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Money.............

So you're telling me that if Pakistan was invaded by another country, it would not have the money to fight a full scale war??

I bet it would be but troops have to man the border--defend it, you can't divert you're whole army to one location. Plus more troops means more supplies will be needed, more trucks, more everything; bigger logistics operation.

There are 550,000 active troops in the force. Committing 150,00 of these to fight a war to claim back lost territory is just a small percentage.

And what about the more supplies? Of course they will be required, and more tanks too and more gunships if they are there. How can there not be enough funding during war time to be able to fight a war? You don't win wars by skirmishes.
 
There are 550,000 active troops in the force. Committing 150,00 of these to fight a war to claim back lost territory is just a small percentage.

And what about the more supplies? Of course they will be required, and more tanks too and more gunships if they are there. How can there not be enough funding during war time to be able to fight a war? You don't win wars by skirmishes.

Meh... the army knows what it's doing. There are limitations when your launching operations and they're are a ton of factors in play.
 
30,000 troops are involved in this operation. Whats stopping PA sending in another 100,000 and go for full ground invasion? Wouldn't that be quicker?

Who will take care of eastern border then? PAF have done more than 60% of their job by Airstrikes. NW is almost clear. Now they are planning to send back to the IDPs.
 
There are 550,000 active troops in the force. Committing 150,00 of these to fight a war to claim back lost territory is just a small percentage.
There are operations going on in Khyber agency
Plus troops are stationed in other tribal areas to consolidate gains there
You just can't pull troops out from South Waziristan,Bajaur,Orakzai or even Malakand agency
They all share a border with Afghanistan and given the chance militants will spill into those areas
Plus their is a small matter of the Indian border
 
30,000 troops are involved in this operation. Whats stopping PA sending in another 100,000 and go for full ground invasion? Wouldn't that be quicker?
30,000 were stationed in NW before zarb-e-azab, my guess is that more than 60 thousands soldiers are participating in zarb-e-azab
 
92 suspected militants killed in strikes - Pakistan - DAWN.COM - 92 suspected militants killed in strikes - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

When will the journalist be allowed to access the area where operation is being conducted? Isn't it better for Pak army to release videos and pictures of the operation or they afraid it can have a negative impact?

So they can be used for propaganda purposes by TTP?
Media has been allowed to access the theater a number of times, even a UN delegation visited recently.

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I didn't think about the propaganda aspect but it would be nice to see Pak military in action. I remember there was a video released during the previous operation of army helo blowing terrorist hideouts. I haven't come across anything similar for the current operation. Thanks for the reply..
 
Pakistanis fleeing military offensive against Taliban land in volatile Afghan region

Tens of thousands of Pakistanis have sought shelter at a sprawling refugee camp in a volatile region of Afghanistan after crossing the mountainous border to escape a military onslaught against insurgents.

For decades Afghans have fled into Pakistan to escape war and upheaval, but in recent months the tide has reversed, with some 60,000 Pakistanis — more than half of them children — taking refuge in the Gulan camp, some 20km from the border in the restive Khost province.

“We knew the military operations would last a long time once they started,” said Malik Omardin, a tribal elder who came from Dattakhel area in North Waziristan. “It’s a mountainous area and the insurgents are very strong on their own territory, so the government will have a hard time finding and destroying the Taliban.”

More than 210,000 Pakistanis have crossed into Afghanistan from the neighbouring North Waziristan since the Pakistani military launched a long-awaited offensive in June against Taliban and other militants, who have long used the lawless tribal region as a launch-pad for attacks in both countries. Eastern Afghanistan is an unlikely refuge. Khost and neighbouring Paktika, where most of the refugees have sought shelter, are among the most dangerous provinces in the country. Local security forces have struggled to combat the Taliban following the withdrawal of US and Nato forces, and the insurgents are expected to launch a fresh offensive in the spring. On the edge of the camp, mine removers in pale blue body armour scan the dusty ground for ordnance left over from decades of war.

But inside, local traders have set up stalls selling fresh produce, giving the camp an air of permanence. And the Pakistanis say they have been welcomed by local Afghans, many of whom had found shelter on the other side of the border in past conflicts.

