Old Bangla Photos

[third eye]

The Bengal Army was the army of the Presidency of Bengal, one of the three Presidencies of British India. Although based in Bengal in eastern India, the presidency stretched across northern India and the Himalayas all the way to the North West Frontier Province (now the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa). The Bengal Army included some of the most famous units in India: Skinner's Horse from Bengal, the Gurkhas from the Himalayas and the Corps of Guides on the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.

The Presidency armies, like the presidencies themselves, belonged to the East India Company until the Government of India Act 1858 (passed in the aftermath of the Indian Rebellion of 1857) transferred all three presidencies to the direct authority of the British Crown.

The Bengali presence in the Bengal Army was reduced in the late nineteenth century because of their perceived primary role as mutineers in the 1857 rebellion.

In 1903 all three presidency armies were merged into the Indian Army.

In the IA the Coprs of Engineers are still sub divided as Bengal Sappers, Madras sappers & Bombay Sappers.

 

[kobiraaz]

2 pakistani Sodiers in East Pakistan During 1971

Niazi visiting a Razakar Camp

Razakars in Dhaka

Muktis captured Razakars

Pakistani soldiers in East Pakistan

Hoisting Flag of Bangladesh

Khaled Mosharraf

AL SHAMS

 

[kobiraaz]

Two pro pak fighter captured by Muktis

pro pak speech

General Jacob and Niazi after 16th December

 

[third eye]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/general-images-multimedia/160458-images-past-dhaka.html

 

[asad71]

He is a Sikh Cavalryman from a Regiment of the Bengal Lancers.

This is not be mistaken for Bengal as we now know. Therefore placing this picture in Old Bangla Photos is out of context.

There existed three Presidencies - Bengal, Madras & Bombay which controlled different regions of India.

The Bengal Presidency controlled the North, Bombay - Central India & Madras - Southern India.

Regiments of Bengal Presidency mutinied in 1857 which then spread to the Central Parts of India.

There used to be Sikhs and Sikh units in the Bengal Army. Even many of the old Muslims would be bearded and wear turbans. The old timers in HK and Malaysia still call the local Sikhs as Bengalees!!

 

[asad71]

The Bengal Army was the army of the Presidency of Bengal, one of the three Presidencies of British India. Although based in Bengal in eastern India, the presidency stretched across northern India and the Himalayas all the way to the North West Frontier Province (now the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa). The Bengal Army included some of the most famous units in India: Skinner's Horse from Bengal, the Gurkhas from the Himalayas and the Corps of Guides on the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.

The Presidency armies, like the presidencies themselves, belonged to the East India Company until the Government of India Act 1858 (passed in the aftermath of the Indian Rebellion of 1857) transferred all three presidencies to the direct authority of the British Crown.

The Bengali presence in the Bengal Army was reduced in the late nineteenth century because of their perceived primary role as mutineers in the 1857 rebellion.

In 1903 all three presidency armies were merged into the Indian Army.

In the IA the Coprs of Engineers are still sub divided as Bengal Sappers, Madras sappers & Bombay Sappers.

1. After the Conspiracy of Palassy and later the Battle of Buxer, the English Co received substantial input in local manpower and resources from the Bengal Nawab's army. There was another large increase when Oudh Army was also integrated with the Co army.

2. The English/ British rulers had made Bengal their base of power from where they conquered SA, E Asia, Oceania, ME and Africa. The capital was Calcutta, the lower non-white bureaucracy was Bengalee and the army was Bengal Army. This army had soldiers from Muslim and Brahmin communities mostly. Sikh and Gurkha units were also brought in, but the Rajputs, Madrasis and Marathas were mostly in the armies of Madras and Bombay Presidencies.

3. After 1858 Bengalees were debarred from the army. This, along with the mischief of the Permanent Settlement Act, effectively transformed the Bengalee Muslims from an affluent/ruling/dominant lot into the poorest in the realm of the British. The effect of this was seen in the various Muslim uprisings like Faqir, Faraizi, Majnu, Titu Mir or their spontaneous involvement in the anti-British Jihad in the NW.

