

What Quaid said, all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM and all that, in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences. IK absolutely did the right thing. Praising someone's independent policy won't make you a traitor however, in reality, our govt(s) are working under extreme pressure and hostility.
Imran Khan was not praising India, he was telling to the world if India does not follow your dictation and do whatever they want including having huge trade with Russia, which include defence and oil, why is the world only targeting Pakistan for having an independent foreign policy, the west was treating Pakistan like slaves which may be acceptable to those who removed him but not to Imran Khan and people of Pakistan.
He was also telling our establishment that look at our enemies India, who you think are your rivals, they are not afraid of US or EU and don't take any dictation, then why are you.
 
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You're absolutely RIGHT but again, its all in the books, in reality, Pakistan's military establishment owns the country and drives its foreign policy thats what it is whether you like it or not.
... Can't really argue against the truth. Sadly
When Jinnah made this comment he was talking about non-corrupt civilians.
He clearly understood the importance of the armed forces as an institution in Pakistan.
If you could look up a bit of history, you would understand that British Indian army was disproportionately staffed by Muslims at around 40%, while pathan and Punjab made about 60% of its strength at a time.
While the Civil services of India was dominated by Hindus.
So when partition happened, Pakistan inherited a strong armed forces institutions and a joke of a democratic and civil institution. Quaid very well knew, the inevitable. Sadly he died before he could do much
 
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IK got a chance and he miserably failed!
That is one of my biggest criticism on IK. He failed to get these corrupt people behind bars as government prosecution was not able to prove anything against them. The prosecution itself needs a long overdue overhaul but ultimately the buck stops at IK
 
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Khan’s anonymous intervention into the domain that was pre-established by Pakistan’s powerful military establishment was completely unacceptable to them.
That position from the military, if true, is completely unacceptable.

The Army does not have a monopoly or control over foreign policy, the elected government does.

If this was a reason behind the Army leadership conspiring with the PDM to overthrow the PTI government, then that still amounts to treason and a betrayal of Pakistan.

Your comment below is absolutely correct and paints an unfortunate picture of the state of affairs in Pakistan and one institution's monopoly over the system. Even with his flaws, Imran Khan's honesty, patriotism and desire to improve the country was never in doubt. He was as close to perfect as we could hope for to FINALLY end the monopoly of the military over the country, and sadly the short sighted policies of the leadership of that institution have severely damaged the chance for Pakistan to finally change the system.

What Quaid said, all good captions and quotes, who should run the foreign policy, Army should be under the command of PM and all that, in reality, Pak military owns the country and they are the ones who drive the state policy whether you like it or not. Once you deviate from it, you will face the consequences. IK absolutely did the right thing. Praising someone's independent policy won't make you a traitor however, in reality, our govt(s) are working under extreme pressure and hostility.
 
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That position from the military, if true, is completely unacceptable.

The Army does not have a monopoly or control over foreign policy, the elected government does.

If this was a reason behind the Army leadership conspiring with the PDM to overthrow the PTI government, then that still amounts to treason and a betrayal of Pakistan.

What do you think, I need to know your view regarding who controls Pakistan's FP? just leave kya hona chahyee kya nahe...
 
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New truck ke batti after the other one about this being done to trap Nawaz Sharif :lol:

The timing absolutely doesn't match. IK started prasing India's foreign policy well after all the buying of members and making BAP leave the govt. had been done. Lets not even go into the meetings that had taken place between SS and establishment way before this.

Wait for another surprise before elections. I just saw a report on ARY where "common citizens" demanded the return of Altaf Hussain.
 
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So IK got booted because he praised Indias foreign policy, just for that?
So the policy makers got their feelings hurt? Even though they have a freehand on Pakistans policy?
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"YOU DO NOT MAKE THE NATIONAL POLICY"

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Gore badashah nai sirf rangh badaldi

everybody should wear t shirt with that photo dialogue in pakistan so bajwa can drink more whiskey as his nerves rattle.
 
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