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On camera surgical strikes

It is not up for the countries to deny the strikes, its upto the media which visited the sites. Washington Post, WSJ, BBC, CNN and AlJazeera visited the sites , talked to locals and UN monitoring group on both sides of LOC refused to acknowledge the reality of such an incident and echoed Pak's assertion. Even US State Dept refused to comment on that. This would be one big joke in international strategic circles in the coming years.
Media reports mean nothing unless backed by proof. None of the so called reports had any. Heck, don't forget the Pakistani farce on German reporting. That was media too. Proved to be false! Where are the scores of Indian soldier bodies in Pakistan?
 
A country that was defeated with one half separated along with 90,000 prisoners of war knows very well what it means to fight India. Please don't ask such silly questions.

When you fought us on mainland, you were decimated in 1965, 1971 was a land 2000km away from our mainland , surrounded 3 sides by you, where supplies had to be sent via srilanka. You exploited the intense insurgency already going on in a distant land. What happened to US in Vietnam insurgency, imagine on top of that another country invaded.
 
When you fought us on mainland, you were decimated in 1965, 1971 was a land 2000km away from our mainland , surrounded 3 sides by you, where supplies had to be sent via srilanka. You exploited the intense insurgency already going on in a distant land. What happened to US in Vietnam insurgency, imagine on top of that another country invaded.
Let's not go down that road. Engage me on the relevant thread and we can continue. Fact is Pakistan has lost all it's wars and incapable of retaliation.
 
Media reports mean nothing unless backed by proof. None of the so called reports had any. Heck, don't forget the Pakistani farce on German reporting. That was media too. Proved to be false! Where are the scores of Indian soldier bodies in Pakistan?

International media is neutral, I know you're too brainwashed thus believing fantasies of Indian media over international one, this shows how illogical is your assumption. Which bodies mate, ISPR's official statement says 2 Pakistani soldiers lost their lives in cross border firing,Pakistan doesn't create fiction there are no bodies of Indians inside Pakistan. The claims of Indians getting killed on Indian side of LOC were coming from unofficial twitter accounts of journalists, ISPR or Pak govt never claimed that. Nor has ever Pakistan or India claimed officially killing each others soldiers in skirmishes, this shows you aren't even aware of recent happenings.

Let's not go down that road. Engage me on the relevant thread and we can continue. Fact is Pakistan has lost all it's wars and incapable of retaliation.

You're free to believe what ever you want, Pak Army has proven itself in 1965 and the world back then and now knows it who is capable of retaliation and who is not, as said before there can be no retaliation to an event which never happened, once it happens you would know. Pakistan believes in reciprocity principle, you violated 2003 ceasefire agreement, Pakistan retaliated in the same coin using the same caliber to fire on your positions they way you did on Sept 29 and after that till today. Pakistan's response would be measured and similar in terms of magnitude to the aggression commited.
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Let's not go down that road. Engage me on the relevant thread and we can continue. Fact is Pakistan has lost all it's wars and incapable of retaliation.


Where was indian military retaliation after mumbai 2008? india is at least 7 times bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons systems yet were still powerless to do anything to us :azn:

International media is neutral, I know you're too brainwashed thus believing fantasies of Indian media over international one, this shows how illogical is your assumption. Which bodies mate, ISPR's official statement says 2 Pakistani soldiers lost their lives in cross border firing,Pakistan doesn't create fiction there are no bodies of Indians inside Pakistan. The claims of Indians getting killed on Indian side of LOC were coming from unofficial twitter accounts of journalists, ISPR or Pak govt never claimed that. Nor has ever Pakistan or India claimed officially killing each others soldiers in skirmishes, this shows you aren't even aware of recent happenings.



You're free to believe what ever you want, Pak Army has proven itself in 1965 and the world back then and now knows it who is capable of retaliation and who is not, as said before there can be no retaliation to an event which never happened, once it happens you would know. Pakistan believes in reciprocity principle, you violated 2003 ceasefire agreement, Pakistan retaliated in the same coin using the same caliber to fire on your positions they way you did on Sept 29 and after that till today. Pakistan's response would be measured and similar in terms of magnitude to the aggression commited.
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That too when the enemy is at least 7 times bigger than us and has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons systems whilst we are denied this. That is unprecedented in all human history.
 
Where was indian military retaliation after mumbai 2008? india is at least 7 times bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons systems yet were still powerless to do anything to us :azn:

India does not employ brute force every time. India's diplomatic juggernaut was a far better reply which has left you reeling..even now.

International media is neutral, I know you're too brainwashed thus believing fantasies of Indian media over international one, this shows how illogical is your assumption. Which bodies mate, ISPR's official statement says 2 Pakistani soldiers lost their lives in cross border firing,Pakistan doesn't create fiction there are no bodies of Indians inside Pakistan. The claims of Indians getting killed on Indian side of LOC were coming from unofficial twitter accounts of journalists, ISPR or Pak govt never claimed that. Nor has ever Pakistan or India claimed officially killing each others soldiers in skirmishes, this shows you aren't even aware of recent happenings.



