What's new

One Belt, One Road not international venture: India

Except for the Qing, you never had a unified Chinese land. China's ideal configuration is like this -
hoi3game-2011-03-24-00-22-55-05.jpg

WoW British Raj is so ideal in Hearts of Iron that even its name is omited

Bharat existed as a single political entity a few times in history.
China never existed as a country. It DOES NOT exist as one country EVEN TODAY.
Except for the Qing, you never had a unified Chinese land.

=
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's unconscious qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.[2]
 
Last edited:
.
not really as in? not really that China is gonna stop Obor/Cpec construction in Pakistani Kashmir? on the basis of what? your opinion ?


Chinese first need to return back occupied Indian territories as those lands are holy lands of Indian nation.

More butt hurt for India. Everywhere you look there is butt hurt for India.

China and Pakistan are going to work day and night to make CPEC a dream come true. We are going to watch India burn from the sidelines. India is irrelevant.


Chinese are aware that OBOR/CPEC are not going to be sucessful as its direct aggression against Indian nation.
 
.
U speak like a speech-programmed robot.

China's not returning any of the 'holy lands' u were talking about, nor is obor/cpec gonna stop in pakistani kashmir.

Chinese minister has already diplomatically reassured and explained the matter on it to, or to put it bluntly- brush off the indian side.

However, it is your patriotic right to rant and protests all you want for mother india- though acknowledging the realistic truth is much better than to bury your head in the sand
 
.
U speak like a speech-programmed robot.

China's not returning any of the 'holy lands' u were talking about, nor is obor/cpec gonna stop in pakistani kashmir.

Chinese minister has already diplomatically reassured and explained the matter on it to, or to put it bluntly- brush off the indian side.

However, it is your patriotic right to rant and protests all you want for mother india- though acknowledging the realistic truth is much better than to bury your head in the sand

Indian Establishment has already explained its stand regarding the border dispute status .
 
. . . . . .
http://zeenews.india.com/india/resp...ereignty-new-delhi-tells-beijing_1968430.html

New Delhi: In the midst of growing unease in their ties, India on Wednesday asked China to respect its territorial sovereignty and said its ascent should not be seen as a threat to China's rise.


Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar also criticised Pakistan for "blocking" SAARC, saying the regional grouping has become "ineffective" due to insecurity of one member nation.

Calling terrorism the most "pervasive and serious" threat to international security, he rued lack of coherence in dealing with the menace globally, adding pressures to reform the UN so that it can deal with major challenges effectively will only grow with each passing day.

Talking about the China-Pakistan-Economic Corridor (CPEC) which passes through Pakistan occupied-Kashmir, Jaishankar, addressing the Raisina Dialogue, envisioned as the country's flagship conference on geopolitics and geo-economics, said China should repect India's territorial sovereignty as Beijing was "very sensitive" to matters relating to its own sovereignty.

"China is a country which is very sensitive on matters concerning its sovereignty. So we would expect that they would have some understanding of other people's sensitivity on their sovereignty," he said, noting there was no sign of any reflection on India's concerns over CPEC project.

The Foreign Secretary's comments came a day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi, in a clear message to China, said both sides should show sensitivity and respect for each other's core concerns and interests.

Modi had yesterday said only by respecting the sovereignty of countries involved, can regional connectivity corridors fulfil their promise and avoid "differences and discord".

"What we are trying to do is to convince China that our rise is not harmful to China's rise just as China's rise need not be to India's rise," Jaishankar told the gathering.

Referring to Donald Trump's election, the Foreign Secretary said relations between the US and Russia could undergo a major transformation not seen since 1945 and that its impact was hard to predict.

In this context, he said India's relations with both the US and Russia were on an upswing and an improvement in US-Russia ties was not against Indian interests.

On overall ties with China, Jaishankar said there has been broadening of cooperation, especially in areas of business and people-to-people contacts, but these have been "overshadowed" by differences on certain political issues. He said China's power and its expression remain a dynamic factor in Asia.

Some chill have set in Sino-India ties following China's opposition to India's bid for Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) membership as also after Beijing blocked India's move at the UN to designate Masood Azhar a global terrorist.

