On the brink of a Third World War

[Hyperion]

More warmongers....Retarded topic..... Who the **** is this TERMINALX character? Better yet, someone shut down this thread, hurts the credibility of the forum.

 

[Barrack-Obummer]

You don't want territory, you want the resources and puppets who will accept israel's crimes against humanity. We know you understand that very well but of course, it's quite inconvenient for people like you to admit the facts, hence, the use of the term 'nonsense'.

Don't give me this crap, all countries fight for resources and cooperation between nations. I'm not sure you understand that one very well, however.

 

[Zabaniyah]

It seems that 2012 onwards, the world is on the brink of Third World War. All sane and peace loving men would pray that it is averted. For, the horoscope of the times, points towards a global catastrophe in the making. The guns of August 1914 - First World War - paled in front of the Panzer Blitzkrieg of September 1939 - Second World War. The Third World War during the Cold War was averted between the Nato and the Warsaw Pact forces. If a war breaks out in 2012 onwards, nukes shall speak and, tragically, billions may die; it will most likely be global. This apocalyptic scenario may yet come to pass, unless it is stopped in its tracks.

Horoscopes?

Opposing alliances: The US globalists-led Nato still wants to dominate the world, despite the disaster in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is not only that the Western world's global dominance stands challenged, but also the march of history may be reversed. Since the 1500s scientific discoveries, industrialisation, political revolutions, colonialism, and technological ascendency, the world has been controlled by Western powers. The British Empire, Napoleon’s France, Hitler’s Germany and, more recently, the US have all been part of the Western world’s bid for global hegemony or control. Now the West is really in decline. The USA – the great power and land of mass production - faces economic stagnation, if not full decline. The EU faces its own economic predicament. Against this backdrop, some Europeans and Americans find the idea of a powerful Germany leading Europe as unacceptable, so far. The two wars were fought - among other reasons – mainly to prevent Germany from its rightful place under the sun. An intra-European conflict may be brewing for the leadership of Europe, even as the US-Nato alliance conflicts with the Russia-China dialectic alliance.

Crap.

The US geostrategy has been embroiled in Afghanistan and Iraq; now it seeks to extend the war to Iran-Pakistan. Of course, the real war is against Russia and China, the opposing alliance. Washington sees China rising, Russia resurgent, Islamic world defiant (with Arab Spring likely to turn anti-West), Israel endangered, besides Western economic decline.

Said by who? Bob the Clown?

The presidential elections in America are upping the war ante, forcing President Barack Obama to strike Iran. New Delhi seeks Washington’s support to denuke, balkanise, and de-Islamise Pakistan, before USA’s departure from Afghanistan. Meanwhile Israel is straining at the leash before Iran develops the nuclear arsenal. This will change the strategic balance followed by nuclear Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt.

What a load of crock!

And there isn't going to be any war in Iran. If America was upset with Iran, they could have done so over thirty years ago.

In Afghanistan, the US seeks to retain a 25,000 strong force for the denuclearisation of Iran and Pakistan. It may seek independence of Balochistan (with Indian support). A clash with Pakistan is likely though not inevitable. Delhi wants to use American power to fight Pakistan, but absurdly believes it can escape the nuclear conflagration. The war with Iran is even nearer – perhaps, 2012. The US and Nato may attack Iran followed by Pakistan or both at the same time. An Israeli attack on Iran is even more likely and Indian attack on Pakistan (Cold Start) always remains a possibility.

Russia and China are allies against the US-Nato geo-strategy (Iran and Pakistan are joining this alliance). China is rising economically, and Russia is resurgent strategically. After Iraq and Afghanistan, they have seen the US-Nato model of regime change in Libya and Syria by sponsoring local militants. In Russia, President Putin accused the US of instigating the opponents of United Russia; in China, it used India to ferment trouble in Xinjiang, Tibet etc. All this is unifying the alliance of Heartland powers Russia-China and Rimland state actors Iran-Pakistan into anti-US-Nato alliance. But the events are moving too fast! The Mayan Prophesy of 2012 as a ‘catastrophic year’ approaches. The US-Nato-India clash with Pakistan or US-Nato-Israel clash with Iran will lead by default or design to a multi-regional war.

This perhaps should be in the stupid and funny pictures section. 2012 Mayan calender? Really?

As far as the SCO is concerned, it's too early to conclude anything.

The combined geopolitical space of Pakistan-Afghanistan-Iran-Iraq backed by Russia-China is beyond the US-Nato reach. A war against Iran could be catastrophic, but against Pakistan it could be dooms day! In fact, a war against Pakistan is very complicated plus suicidal!

Quoted from Zaid Hamidi.

Firstly, Pakistan is neither threatening, nor attacking anybody. It is on high moral ground, despite USA’s propaganda about the security of its nuclear arsenal.

Define 'moral high ground'.

Secondly, Pakistan will defend itself at any level - sub conventional (asymmetrical), conventional (armed forces), above conventional (nuclear –WMD).

