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He also previously served ISI like Gen Kiyani.

did he head ISI or was he just a part of it? Gen Kyani was DG ISI.
now that we have got NRO president, so next gen might be appointed by americans and not on merit.
 
did he head ISI or was he just a part of it? Gen Kyani was DG ISI.
now that we have got NRO president, so next gen might be appointed by americans and not on merit.

Dont know more details.

Disagree , I think PA is only independent and strongest organisation in Pakistan.Thanks to Gen Zia.
 
Unclear if Pakistan offensive serves US interests
By Daphne Benoit – 4 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Pakistan's offensive against Taliban militants has won praise from Washington but may bring little benefit to US forces in neighboring Afghanistan, experts and US officials say.

Having pressed Pakistan to take on Islamist militants on its soil, Washington has hailed Islamabad for its anti-Taliban military campaign launched in April.

But Islamabad has not targeted Washington's main enemies -- Afghan Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders on the Pakistani border -- and instead has directed its assault on Pakistani Taliban, officials and analysts say.

Pakistan's interests "don't necessarily align 100 percent with the US as well as allies' interests," said a US defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Pakistani forces are focusing on the Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud and his network, blamed for a wave of attacks that have killed nearly 2,000 in the nuclear-armed nation in the past two years.

"It appears as though Pakistan still has the same policy as before and continues to differentiate between the 'good Taliban,' being the ones who attack US and NATO forces, ... and the 'bad Taliban,' like Baitullah Meshud, being the ones who attack the Pakistani government," said Malou Innocent of the CATO Institute.

The problem is that "at a strategic level Pakistan and the US are not on the same page," Innocent said. "Until US lawmakers recognize that, we are going to be in Afghanistan in perpetuity."

Islamabad remains reluctant to move against Afghan Taliban, such as militants led by Mullah Omar or the Haqqani network, as it views them as useful in countering the influence of its arch-enemy India in Afghanistan, analysts said.

"Indians do have an influence in Afghanistan and Karzai has a friendly relationship with India," said Caroline Wadhams, national security analyst at the Center for American Progress.

"They are scared that the US will get out of Afghanistan and that Afghanistan becomes more and more of an Indian satellite.

"So they keep these groups of Afghan Taliban around that are attacking into Afghanistan to stem the growing influence of India in Afghanistan," she said.

President Barack Obama's administration insists the Pakistan offensive serves US interests, though not necessarily delivering a direct benefit in Afghanistan, where 56,000 US troops are serving along with about 34,000 allied foreign troops.

"The Pakistani extremist threat was a very urgent threat, very close to Islamabad and extending in geography," said a senior US defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Islamabad's army operations have put pressure on members of the Al-Qaeda network allied with Pakistani Taliban and cut off a potential safe haven in the Swat Valley, the official said.

"There are some groups that we'd like the Pakistanis to take more action against, for example the Afghan Taliban, but we share a common interest against the Pakistan Taliban," he said.

US officials acknowledge the army assault in the Swat Valley has had no effect on the movement of militants across the border into Afghanistan from bases in Pakistan.

While Washington has welcomed plans by the Pakistan army to open up a second front in South Wazirstan, some analysts say the move in the lawless tribal belt could push militants over the border to neighboring Afghanistan
AFP: Unclear if Pakistan offensive serves US interests
 
Rawalpindi - June 18, 2009:

1. In last 24 hours, 34 terrorists were killed and 7 were apprehended, while 5 soldiers were injured in Malakand.

2. Swat

a. Security forces carried out clearance operation around Mingora and recovered 15 rifles, while 5 suspected terrorists were also apprehended including Mohtamum Madrassa Fiaz during search operation at Shahpur.

b. Security forces successfully secured area around Bridge 2, Kabbal and Kotlai. During exchange of fire between security forces and terrorists, 12 terrorists were killed while 5 soldiers were injured.

c. During consolidation operation at Tutan Banda, 6 terrorists were killed.

d. Security forces commenced clearance operation of Shamozai area. During encounter 10 terrorists were killed.

3. Dir

a. Security forces apprehended 2 suspected terrorists at Shewa and also recovered 1 Light Machine Gun, 60 rounds, 1 TT Pistol and 1 Binocular.

b. Security forces conducted search operation at Nimazgai area of Upper Dir, during exchange of fire between terrorists and security forces, 6 terrorists were killed.

4. Relief Activities by Army.

a. So far Army has distributed 4,517 tons rations including relief items collected from all Corps Headquarters, Civilians and NGOs amongst the IDPs of Malakand.

b. 21,587 cash cards amounting to Rs. 539.675 million have been distributed among the IDPs.

c. A new camp for IDPs named "FAMEELO" is being established at Jalozai.

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KIT Over n Out :victory::pakistan::sniper::guns:
 
He also previously served ISI like Gen Kiyani.

That does not really matter in my humble opinion. Under normal circumstances, of the PSOs in the Army, the CGS becomes the next Army chief. However there are so many exceptions to the case now that we mostly see the CoAS being picked from the ranks of the Corps commanders. So you just never know. It really is very political up there and usually the whims of the President/PM carry a lot of weight in the democratic dispensation in Pakistan.
 
That does not really matter in my humble opinion. Under normal circumstances, of the PSOs in the Army, the CGS becomes the next Army chief. However there are so many exceptions to the case now that we mostly see the CoAS being picked from the ranks of the Corps commanders. So you just never know. It really is very political up there and usually the whims of the President/PM carry a lot of weight in the democratic dispensation in Pakistan.

all 3 generals who superseded more senior officers went on to overthrow the very govt and civilian leaders who hand-picked them!

ayub, zia and musharraf overthrew i/mirza, bhutto and nawaz!

now what does this tells us!
 
all 3 generals who superseded more senior officers went on to overthrow the very govt and civilian leaders who hand-picked them!

ayub, zia and musharraf overthrew i/mirza, bhutto and nawaz!

now what does this tells us!

It clearly shows that what goes around certainly comes around and with a certain interest!
 
That does not really matter in my humble opinion. Under normal circumstances, of the PSOs in the Army, the CGS becomes the next Army chief. However there are so many exceptions to the case now that we mostly see the CoAS being picked from the ranks of the Corps commanders. So you just never know. It really is very political up there and usually the whims of the President/PM carry a lot of weight in the democratic dispensation in Pakistan.

Sir,

You are right but our polticians are weak and corrupt ,COAS recomendation will be more important in present senario.
 
Dont know more details.

Disagree , I think PA is only independent and strongest organisation in Pakistan.Thanks to Gen Zia.

Gen Zia was a self-serving scoundrel dictator who was instrumental in stunting the democratic evolution of this country. He is one of the reasons why we are terror-stricken and battling the jihadi/taliban mutants today.
 
Easy there Talbswatter - the "conscientious" do not object to the excesses of the islamists, these are but information operation of those dedicated to the destruction of Jinnah's Pakistan.
 
whatever - my guess is you either like military dictators hellbent on destroying democractic institutions or are related to the late dictator - are you Gen Zia's nephew or something? :)

Although he was dictator but also was victorious of Afghan Russian War , no doubt he enjoyed the help of US and during his tenure in 1983 Pakistan got nuke capability .

All these achievement are enough to remember him as great leader not only of Pakistan but of muslim ummah.
 

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