On terrorism, Jaishankar said ways to deal with the threat was major focus of India's diplomacy, adding "terror is a snake that bites the hand that feeds it."

Talking about SAARC, Jaishankar said, "We hoped to partially remedy this (Pakistan's obstuction) through the BBIN (Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Nepal) sub-regional grouping.

"It is also our expectation that the current level of enthusiasm among members of BIMSTEC can be channelled towards more far-reaching initiatives."


First Published: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 - 19:48
 
.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ivity-foreign-secretary-s-jaishankar-4480669/
jaishankar-tharoor-759.jpg


A day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi said “only by respecting the sovereignty of countries involved, can regional connectivity corridors fulfil their promise and avoid differences and discord”, Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar, in one of the sharpest comments by the government on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), said Beijing had not been sensitive about India’s sovereignty and did not consult New Delhi on its $54-billion project with Islamabad.

Responding to questions at the second edition of the Raisina Dialogue in New Delhi Wednesday, Jaishankar said, “China is a country which is very sensitive on matters concerning its sovereignty… so we would expect that they would have some understanding of other people’s sensitivity about their sovereignty. The CPEC passes through a piece of land, which we call Azad Kashmir, which is a territory that belongs to India and is illegally occupied by Pakistan.”

“So the fact that such a project has been initiated without consultation with India, I would imagine, people will understand what the Indian reaction to that would be. So I think in approaching the CPEC, there needs to be some reflection on how a country like India would see that is part of India, would feel… I am sorry to say that we have not seen signs of that so far,” he said.

While India has raised the issue of CPEC at various levels, including at the highest level with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the BRICS summit in Goa last October, Jaishankar’s comments were the most critical so far.

In his prepared remarks, however, Jaishankar was much more measured. “With China, the overall broadening of ties, especially in business and people-to-people contacts, has been overshadowed by differences on certain political issues. But it is important for the two countries not to lose sight of the strategic nature of their engagement, or falter in their conviction that their rise can be mutually supportive. We will continue to invest more energy into this account in 2017.”

“What we are trying to do is to convince China that our rise is not harmful to China’s rise just as China’s rise need not be to India’s rise,” the Foreign Secretary told the gathering.

He was critical of Pakistan and said SAARC had been made ineffective due to the “insecurity of one member” — a reference to the cancellation of the SAARC summit in Islamabad last year as other member countries, led by India and Afghanistan, boycotted it.

He said the BBIN (Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Nepal) and BIMSTEC (Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Economic Cooperation) are other groupings which can be utilised for sub-regional cooperation.

“Regional groupings are today one of the building blocks of the global order. Their driving force and commonality are perhaps the most obvious of all. India is a founder member of SAARC, an organisation that has been made ineffective due to the insecurity of one member. We hope to partially remedy this through the BBIN sub-regional grouping. It is also our expectation that the current level of enthusiasm among members of BIMSTEC can be channelled towards more far-reaching initiatives,” he said.

Jaishankar said “terrorism remains the most pervasive and serious challenge to international security. Developing a serious global response is of the highest priority, yet hard to do.”

On his own engagement with the incoming US administration, he said, “Our ties with the United States have been steadily growing and today cover vast areas of collaboration. We established early contact with the Trump transition team and see a strong convergence of interests and concerns. With Russia, India’s relationship has actually grown very substantially in the last two years, as has the bonding between our leaders. An improvement in US-Russia ties is, therefore, not against Indian interests.”

On the need to reform the United Nations, Jaishankar said: “The absurdity of the main multilateral decision-making body being more than 70 years old — and due for retirement anywhere in the world — is obvious to all except those with vested interest.”

“There can be no getting away from the myriad of global challenges that will eventually require a credible multilateral response. The pressures to reform the UN will only grow with each passing day,” he said.
 
.
http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...nt-stake-in-pakistan-stocks-exchange-4484982/
Chinese Ambassador to Pakistan Sun Weidong said the occasion marked a new step in all-round cooperation between the two countries.