Probable against India. But against US? Not a chance...

Thirdly, Pakistanis are united to defend the motherland and fight the foreign invaders. The people and political parties want an end to the Afghan war and peace in Pakistan.

Erm...okay...

Fourthly, Iran, China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Russia will support Pakistan, despite diverse strategic interests.

Iran is an unusual stakeholder in the world of geopolitics.

China merely looks after its own interests. Same could be said about KSA, although a bit of a US lapdog (I don't see them going against the US).

Turkey is a member of NATO.

Russia will support Pakistan and American will support India? Erm...kinda of an extreme statement.

Anyhow, the Muslim world would revolt as war with Iran and Pakistan becomes apparent. The initiators of the attack will be burnt by the flames they help ignite themselves (albeit radioactive fires).

Well, in case the author didn't know, the Americans can do that too. Albeit, ten-fold.

Geopolitics of peace is the solution: The US-Nato must relent on Afghanistan; of course, no war with Iran and no interference in Balochistan. The alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

Besides the innocent people of Iran and Pakistan, the people in Europe and USA are being duped by the neocons and globalists. Shocked when the bastion of capitalism, Wall Street came under siege and fearing rapid collapse, war abroad is their illogical choice. Even in Israel, half of the population is against the war. Overall, the good Jewish people, with their historical sense of survival seek peace and security. Pakistan is not anti-Semitic at all, but has deep sympathy with the people in Palestine. Indeed, peace in the Middle East would be welcome to all. The globalists, however, are adamant to drive the ‘American Titanic’ into the global iceberg. But this war will be self-defeating for all!

I really doubt if the US would be willing to send boots to another country. Unless of-course the threat is significant.

A new paradigm shift is needed, rather than beating the drums of war. The Russians have played a great role to deter the US war hawks, aided by the peace-loving Chinese. The Germans and other anti-war Europeans, besides sane people in the US must join hands to abort this global conflagration.

Flattery.

Russia’s key role in global peace, security for Israel, no attack on Iran, establishment of the Palestine state, US-Nato exodus from Afghanistan, no interference in Balochistan, return of Kashmir to Pakistan, US-China amity, all have to be part of the geopolitical peacemaking and war avoidance. Indeed, the alternative global nuclear war is too apocalyptic to contemplate.

Ooohhh...that's a hard one.

The writer is a retired Brigadier of the Pakistan Army and is the author of the book 'Gwadar on the Global Chessboard'

AKA Zaid Hamidi

A rather poorly written piece I'd say. Author appears to have trouble juggling too many issues all at once.

 

[Moazam Khan]

above part...............yawnnnnnnnnnnnn...............


pakistan has attacked India many times.........sadly they only gained defeat.............
Osama was found in pakistan..............pakistani govt. has accepted that mumbai attack was launched from its soil..........there goes high moral grounds.


how Pakistan gonna attack USA?
lol.........Thats zaid hamid talking.............give me 4 hourses ..........i will give you washington...........lol.


Everyone in Pakistan knows ( even Supreme court) that Baloachistan is going through troubled times..............and there goes the unity.............House needs to be set in order before taking on a hyperpower like USA .......



Iran and saudia arabia together..............oh man...........the author have a sense of humor..............and Russia supporting Pakistan......................Plz Plz Plz Plz Plz ......wake up author..........Russia is still a best buddy of India..........and thats not gonna change for a century..............why in this world Russia will help a country that takes pride in destroying it ( division of USSR)
Turkey is part of Nato.............Where ever USA goes .........Nato follows.



P.S. ...............Saudis will be the one who will help USA in war with Iran..................there cannot be a muslim world without Saudia arabia.....
lol...........seriously again.............how is Pakistan going to attack USA?
Pakistans missiles cannot reach USA


a litle correction...........Pakistan should stop interfering in Afghanistan.............clear his soil of terrorists and extremists............stop blaming fire in ur house to external powers ( wrt Baloch issuse).......stop sponsring terrorism in India...........give Kashmir to India and make peace


and people wonder why Pakistani establishments including army ....continue to make mistakes.............a brigadier ranked officer is high

Some body give him water please .. Stop saber-rattling and prove yourself my mate

 

[A.Muqeet khan]

The US acts on her own interests, why would we let turkey drag us into a pointlrss war? What would we gain?

Turkish troops in Afghanistan. Freer NATO naval access to the Black Sea to bolster Ukrainian and Georgian morale. Turkish help for Georgia. A pro-U.S. Turkish flanking threat to distract Iran. Ditto Syria. The continued flow of non-Arab, non-Russian oil from Azerbaijan to the world. Increased U.S.-friendly Turkish influence in Central Asia's Turkic states to counteract Russian and Iranian influence (remember those U.S. bases?). A secular Muslim buffer in the region against Islamization. AND most important thing it will the battle front agaisnt the russian forces in syria

 

[Zabaniyah]

Turkish troops in Afghanistan. Freer NATO naval access to the Black Sea to bolster Ukrainian and Georgian morale. Turkish help for Georgia. A pro-U.S. Turkish flanking threat to distract Iran. Ditto Syria. The continued flow of non-Arab, non-Russian oil from Azerbaijan to the world. Increased U.S.-friendly Turkish influence in Central Asia's Turkic states to counteract Russian and Iranian influence (remember those U.S. bases?). A secular Muslim buffer in the region against Islamization. AND most important thing it will the battle front agaisnt the russian forces in syria

Russians forces are in Syria?

