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Ummm, I've been to seminars by reputable UCLA scholars and others dating back to 2002, when they tried to visit and first their cameras were taken and then at Sri Nagar, they were escorted by the IA, kept there for a day and send back. This place ALWAYS has a blackout of Media. As one of my Kashmiri friend here says, the only time you see a camera from distant is when they are filming a Bollywood movie with hundreds of troops around that are not shown on the camera.....so either you don't know your own country or you are playing stupid. Either one doesn't work.
Hearsay is not worth responding to. I go to Kashmir atleast 4-5 times a year and is never a case when I dont meet a journalist or 2 in my flight to jammu. so either you are claiming to know a country you have no clue about or are playing over smart. Either one doesn't work, but go ahead ; knock yourself out.;)
 
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its funny how all these airstrikes somehow kill ''30 suspected militants'' all the time. like 30 of these guys all like camping round a fire and sipping tea in a cave listening to the jets coming.
 
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its funny how all these airstrikes somehow kill ''30 suspected militants'' all the time. like 30 of these guys all like camping round a fire and sipping tea in a cave listening to the jets coming.

Its funny how you seem to think that no such thing such as Intelligence exists and the aircraft only drop a single bomb. :azn:

P.S. Get some basic knowledge.
 
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North Waziristan Offensive
  • On August 5, air force airstrikes in Datta Khel, Marsi Khel and Kamsham in North Waziristan killed 30 suspected militants and destroyed six militant hideouts.[1]
Militancy
  • On August 5, in the Mastung area of Balochistan, unknown men fired on a Balochistan Constabulary vehicle killing two personnel inside and injuring several others.[2]
  • On August 4, unknown men attacked a Frontier Corps checkpost with rockets in Tump in Kech district of Balochistan. No one was killed. In a separate incident in Tubat town, Balochistan, unknown motorcyclists shot at and killed a man.[3]

Next is Baluchistan it seems. BLA chiefs in America finding soft spot for Pakistan once again. :woot: @Aeronaut
 
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Next is Baluchistan it seems. BLA chiefs in America finding soft spot for Pakistan once again. :woot: @Aeronaut

That North American lobby giving up is actually a big victory for peace. Eventually all of them will agree to such an arrangement (obviously our guys were talking to those leaders in secret).
 
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its funny how all these airstrikes somehow kill ''30 suspected militants'' all the time. like 30 of these guys all like camping round a fire and sipping tea in a cave listening to the jets coming.
Will twenty nine and a half make you happy? Its an estimate. They are flying recce missions after which strikes are called in. How do you know the 30 chaps are not inside a compound that has been hit?

Critique is fine from a far, but last I checked, the IA was giving its soldiers decorations for fighting off enemy ghosts and feigning combat injuries with tomato ketchup on uniform.

I personally hope the estimates are bloated. Who wants to kill more? The less the better but these reports are all part of military's media campaign.
 
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Will twenty nine and a half make you happy? Its an estimate. They are flying recce missions after which strikes are called in. How do you know the 30 chaps are not inside a compound that has been hit?

Critique is fine from a far, but last I checked, the IA was giving its soldiers decorations for fighting off enemy ghosts and feigning combat injuries with tomato ketchup on uniform.

I personally hope the estimates are bloated. Who wants to kill more? The less the better but these reports are all part of military's media campaign.
perhaps you should ask yourself the first question, how does the army know 30 people were in a compound, did they count the bodies afterwards or did the mysteriously disappear like all those other kills they claim.
So you admit its ok for the army to give disinformation? lying about enemy fatalities to keep the public happy is something called propaganda, if you want to live in a cuckoo world and be blind to truth then go ahead. More progressive people would prefer to hear the ground realities
a typical pdf response whenever someone genuinely critiques the army somehow he's and indian or a dirty afgan, I think the indian army can be liars but i don't feel as though the exaggerate stories as much as the pak army unlike the pak army the indian army doesn't control there news media, and the indian media freely criticizes there army
 
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perhaps you should ask yourself the first question, how does the army know 30 people were in a compound, did they count the bodies afterwards or did the mysteriously disappear like all those other kills they claim.
So you admit its ok for the army to give disinformation? lying about enemy fatalities to keep the public happy is something called propaganda, if you want to live in a cuckoo world and be blind to truth then go ahead. More progressive people would prefer to hear the ground realities
a typical pdf response whenever someone genuinely critiques the army somehow he's and indian or a dirty afgan, I think the indian army can be liars but i don't feel as though the exaggerate stories as much as the pak army unlike the pak army the indian army doesn't control there news media, and the indian media freely criticizes there army
Ok, you've spoken your mind. nothing else to see here folks, lets move along.
 