By: PTI | Karachi | Published:January 21, 2017 1:45 pm
A consortium led by Chinese firms has signed a strategic agreement to acquire 40 per cent equity of Pakistan Stock Exchange for $85 million, in a move aimed at mobilising funds for the $46-billion CPEC project and facilitating China’s entry into the Pakistani capital market. The Sale and Purchase Agreement (SPA) was signed yesterday in the presence of Finance Minister Ishaq Dar in Karachi. The consortium comprises Chinese Financial Futures Exchange Company Ltd (lead bidders), Shanghai Stock Exchange, Shenzhen Stock Exchange, and two local partners Pak-China Investment Company and Habib Bank Ltd, Dawn reported.

It had won by placing the highest bid of 28 rupees a share for 320 million shares at a price consideration of Rs 8.96 billion (USD 85 mn) when the stake was put forth in December. The PSX also plans to launch infrastructure bonds which would be predominantly be used for the USD 46-billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor project, that passes through the Azad Kashmir (Azad Kashmir).

Speaking on the occasion, Dar said the government had set up a ‘Pakistan Development Fund’ aimed at financing the infrastructure development projects in the country.

“We would soon be coming to the Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX) to mobilise funds,” he said, adding the International Finance Corporation and others had indicated their interest in participating in the Fund.

Dar said the strategic deal with the Chinese consortium was a “dream come true” for him. Besides being the best market in Asia and fifth best among global bourses in 2016 on the basis of returns, the PSX had after the divestment graduated to ‘regional market’, he said. He expressed the hope that the decision by the Chinese consortium to venture into Pakistan’s capital market would bring benefits to both sides.

“Divestment will result in institutional shareholding, experienced ownership and good governance for PSX which will translate into organised and robust development of the exchange,” he said.

Chinese Ambassador to Pakistan Sun Weidong said the occasion marked a new step in all-round cooperation between the two countries. “It is a win-win situation for both sides,” the ambassador said and added that the partnership would assist in investment financing and generate credit for CPEC.

“It comes at a significant moment when we are pushing forward CPEC to deepen cooperation and sustainable development in China-Pakistan all-weather friendship.”
 
.
thumbs_b_c_7c8ebf4e5d813f9dbab5ce96dbb412a0.jpg


Special Security Division formed to secure China-Pakistan Economic Project

http://aa.com.tr/en/world/pakistan-forms-special-force-for-cpec-security-/732603


Pakistan's interior ministry has formally announced the establishment of a 15000-men strong force for the security of the multi billion dollar China-Pakistan Economic Project (CPEC), state-run Radio Pakistan reported on Sunday.

The force, which comprises of 9000 army troops and 6000 para military soldiers has been named as the Special Security Division.


The 51.5 billion dollar CPEC, which is part of China's One Road-One Belt project, aims to connect its northwestern Xinjiang province to Pakistan's southwestern Baluchistan province through a 2000-mile network of road, rail and pipelines.

Baluchistan's deep-sea Gawadar port, a key component of CPEC, will provide the shortest route for the Chinese cargo destined for Middle East, Africa and Central Asia.

Two Chinese ships have joined the Pakistan navy earlier this month for the security of Gawadar port.
 
.
pakistan-china_aa5ae690-e9e8-11e6-a2d8-09470c086dd7.jpg

A Pakistan Navy soldier stands guard while a loaded Chinese ship is readied for departure prior to a ceremony at Gwadar port, about 435 miles, 700 km, west of Karachi.(AP)

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...oad-splurge/story-FLeg30VtcX0R7lldGFeODI.html]
Chinese companies are in talks to snap up more businesses and land in Pakistan after sealing two major deals in recent months, a sign of deepening ties after Beijing vowed to plough $57 billion into a new trade route across the South Asian nation.

A dozen executives from some of Pakistan’s biggest firms told Reuters that Chinese companies were looking mainly at the cement, steel, energy and textile sectors, the backbone of Pakistan’s $270 billion economy.

Analysts say the interest shows Chinese firms are using Beijing’s “One Belt, One Road” project -- a global trade network of which Pakistan is a key part -- to help expand abroad at a time when growth has slowed at home.