The Pakistan Army launched Operation Zarb-i-Azb in North Waziristan last June after a militant attack on Karachi’s international airport.

The government warned residents to flee, and some 93,000 families have been displaced inside Pakistan.

The Pakistani military says it has killed hundreds of militants, but journalists are barred from the region so it is not possible to verify the claim.

A parallel offensive is taking place in the neighbouring Khyber tribal region to pursue militants fleeing North Waziristan. The conflict goes back more than a decade, with the Pakistani government carrying out sporadic assaults on insurgents and US drones targeting them from the air.

The militants respond by attacking security forces and residents accused of spying on them, leaving communities gripped by fear.

“The Taliban come at night to place bombs on the roads, which explode and kill soldiers as well as local people, so then the government comes in to hit them back,” said Shir Azia, a tribal elder from Miramshah, the administrative headquarters of North Waziristan. “We don’t care whether it is the government or the Taliban in control, we just want to live in peace,” he said. “We have lost everything because of the fighting.”

UN agencies are working closely with provincial authorities to provide shelter, food, water, health facilities and schooling for the refugees. Recent arrivals include a high number of households headed by women as men seek work elsewhere — a normal development in refugee communities as resources run low.

Bo Schack, the UN refugee agency’s director in Afghanistan, said he did not expect the flow of refugees to stop any time soon. More than 40,000 families, averaging 7.5 people, have crossed into Afghanistan, he said.

Children account for 58 per cent of the Gulan camp’s population. Initial concerns that militants could use the flow of displaced people as cover to sneak across the border have eased. “Our firm impression is that those we are supporting are civilians,” Mr Schack said.

However, diplomats and others familiar with the situation on the border have said they believe there has been a spillover of insurgents fleeing the Pakistani offensive into Afghanistan. “It is inevitable and unavoidable that militants are coming in this direction, and there will be problems for the Afghan authorities as a result,” said one Western diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to discuss the matter publicly.

The camp bristles with weapons and armoured vehicles, as Afghan police try to keep the peace, ensuring orderly queues at water trucks and registration desks.

In classrooms erected on the edge of land recently cleared of mines, children learn English by rote chanting. Outside, new arrivals aged between three and 10 years old squat patiently as they wait for their classes to begin.

A plainclothes policeman paces nearby with an automatic rifle slung over his shoulder. Ten-year-old Hayatullah Khan said he arrived at Gulan two months ago with his parents and four brothers. He misses his toy car, which he had to leave behind.

“We are not happy here,” he said after class. “We want our homes. We have left behind our madressahs and schools. We have come here with nothing.

Published in Dawn January 31st, 2015

Pakistanis fleeing military offensive against Taliban land in volatile Afghan region - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
 
guys i have seen a latest video and my bloood is boiling with anger
in the video afghan national army has arrested few pakistani non regular para military personal and they have beaten them like animals and filming it with mobile n laughing it

this is height of cowardice
that first you capture few non regular soldiers
than more than hundred of you beat four five of them and film it with camera and laugh like a wild animal
in which culture this is allowed??? deliberately hundred beating few and filming it only to humiliate Pakistan
this just shows how much they hate pakistan

ANA is our biggest enemy along with india n raw
Pakistan army n foreign ministry must raised the issue with ghani govt at diplomatic level and demand prompt investigation
or deliver the favour back

i cant post video here because it is against the rules
its not graphic but surely a very disturbing video indeed
 
guys i have seen a latest video and my bloood is boiling with anger
in the video afghan national army has arrested few pakistani non regular para military personal and they have beaten them like animals and filming it with mobile n laughing it

this is height of cowardice
that first you capture few non regular soldiers
than more than hundred of you beat four five of them and film it with camera and laugh like a wild animal
in which culture this is allowed??? deliberately hundred beating few and filming it only to humiliate Pakistan
this just shows how much they hate pakistan

ANA is our biggest enemy along with india n raw
Pakistan army n foreign ministry must raised the issue with ghani govt at diplomatic level and demand prompt investigation
or deliver the favour back

i cant post video here because it is against the rules
its not graphic but surely a very disturbing video indeed

Post the link. How did they get arrested?
 

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