Opinion: F-16 Block 70 Super Viper is the Best Option for PAF

[Furqan Sarwar]

Yes, it might. If you have a more strong Lobby in US by any chance.......

 

[Super Falcon]

Now it's no secret, the Pakistan Air Force is in dire need of some new Aircraft. Things haven't been going very well as of late, here is a quick update on the situation.
IAF:
36-Rafale's
270-Super Sukhoi 30's
60-MiG 29UPG's
40-Updated Mirage 2000's

Meanwhile in Pakistan
74-F-16's (18 F-16C/D Block-52+, 45 F-16A/B Block-15 MLU, and 13 F-16A/B Block-15 ADF)
60-JF-17's Block 2 (Block 3 in development)
The rest of our Aircraft our mostly useless (and should had been retired a while back)

So things aren't going as lovely as we would like for it to be. Now Pakistan still has a while before it will need to induct a 5th gen fighter (post 2025), almost a decade from now. There is no secret that it needs a current gen platform to fill the gaps. India ordering 36 Rafales doesn't help the situation at all. There has been alot of discussion on this forum that the PAF is looking for a new fighter (of the current generation) and media reports of Pakistani interest in these fighters (like the Su-35).

Now the Eurofighter and Rafale are pretty much off the table due to costs. The Gripen is too similar to JF-17. The J-10 has not been of liking to our Air Marshals. The Su-35 is a more likely contender though its a gamble.

Bro, the only most ideal option is the F-16 SV or Block 70. The Indians already rejected the aircraft and why the PAF didn't capitalize is beyond me. The F-16 is the most advanced one out there. Probably just as good if not better then the Rafale and Eurofighter. A familiar platform and much more cost effective then the other options. Now your probably being like "the US didn't want to sell us the Block 52 and you talking about the Block 70, LOL Hassan is a dumbass." Now you are correct to an extent, but you need to remember the US was willing to sell the aircraft IF we could cover the funds ourselves which apparently we couldn't.
You can thank this handsome guy for that:
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Now back to the F-16 Block 70, if we order lets say 1 or 2 squadrons and upgrade the other 4 to Block 70 as well. The holy cow, we got 6 high quality squadrons flanked by a lot of JF-17's. Equip those with the AIM-120D and AIM9X and boom, we got power in the sky until 2030. Now really this is the only feasible option that plays in our favour. The case for any other aircraft is too weak, i'm not convinced. Whether you would believe me or not this could have been a very feasible option.

But the reason we aren't getting more F-16's, let alone the Super Viper. It's because of the apparent case of mental retardation that our foreign policy makers suffer from. (And this is excluding us that Hussain Huqqani guy).
Just look at this crap:
http://www.firstpost.com/world/f16-us-pakistan-sartaj-aziz-nawaz-sharif-2761826.html
Hand over the jets and pay for them too
This is what it literally sounds like, it's just not reasonable

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-tells-pakistan-to-fund-f-16-fighter-jets-2016-5
US tells Pakistan it will have to fund F-16 fighter jets itself
Have things gotten this sad?

http://www.dawn.com/news/1256000
Pakistan will get jets from elsewhere if F-16 funding not arranged, Aziz cautions US
I don't think threatening is a good idea....

They didn't fund the purchase, are we getting jets elsewhere or what????

Now I will say, the US should not put conditions on this deal. But if they are paying for it then it's fair. If Pakistan pays for the jets on their own then there will be no "strings attached". All i'm saying is with better lobbyists and actual CASH things can go better. And even a F-16 Block 70 deal would be possible.

WAIT, whats this im hearing
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...in-us-for-f-16s-drone-technology-to-pakistan/
Zardari lobbying in US for F-16s, drone technology to Pakistan
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LOL
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What you think with 10000 posts we are all idiots not considered the option

Probleum is with PAF even if we get F 16 block 70 USA has history of blocking spares etc of F 16 and it's misdiles too and now usa in honeymoon with India over south China issue we are putting axe on our own foot if we buy these jets

What guaranteed you have that in war against india USA backs our needs for weapons and top of it whatever they are given are not underperform in war

Secondly PAF became a one dimensional force we don't have A factor jet in airforce all of them single engine Multirole

We need air superiority fighter jet which gives control of our air space in our hands and when needed penetrate deep inside enemy territory

F 16 is good for dog fighting and ground assault

But in air war you need air specialist heavy weight like F 15 SU 35

if F 16 is that good why USA made F 15

Why Israel south Korea Japan have both F 16 and F 15 combo

It's all about balance our PAF needs have weight like SU 35 or Eurofighter funds are not an issue issue is will

PAF is weakest since 2010 in its history

We need better firepower in air

We don't stand any chance with Multirole jets anymore we need to change our minds twin engine jets are future

F 16 can't carry naval war and it's heavy arsenal so our seas are at risk we need twin engine jets

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

Is the J-31 any good?

I have very less knowledge about FIghter jets but I think J-31 would be an excellent platform but only to counter enemies 4.5 ++ gen jets or 5 gen jets , Abhe jo PAF ka hal hai to agr J-31 induct kia to har Indian jet ko j-31 sambhal raha hoga

 

[TOPGUN]

We can't get 8 f-16's out of US and you want us to dream about block 70's ? common please don't waste thread space like this wake up.

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

Block 70 would be awesome but phir wahi conditions ajaeinge , again strings attached and in case of war no spares . Faida block 70 ka ?

 

[Hassan Guy]

We can't get 8 f-16's out of US and you want us to dream about block 70's ? common please don't waste thread space like this wake up.

if only people read the whole post and not just the title

Block 70 would be awesome but phir wahi conditions ajaeinge , again strings attached and in case of war no spares . Faida block 70 ka ?

Donald trump may become president maybe we can get along with him

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

if only people read the whole post and not just the title


Donald trump may become president maybe we can get along with him

Donald trump to Pakistan ko block 15 na dai ! He is pro-Indian India nae aik ishara daina hai aur hamare aid , spare , sab kuch band , F-16 block 70 ka faida ?

 

[Kompromat]

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