A Chinese-led consortium recently took a strategic stake in the Pakistan Stock Exchange, and Shanghai Electric Power acquired one of Pakistan’s biggest energy producers, K-Electric, for $1.8 billion.

“The Chinese have got deep pockets and they are looking for major investment in Pakistan,” said Muhammad Ali Tabba, chief executive of two companies in the Yunus Brothers Group cement-to-chemicals conglomerate.


Tabba said Yunus Brothers, partnering with a Chinese company, lost out in the battle for K-Electric, but the group is eyeing up other joint ventures as part of a $2 billion expansion plan over the coming years.

Mohammad Zubair, Pakistan’s privatisation minister until a few days ago, told Reuters that China’s steel giant Baosteel Group is in talks over a 30-year lease for state-run Pakistan Steel Mills. Baosteel did not respond to a request for comment.

The negotiations come as Pakistani business sentiment turns, with companies betting that Beijing’s splurge on road, rail and energy infrastructure under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) will boost the economy.

The Chinese charge is in contrast to Western investors, who have largely avoided Pakistan in recent years despite fewer militant attacks and economic growth near 5%.


It is welcomed by many in Pakistan: foreign direct investment was $1.9 billion in 2015/2016, far below the 2007/2008 peak of $5.4 billion.

At the stock exchange signing ceremony, Sun Weidong, China’s ambassador to Pakistan, said the deal “embodies the ongoing financial integration” between Chinese and Pakistani markets.

“This will facilitate more financial support for our enterprises,” Sun said.

Reservations

CPEC will connect China’s Western region with Pakistan’s Arabian Sea port of Gwadar through a network of rail, road and pipeline projects.

That will be funded by loans from China, and much of the business will go to Chinese enterprises.

The scale of Chinese corporate interest beyond that is difficult to gauge, but in Karachi, Pakistan’s financial centre, sharply-dressed Chinese appear to outnumber Westerners in hotels, restaurants and the city’s airport.

Rising skyscrapers testify to a construction boom in the city, businesses are printing Chinese-language brochures and salaries demanded by Pakistanis who speak Chinese have shot up.


Miftah Ismail, chairman of Pakistan’s Board of Investment, said Chinese companies were interested in investing in the telecoms and auto sectors, with FAW Group and Foton Motor Group planning to enter Pakistan.

FAW said the Pakistan “project is going through internal approvals”, but did not offer more details. Foton declined to comment.

But not everyone is excited by China’s growing role in the Pakistan economy, including trade unions, who said Chinese companies’ alleged mistreatment of local workers in Africa in the past had alarmed them.

“We have concern and reservations that the Chinese might use the same methods in Pakistan,” said Nasir Mansoor, deputy general secretary of National Trade Union Federation, Pakistan, the national trade union body.

The Chinese government and Chinese companies have dismissed such accusations in the past.

And doing business may not be easy for newcomers. Security remains a concern despite a drop in Islamist militant violence, and in the World Bank’s ease of doing business index, Pakistan ranks 144 out of 190 countries.

Next phase

The Chinese interest comes as Islamabad and Beijing discuss the next phase of CPEC: how to build Pakistan’s industry with the help of Chinese state-owned industrial giants.

Pakistani officials are drafting plans for special economic zones which would offer tax breaks and other benefits to Chinese businesses.

But even before zones are established, Chinese investors are scoping out land deals.


“A lot of companies ... don’t care about CPEC. They just want 500 acres of land to set up shop,” said Naheed Memon, head of the Sindh province’s Board of Investment.

Faisal Aftab, manager of private investment firm Oxon Partners, said Oxon was in talks with two state-run Chinese companies and a wealthy Chinese businessman to purchase and develop land for high-end residential and commercial properties.

“They are seeking land in prime markets such as Lahore, Karachi, and Islamabad,” Aftab said.

Yunus Brothers’ Tabba urged Western investors to overcome their “phobia” of Pakistan.

“If they came here, they would see the momentum, the buzz of growth.”

(Additional reporting by Syed Raza Hassan in Karachi and Mehreen Zahra Malik in Islamabad)
 
.
It is an international venture if it has at least two countries
 
.
Back
Top Bottom