 

[Prometheus]

Some body give him water please .. Stop saber-rattling and prove yourself my mate

no need..........i drink neat

 

[Moazam Khan]

no need..........i drink neat

buddy dont be hyper. It seems you have stupendous acumen. kindly use it and you will have the answers of your accusations yourself. Stop the blame game. Everybody knows who is expediting TTP and fostering indoctrination camps in Balochistan and if ISI is hindering in your ill will of creating hegemony in Afghanistan, it is all but natural .

 

[isro2222]

Nobody can stop world war 3.... However it will be more of cold war then world war.... Reptilians already backing america and also china (they playing with both nations).... Russia had nuclear weapons at the time of cold war yet russia lost (soviet union).... That pushed russia back. Same tactics will be done to china. America know strong china wont be good to anyone.... The war will be won by america and china will be pushed back few years.... Russia will help china by giving weapons but russia wont join war and so do india. But russia will support china (not directly) and india will support america (not directly).... Golden age coming on 21st december. indeed new world order will be set by cold war.... Most countries which are supported by reptilians will be in spot light in cold war.... Specialy america, china, turkey, pakistan, iran etc etc will be most effected by it.... India will slightly damaged but mostly will be safe (as india is most spiritual nation who believes in Gods and its big resource of positive energy for humanoids).... Humanoids too will play big role in war. More earthquakes and tsunami u will see.... Couple of years ago japan warned world by saying aliens took over their sea.... Humanoids destroyed Reptilians base under sea by pulse beam but it created huge tsunami that took many peoples life in japan.... Same thing will happened. Humanoids won't favor any nation because now humanoids knew that population has to reduced after they warned humans and humans ignored them.... Humanoids big job is to make sure negative energy country population has to be reduced so reptilians wont get much of negative energy.... 2012 to 2015 is very important for humans. Its a age of change and war and then peace.... Golden is superior age. Its a age of mircales and it will last over 5000 years....

 

[Moazam Khan]

Nobody can stop world war 3.... However it will be more of cold war then world war.... Reptilians already backing america and also china (they playing with both nations).... Russia had nuclear weapons at the time of cold war yet russia lost (soviet union).... That pushed russia back. Same tactics will be done to china. America know strong china wont be good to anyone.... The war will be won by america and china will be pushed back few years.... Russia will help china by giving weapons but russia wont join war and so do india. But russia will support china (not directly) and india will support america (not directly).... Golden age coming on 21st december. indeed new world order will be set by cold war.... Most countries which are supported by reptilians will be in spot light in cold war.... Specialy america, china, turkey, pakistan, iran etc etc will be most effected by it.... India will slightly damaged but mostly will be safe (as india is most spiritual nation who believes in Gods and its big resource of positive energy for humanoids).... Humanoids too will play big role in war. More earthquakes and tsunami u will see.... Couple of years ago japan warned world by saying aliens took over their sea.... Humanoids destroyed Reptilians base under sea by pulse beam but it created huge tsunami that took many peoples life in japan.... Same thing will happened. Humanoids won't favor any nation because now humanoids knew that population has to reduced after they warned humans and humans ignored them.... Humanoids big job is to make sure negative energy country population has to be reduced so reptilians wont get much of negative energy.... 2012 to 2015 is very important for humans. Its a age of change and war and then peace.... Golden is superior age. Its a age of mircales and it will last over 5000 years....

INDIA WILL SUPPORT US????? You made my day

by the way when did you completed your 40 years 'Tapasaya' ???

 

[killerx]

the WW3 would be a total mess no one on others side

 

[Imran Khan]

No one begs to live. Bring it on.

if your heart broken by your GF go die alone

 

[Barrack-Obummer]

INDIA WILL SUPPORT US????? You made my day

by the way when did you completed your 40 years 'Tapasaya' ???

They will. America and India have very similar goals and ideas. Plus India knows we are no threat to them, they aren't certain about China however.

 

[Moazam Khan]

They will. America and India have very similar goals and ideas. Plus India knows we are no threat to them, they aren't certain about China however.

Dear bear this fact in mind that invading Asia will be a catastrophe because it will eventually lead to a nuclear war as Russia and China will never tolerate the hegemony of US as they them self are emerging super powers. So there will be no surreptitious support by any one. It will be an audacious rather a war of ' mutual assured destruction'.

 

[manofwar]

Now I wish I was a ****roach......
That's the only way, I'll live through this one...