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TTP commander Gul Hasan Afghani who was killed in clashes with Pakistan Army in Boya area of NWA.

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20 suspected militants were killed and 5 hideouts were destroyed in fresh air strikes in Datta Khel area of North Waziristan.
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!
 
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!

Go **** youself
 
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!
pakistan's media is controlled by their army...
 
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!
Suspected Militants.
 
Go **** youself

what the **** is your problem man?? @Solomon2 was right.... with much better technology, intel network and capability americans can't avoid the civilins casualty, then how a pak F-16 can do that?? drones operated by US is known for its higher accuracy. USAF, CIA use drones because of the accuracy of drones are very much better that f-16. and hellfire is better accurate than a laser guided bombs used by pakistan.. then how did PAF f-16 manage to avoid the civilian casualties?... even with a single strike how did pak AF manage to kill large number of terrorist without collateral damage?? how the same task the USAF cannot do is done by pak f-16 with inferior weapons?? how did a large group of terrorists killed in one airstrike?? are those terrorists living in a single building??... a human being with common sense can understand that pakistani military is hiding the civilins casualties and all those killed by PAF are not terrorists...
 
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!
Well, its a war and information coming out of a war zone is mostly controlled by the army. There is a reason, every update about killed militants in Pakistani newspaper carries the below disclaimer

"These claims, however, could not be independently verified as journalists have limited access to the restive tribal agency."

what the **** is your problem man?? @Solomon2 was right.... with much better technology, intel network and capability americans can't avoid the civilins casualty, then how a pak F-16 can do that?? drones operated by US is known for its higher accuracy. USAF, CIA use drones because of the accuracy of drones are very much better that f-16. and hellfire is better accurate than a laser guided bombs used by pakistan.. then how did PAF f-16 manage to avoid the civilian casualties?... even with a single strike how did pak AF manage to kill large number of terrorist without collateral damage?? how the same task the USAF cannot do is done by pak f-16 with inferior weapons?? how did a large group of terrorists killed in one airstrike?? are those terrorists living in a single building??... a human being with common sense can understand that pakistani military is hiding the civilins casualties and all those killed by PAF are not terrorists...
PAF pilots are better than USAF pilots
 
with much better technology, intel network and capability americans can't avoid the civilins casualty, then how a pak F-16 can do that??

Maybe because the US doesn't evacuate a million people from a large swathe of land in a process that takes 3 weeks and goes in for quick action based on real time intel.

There's a difference b/w real time intel and intel which is gathered over a period of a few days or weeks, and in some cases even months.

It isn't really rocket science.

When 90% of the population is evacuated, chances are pretty low of hitting a civilian in an air strike or Army op.
 
what the **** is your problem man?? @Solomon2 was right.... with much better technology, intel network and capability americans can't avoid the civilins casualty, then how a pak F-16 can do that?? drones operated by US is known for its higher accuracy. USAF, CIA use drones because of the accuracy of drones are very much better that f-16. and hellfire is better accurate than a laser guided bombs used by pakistan.. then how did PAF f-16 manage to avoid the civilian casualties?... even with a single strike how did pak AF manage to kill large number of terrorist without collateral damage?? how the same task the USAF cannot do is done by pak f-16 with inferior weapons?? how did a large group of terrorists killed in one airstrike?? are those terrorists living in a single building??... a human being with common sense can understand that pakistani military is hiding the civilins casualties and all those killed by PAF are not terrorists...

collective butt hurt for enemies of Pakistan ... ahahaha
basically your chutars are hurting that Pakistan has managed to turn the corner
your hope that Pakistan will collapse through your shenanigans via afghanistan has all but evaporated.
 
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!

Did you by any chance, miss the report of 1 million civilians leaving the area before the start of Op?

Just asking out curiosity, were you by any chance high on bong and weed those days ?
Well, its a war and information coming out of a war zone is mostly controlled by the army. There is a reason, every update about killed militants in Pakistani newspaper carries the below disclaimer

"These claims, however, could not be independently verified as journalists have limited access to the restive tribal agency."


PAF pilots are better than USAF pilots


Flying at an altitude of 25,000 feet, the images taken from a C-130 aircraft are not as good as those from CIA-operated pilotless drones.

But these indigenously modified transport planes equipped with the day/night Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) system provide F-16s with reasonably good images and the correct coordinates to spot and strike a target with laser-guided precision bombs and eliminate it.


“No one, let alone those being targeted themselves, would know that they are being watched and monitored,” a security official remarked, looking at images showing a group of men darting out of a compound and scurrying to another in a mountainous terrain in North Waziristan.

The images were taken from a C-130; soon F-16s would roar into the sky to strike the target.
The Pakistan Air Force has spearheaded the campaign in Operation Zarb-i-Azb, pounding suspected militants’ hideouts in what until recently was the epicentre of terrorism in Pakistan as the military moved its infantry and mechanised forces to clear and hold a region where the state until June 15 enjoyed little to no authority.