4. During WW I Muslim leaders of Bengal pressed the British to raise some Bengalee units. Two Bengalee Companies were raised. These were totally Muslim as the Hindu Bengalees are overwhelmingly Nomo Shudro / Kayostho / Low Cast. The first company was sent to Palestine and deployed against the Turks. Instantly the conscious Bengalee Muslims realized they had been pitted against the army of the Caliph in favor of whom Friday prayers. They refused to fight their Caliph and were shipped back to be disbanded. The other company was kept at Karachi all the duration of the war. Poet Nazrul was a Havildar in that Company.

 

[asad71]

aryan means noble. Anyway this topic has been discussed many times already

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I think maybe that oil was cheap that time or the heli was quite old, so cheaper flights. Btw have abyone noticed the northern parts do not have the services

Chopper service connected Dhaka to towns without airports. North had Lalmonirhat, Thakurgaon and Ishwardi PIA flights.

 

[Md Akmal]

AL SHAMS

@ I don't think these people are the members of Al Sams. The weapon they are carrying belongs to India or Indian origin. These are Indian LMG's and SLR (Self Loaded Rifle).

@ But again the man at uniform looks like Pakistani specially his laughing style. May be Pakistan Army armed them with captured weapons who knows !!!!!

 

[TopCat]

Looks Bihari to me... LOL

Cant say about the weapons though.

 

[Md Akmal]

pro pak speech

@ Can any body tell who is this man ???? I think "Khash" Behari with having "Do tho pan" in his mouth !!!!!!!!!

 

[TopCat]

Khaled Mosharraf

This guy actually participated in the war field and one of the most adored and genius sector commander and most Muktis wanted to work under him.

 

[Md Akmal]

General Jacob and Niazi after 16th December

@ I don't think it was after 16 Decemeber 1971. It was either before 16 December 1971 or before surrender inside the Dacca Cantonment where Niazi is entertaining them with Chicken " Tikka". Point to note leniard of the pistle is visible.

@ Chicken " Tikka" was very favourate for General Niazi !!!!!!!

 

[asad71]

@ I don't think these people are the members of Al Sams. The weapon they are carrying belongs to India or Indian origin. These are Indian LMG's and SLR (Self Loaded Rifle).

@ But again the man at uniform looks like Pakistani specially his laughing style. May be Pakistan Army armed them with captured weapons who knows !!!!!

PA would be having a stock of Indian weapons captured in '65 War.

 

[asad71]

@ I don't think these people are the members of Al Sams. The weapon they are carrying belongs to India or Indian origin. These are Indian LMG's and SLR (Self Loaded Rifle).

@ But again the man at uniform looks like Pakistani specially his laughing style. May be Pakistan Army armed them with captured weapons who knows !!!!!

PA would be having a stock of Indian weapons captured in '65 War.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

^^^

Just looking at some 1971 photographs I noticed there was mention of Yahya Khan and ZAB. Just want to correct people here about Yahya. He was a Punjabi born in Chakval but his ancestors were Kizilbash Persians. He was not Hazara as in the Persian [Farsi] speaking Hazara minority in Quetta, Balochistan who are of Turkic/Kazak background.

Gen Musa Khan was a Hazara from Quetta who was Chief of Staff Pakistan Army but I believe he retired in 1969 so please don't blame the poor Hazara community.

There is no point in blaming a particular community in West Pakistan for 1971. The bald truth and possibly uncomfortable as well, is that it took more than a few men for 1971 to happen. The fact is West Pakistani political, industrial, landed, bureaucratic, military elite as a whole was involved. At another level you can see there wre no demonstrations on the streets about what was happening in East Pakistan.

The failure and blame is difuse and it is nothing less than a mockery to find convenient scapegoats today. West Pakistan as whole was responsible like today Pakistan as a whole is responsible in the genocide of the Hazara that is on going right now. Do you see any demonstrations in Lahore, Karachi etc

Bias and prejudice are the reasons for no action and the same was in 1971.