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North Waziristan Offensive
  • A U.S. drone strike killed five militants, most of them reportedly foreigners, and injured two others when it hit a compound in Datta Khel, North Waziristan on August 6. The Express Tribune reported that the strike killed six militants. The militants could not be identified.[1]
  • Airstrikes on August 5 were reportedly the first to target areas of Garyaum sub-district in North Waziristan. A tribal cleric and North Waziristan peace Jirga member told The News that Pakistani airstrikes on August 5 also targeted the Gharlamai area in Afghanistan’s Khost province, bordering Datta Khel, where 500 families from North Waziristan’s Degan area fled due to airstrikes and artillery shelling. He also alleged that the Gharlamai airstrikes killed several civilians. According to press reports on August 6, the Pakistani military had allowed residents of the Garyaum, Razmak, Dos Ali, Datta Khel, Shawal and Lowara Mandi areas in North Waziristan to stay in their villages[2]
  • The Express Tribune reported on August 6 that the Pakistani military is currently conducting clearing operations between Mir Ali and Miram Shah, in the villages of Momi Gul Ziarat, Darpa Khel, Tappi, and Spalga.[3]
  • Dawn reported on August 6 that the new commander of U.S. and NATO Forces in Afghanistan praised the Pakistani North Waziristan offensive but believes more action is needed.[4]
 
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Widening of Zarb-i-Azb operation likely
http://www.dawn.com/news/1123981/widening-of-zarb-i-azb-operation-likely

By Zulfiqar Ali
Published about 3 hours ago

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PESHAWAR: The government has asked people in Mirali and Shawal sub-divisions of the conflict-hit North Waziristan Agency to leave their homes amid reports of expansion of ground offensive to other areas.

The people of Razmak, Spinwam, Shewa, Shawal, Eidek and other areas of the agency were exempted from evacuation before the launch of Zarb-i-Azb on June 15.

The authorities issued evacuation notices to the people of Shawal a few days ago. They have been asked to move to Bannu.

According to officials, the political administration asked about 4,000 families of Eidek, some seven kilometres west of Mirali, to vacate their homes after Saturday. The notices triggered resentment among the residents of the area and they refused to follow the orders.

The military operation has already forced over 52,000 families in Miramshah and Mirali to move to Bannu. Initially, over 92,000 families were registered as IDPs but their number has been reduced after verification by the National Database and Registration Authority.

The army has claimed that Mirali, Miramshah and adjacent villages have been cleared of militants. Over 500 local and foreign terrorists were killed. Air Force planes have been attacking militant hideouts in Shawal, where hundreds of local and foreign terrorists are reported to have moved in after the operation was launched in Miramshah.

An official in the office of Bannu’s deputy commissioner said evacuation of civilians from the mountainous Shawal area, near the Afghan border, would start on Friday. They will arrive at the Sidgai checkpost in Frontier Region Bannu for registration – mandatory for receiving cash and food assistance.

The Fata Disaster Management Authority (FDMA) has deputed staff at the checkpost where about 4,000 families are expected to come from Eidek. An FDMA official said that arrangements had been made at the checkpost, including registration of IDPs, provision of cooked food, water and distribution of SIM cards. “We are prepared to tackle the new influx,” he added.

According to sources, the political authorities had issued notices to the residents of Eidek on Wednesday night, asking them to pack up their belongings. The residents accused the government of backing out of its commitment. A jirga of elders will be held on Friday to decide whether or not to leave homes.

An elder, Maulvi Mohammad Alam, told Dawn that before the operation Peshawar Corps Commander Lt Gen Khalid Rabbani and the General Officer Commanding had assured them that they would not be evacuated.

The notices caused panic among the residents, he said. “This decision is not acceptable to the people and they will not vacate their homes.”

Maulvi Alam accused the authorities of violating the agreement under which the people had assured the corps commander that they will protect the area.

There was no justification for evacuation, he said, adding that the government had allowed transportation of rations and other basic commodities to the residents of Eidek and two convoys carrying food were recently sent to the village.

Published in Dawn, August 8th, 2014
 
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Widening of Zarb-i-Azb operation likely
By Zulfiqar Ali

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Razmak, Spinwam, Shewa, Shawal, Eidek and other areas of the agency were exempted from evacuation before the launch of Zarb-i-Azb. — File photo
PESHAWAR: The government has asked people in Mirali and Shawal sub-divisions of the conflict-hit North Waziristan Agency to leave their homes amid reports of expansion of ground offensive to other areas.

The people of Razmak, Spinwam, Shewa, Shawal, Eidek and other areas of the agency were exempted from evacuation before the launch of Zarb-i-Azb on June 15.
The authorities issued evacuation notices to the people of Shawal a few days ago. They have been asked to move to Bannu.

According to officials, the political administration asked about 4,000 families of Eidek, some seven kilometres west of Mirali, to vacate their homes after Saturday. The notices triggered resentment among the residents of the area and they refused to follow the orders.