Three months into the military operation, the military says it has cleared more than 80pc of the territory in North Waziristan including its regional headquarters of Miramshah, its now ruined sub-district Mirali and a communication line spreading over 80 kilometres up to Dattakhel.

As things stand, the military is now in Dattakhel, 35km west of Miramshah, consolidating its position and working out plans for the tough fight ahead in the densely forested Shawal Valley, facing occasional rocket and mortar fire from militants.

North Waziristan operation — daunting challenge ahead - Pakistan - DAWN.COM


what the **** is your problem man?? @Solomon2 was right.... with much better technology, intel network and capability americans can't avoid the civilins casualty, then how a pak F-16 can do that?? drones operated by US is known for its higher accuracy. USAF, CIA use drones because of the accuracy of drones are very much better that f-16. and hellfire is better accurate than a laser guided bombs used by pakistan.. then how did PAF f-16 manage to avoid the civilian casualties?... even with a single strike how did pak AF manage to kill large number of terrorist without collateral damage?? how the same task the USAF cannot do is done by pak f-16 with inferior weapons?? how did a large group of terrorists killed in one airstrike?? are those terrorists living in a single building??... a human being with common sense can understand that pakistani military is hiding the civilins casualties and all those killed by PAF are not terrorists...

Did you have an iota of sense that When US military strikes are conducted there are hordes of civilian living aroudn that particular target. Are there any civilians in N.Waziristan agency??

Do you understand, it's just not 1 building is hit in such bombing runs but multiple ?

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On October 11, 2009 the army pinpointed 110 targets, eventually rising to 150, as part of its Operation Rah-e-Nijat ('Path to Salvation') which would commence on October 17. The South Waziristan operation would be tricky as there were thousands of militants occupying strategic locations. It was those concentrations that would be targeted.

ACM Suleman explained: "We photographed the entire South Waziristan region; we found militants were waiting for the army. "They set up pickets and bunkers in the mountain sides in readiness for the troops. We saw all this when we checked the area using DB-110s. It meant that when the army moved in they found little resistance. In previous campaigns the army had launched ops in SWA but suffered high casualties — that didn't happen this time. In the end we struck 220 targets in the six-day window

As ACM Suleman explained to the author: "We had recce- configured Mirages but it was the old equipment, which included the LORAP [long-range aerial photography] pod and would often take 24 hours to prepare one sheet of imagery. It wasn't acceptable in a war that moved as quickly as this." So the US Government decided to expedite the pace of delivery of Goodrich DB-110 reconnaissance systems already ordered by the PAF, which eventually arrived in January 2009. The air force was then able to escalate operations in its fight against the militantsFor two days PAF bombs targeted the militants in a bid to 'soften them up' before troops moved in to reclaim the territory. Before the helicopters could fly into the Landing Zones, the area was again photographed by PAF DB-110-equipped F-16s. From the imagery, several isolated structures were identified that could have housed militants armed with rocket-propelled grenades. These were destroyed before the helicopters were cleared into the HLZs. ACM Suleman clarified: "These buildings didn't just collapse, they exploded — proof enough there were weapons caches and ammunition inside

Excerpts from Alan Warnes article in Air international-2012

PAF targeting hideouts of militants in Swat

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Extra footage, Strikes carried out in daylight. Youtube video

 
Interesting how there are never, ever, any civilian casualties reported in these operations. Correction: not just none reported, but no civilian casualties at all. Apparently the militants never take hostages, are never attacked in civilian homes and schools with civilians inside, and never travel together with their families. And those manning Pakistan's F-16s and Cobras never make mistakes, either!

You've missed alot, Didn't you? lol
Well, Its not always late to read the past...
 
PAF pilots are better than USAF pilots

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Maybe because the US doesn't evacuate a million people from a large swathe of land in a process that takes 3 weeks and goes in for quick action based on real time intel.

There's a difference b/w real time intel and intel which is gathered over a period of a few days or weeks, and in some cases even months.

It isn't really rocket science.

When 90% of the population is evacuated, chances are pretty low of hitting a civilian in an air strike or Army op.

and you think those militants will stay and wait for airstrike to come?? this is not a conventional war.. insurgency is not a conventional war to separate militants from civilins... bro, US have more intelligence network that ISI in those areas.. with more technical and financial capability CIA can even lesion to the conservation of militants in real time and those drones provide a real time battlefield surveillance to CIA. your military equipments are USA made one... they only provide others inferior weapons that their model. your military in ISI is trained by americans.. so don't think that you are better than them.

collective butt hurt for enemies of Pakistan ... ahahaha
basically your chutars are hurting that Pakistan has managed to turn the corner
your hope that Pakistan will collapse through your shenanigans via afghanistan has all but evaporated.

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