You're free to believe what ever you want, Pak Army has proven itself in 1965 and the world back then and now knows it who is capable of retaliation and who is not, as said before there can be no retaliation to an event which never happened, once it happens you would know. Pakistan believes in reciprocity principle, you violated 2003 ceasefire agreement, Pakistan retaliated in the same coin using the same caliber to fire on your positions they way you did on Sept 29 and after that till today. Pakistan's response would be measured and similar in terms of magnitude to the aggression commited.

I only believe your own military personnel.
 
Yaar ab toh bore hogaye hum app ko strike say next time achi bollywood banna dayna nargis keh dance keh sath...
 
Where was indian military retaliation after mumbai 2008? india is at least 7 times bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons systems yet were still powerless to do anything to us :azn:

2002 and 2008 standoff was an embarrassment for them. The rightwing cohort in office in Delhi had increased the hopes of people especially the middle class so much, they had to do this drama to for political survival , unfortunately it was a domestic and international embarrassment for them. In the age of media, you can't lie and make such tall claims which cant even be considered part of religious mythology. From within India, the opposition is making fun of the surgical strikes claim, it is funny some Indian members are claiming an invisible incident which even their countrymen are making fun of.
 
India does not employ brute force every time. India's diplomatic juggernaut was a far better reply which has left you reeling..even now.



I only believe your own military personnel.


Really???????........with the onset and successful initiation of CPEC and other less mentions programs, Pakistan has probably never been in better shape and is becoming more powerful everyday. NOT to mention the fact that Pakistan has since early 2011 had the ability to produce Fusion bombs, H-bombs and thermonuclear weapons:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/

Is the above the REAL reason why india can no longer militarily do anything to Pakistan?

With billions more set for investment in Pakistan by China, the future looks very bright for Pakistan, no matter what anyone says or does.

2002 and 2008 standoff was an embarrassment for them. The rightwing cohort in office in Delhi had increased the hopes of people especially the middle class so much, they had to do this drama to for political survival , unfortunately it was a domestic and international embarrassment for them. In the age of media, you can't lie and make such tall claims which cant even be considered part of religious mythology. From within India, the opposition is making fun of the surgical strikes claim, it is funny some Indian members are claiming an invisible incident which even their countrymen are making fun of.


Below is the REAL reason why india can no longer do anything to Pakistan militarily:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/
 
India does not employ brute force every time. India's diplomatic juggernaut was a far better reply which has left you reeling..even now.



I only believe your own military personnel.

Please show me where did he say Pakistan lost 1965 war, he didn't say it even once, is lying a national sport
in India. Here is what Captain Arminder Singh, CM of Indian Punjab has to say about 1965 war, such was the panic
in your high command that you were planning to withdraw from Punjab in its entirety , lol


Another tale of bravery

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Great Read.

Please show me where did he say Pakistan lost 1965 war, he didn't say it even once, is lying a national sport
in India. Here is what Captain Arminder Singh, CM of Indian Punjab has to say about 1965 war, such was the panic
in your high command that you were planning to withdraw from Punjab in its entirety , lol


Another tale of bravery

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You know that...
"never underestimate stupid people in larger numbers" so lesson is dont answer trolls and that shear size is of forces is real issue.. plus we don't know that how much kashmiri are ready. and lastly, leadership is not clear as was in 80s when Benzair was asked by China how much Kashmir is important to you (the question was referred to Hamid Gul but benzair replied) "" we want Kashmir but not over Pakistan"


Thanks you for the elaborate answer, when it can be all summed up into a one liner.

"You are not sure about Kashmiri mindset and therefore you are afraid of defeat." Simple :-)
 
well a friend of mine works in PA now at border area in Kashmir told me that what happened that night.
According to him: PA was on alert on border areas,Indian army did came in but on foot no helis used,they came to destroy our posts but few jawans who were posted in front posts spotted them they were near almost 150- 200 meter far from our posts when we opened fire.two of our jawan martyred 8 soldiers on Indian side have casualties where my friend was posted which were visible in day light also.rest of casualties on Indian side he said figure is 13-18 approx ,he future told morale of PA jawans so much boosted after that.
 
Where was indian military retaliation after mumbai 2008? india is at least 7 times bigger than Pakistan and has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons systems yet were still powerless to do anything to us :azn:




That too when the enemy is at least 7 times bigger than us and has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons systems whilst we are denied this. That is unprecedented in all human history.


Every time Pakistan army went for a direct confrontation, Indian forces had replied proportionately (1947-48, 1965, 1971 and 1999 are all classic example.

Well 2008 was never a direct military confrontation. It was an indirect attack using proxy, and why do you expect a direct reply from India in that case ??

You should rather expect a reply in kind. :)
 
Every time Pakistan army went for a direct confrontation Indian forces had replied proportionately (1947-48, 1965, 1971 and 1999 are all classic example.

Well 2008 was never a direct military confrontation. It was an indirect attack using proxy, and why do you expect a direct reply from India in that case ??

You should rather expect a reply in kind. :)



Lol......If Pakistan was weak, india would have attacked us directly. The fact of the matter is unlike the other South Asian nations, India does NOT have the capability to attack us because:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/

The above is a painful reality of our enemies

:azn:
 

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