The military operation has already forced over 52,000 families in Miramshah and Mirali to move to Bannu. Initially, over 92,000 families were registered as IDPs but their number has been reduced after verification by the National Database and Registration Authority.

The army has claimed that Mirali, Miramshah and adjacent villages have been cleared of militants. Over 500 local and foreign terrorists were killed. Air Force planes have been attacking militant hideouts in Shawal, where hundreds of local and foreign terrorists are reported to have moved in after the operation was launched in Miramshah.

An official in the office of Bannu’s deputy commissioner said evacuation of civilians from the mountainous Shawal area, near the Afghan border, would start on Friday. They will arrive at the Sidgai checkpost in Frontier Region Bannu for registration – mandatory for receiving cash and food assistance.

The Fata Disaster Management Authority (FDMA) has deputed staff at the checkpost where about 4,000 families are expected to come from Eidek. An FDMA official said that arrangements had been made at the checkpost, including registration of IDPs, provision of cooked food, water and distribution of SIM cards. “We are prepared to tackle the new influx,” he added.

According to sources, the political authorities had issued notices to the residents of Eidek on Wednesday night, asking them to pack up their belongings. The residents accused the government of backing out of its commitment. A jirga of elders will be held on Friday to decide whether or not to leave homes.

An elder, Maulvi Mohammad Alam, told Dawn that before the operation Peshawar Corps Commander Lt Gen Khalid Rabbani and the General Officer Commanding had assured them that they would not be evacuated. The notices caused panic among the residents, he said. “This decision is not acceptable to the people and they will not vacate their homes.”
Maulvi Alam accused the authorities of violating the agreement under which the people had assured the corps commander that they will protect the area.

There was no justification for evacuation, he said, adding that the government had allowed transportation of rations and other basic commodities to the residents of Eidek and two convoys carrying food were recently sent to the village.

Published in Dawn, August 8th, 2014
 
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It requires even further widening!

Widening of Zarb-i-Azb operation likely
By Zulfiqar Ali

53e3f7a9e63dd.jpg

Razmak, Spinwam, Shewa, Shawal, Eidek and other areas of the agency were exempted from evacuation before the launch of Zarb-i-Azb. — File photo
PESHAWAR: The government has asked people in Mirali and Shawal sub-divisions of the conflict-hit North Waziristan Agency to leave their homes amid reports of expansion of ground offensive to other areas.
The people of Razmak, Spinwam, Shewa, Shawal, Eidek and other areas of the agency were exempted from evacuation before the launch of Zarb-i-Azb on June 15.
The authorities issued evacuation notices to the people of Shawal a few days ago. They have been asked to move to Bannu.
According to officials, the political administration asked about 4,000 families of Eidek, some seven kilometres west of Mirali, to vacate their homes after Saturday. The notices triggered resentment among the residents of the area and they refused to follow the orders.

The military operation has already forced over 52,000 families in Miramshah and Mirali to move to Bannu. Initially, over 92,000 families were registered as IDPs but their number has been reduced after verification by the National Database and Registration Authority.
The army has claimed that Mirali, Miramshah and adjacent villages have been cleared of militants. Over 500 local and foreign terrorists were killed. Air Force planes have been attacking militant hideouts in Shawal, where hundreds of local and foreign terrorists are reported to have moved in after the operation was launched in Miramshah.
An official in the office of Bannu’s deputy commissioner said evacuation of civilians from the mountainous Shawal area, near the Afghan border, would start on Friday. They will arrive at the Sidgai checkpost in Frontier Region Bannu for registration – mandatory for receiving cash and food assistance.
The Fata Disaster Management Authority (FDMA) has deputed staff at the checkpost where about 4,000 families are expected to come from Eidek. An FDMA official said that arrangements had been made at the checkpost, including registration of IDPs, provision of cooked food, water and distribution of SIM cards. “We are prepared to tackle the new influx,” he added.
According to sources, the political authorities had issued notices to the residents of Eidek on Wednesday night, asking them to pack up their belongings. The residents accused the government of backing out of its commitment. A jirga of elders will be held on Friday to decide whether or not to leave homes.
An elder, Maulvi Mohammad Alam, told Dawn that before the operation Peshawar Corps Commander Lt Gen Khalid Rabbani and the General Officer Commanding had assured them that they would not be evacuated.
The notices caused panic among the residents, he said. “This decision is not acceptable to the people and they will not vacate their homes.”
Maulvi Alam accused the authorities of violating the agreement under which the people had assured the corps commander that they will protect the area.
There was no justification for evacuation, he said, adding that the government had allowed transportation of rations and other basic commodities to the residents of Eidek and two convoys carrying food were recently sent to the village.
Published in Dawn, August 8th, 2014
 
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