Featured "OIC recognises that Jammu and Kashmir is the core dispute between Pakistan and India" - 47th Session of OIC Council of Foreign Ministers

[TNT]

Everything is PTI's fault. PTI is like Jews these days. Blame everything on them.

Who else runs the foreign ministry? U forgot IK speeches that the rulers are responsible for everything?

 

[Pakistansdefender]

What will this resolution achieve? Most probably nothing. So why OIC denied first and damaged relations? Why Pakistan insisted and made it an issue and damaged relations?
I see this whole OIC foreign minister issue as diplomatic failure of PTI. imran khan worked hard to gain support of UAE and GCC again and stupid foreign minister shah mehmood made a blunder. He is emotional and unreliable as a foreign minister and i wonder why is he not replaced. Asad umar can be a great FM.

Wh

What will this resolution achieve? Most probably nothing. So why OIC denied first and damaged relations? Why Pakistan insisted and made it an issue and damaged relations?
I see this whole OIC foreign minister issue as diplomatic failure of PTI. imran khan worked hard to gain support of UAE and GCC again and stupid foreign minister shah mehmood made a blunder. He is emotional and unreliable as a foreign minister and i wonder why is he not replaced. Asad umar can be a great FM.

I pity you bro. A stupud friend is more dangerous then a clever friend.
If shah mehmood made a blunder on his own, he would not be the fm next day.
It is state policy including army to call of saudi arabia. It is not only for kashmir. It is also for cpec. Saudis promised 20 billions dollars so pakistan to give them cpec projects. But nothing materialises even after 2 years.
Gawader refinary land is purchased, design built but saudis back out. There can be several reasons but saudis betray. They want us to stop cpec because they are american stooges and think pakistan is their stooge.
So that state by qureshi is telling saudis you can lecture us about china anymore. You have offered nothing.
And kashmir was the backdrop.
Imran khan dont want this.
But it was decided by the state including army and so pti bravely go ahead with it. It is very risky thing. As you can see pdm was proped up in days.
But well whats done is done.

 

[TNT]

Wh
I pity you bro. A stupud friend is more dangerous then a clever friend.
If shah mehmood made a blunder on his own, he would not be the fm next day.
It is state policy including army to call of saudi arabia. It is not only for kashmir. It is also for cpec. Saudis promised 20 billions dollars so pakistan to give them cpec projects. But nothing materialises even after 2 years.
Gawader refinary land is purchased, design built but saudis back out. There can be several reasons but saudis betray. They want us to stop cpec because they are american stooges and think pakistan is their stooge.
So that state by qureshi is telling saudis you can lecture us about china anymore. You have offered nothing.
And kashmir was the backdrop.
Imran khan dont want this.
But it was decided by the state including army and so pti bravely go ahead with it. It is very risky thing. As you can see pdm was proped up in days.
But well whats done is done.

I was referring to how this specific issue played on diplomatic level. Behind the scenes there are many things that alarmed and frustrated Pakistan, some of which u mentioned. But still this does not mean we damage relations so quickly that were built in decades. The gulf is also friendly with china and will improve relations and would not want to anger china by damaging cpec. They may have delayed spending but thats understandable given the pandemic and their relationship with trump and india. Now with democrats, they will face tough situation and will move to support BRI and CPEC. We should have forseen this and avoided public poisoning of relations.

 

[graphican]

What will this resolution achieve? Most probably nothing. So why OIC denied first and damaged relations? Why Pakistan insisted and made it an issue and damaged relations?
I see this whole OIC foreign minister issue as diplomatic failure of PTI. imran khan worked hard to gain support of UAE and GCC again and stupid foreign minister shah mehmood made a blunder. He is emotional and unreliable as a foreign minister and i wonder why is he not replaced. Asad umar can be a great FM.

When Shah Mehmood spoke, it was the state speaking, or he would've been removed by now.

 

[waz]

Welcome news by the looks of it.
The Saudis seem to be on this now.
Bottom line is Pakistan needs to boom and become a huge economy (God willing). It's not good just relying on ties, you need clout.

 

[Black.Mamba]

Welcome news by the looks of it.
The Saudis seem to be on this now.
The bottom line is Pakistan needs to boom and become a huge economy (God willing). It's not good just relying on ties, you need clout.

We are on the right path, the damage done over the last 40 years will take some time to be wiped-out. Both the corrupt parties had appointed like-minded equally corrupt people in every possible government institute, those people will not let go of things easy as it is a matter of their survival and their dynasties as well. PTI, in general, was not experienced with all these dirty tricks initially and might not be even aware of how things are manipulated/delayed/discarded at the departmental levels, they learned from it and now we can see some progress. Just to put things into perspective, the new secretary of health was posted in Punjab while Nawaz Sharif was still in Jail, unlike what anyone else believes these regular postings are done by secretary establishment and chief secretary, the day I read the news I knew Sharif family will get a benefit one way or the other, that secretary health was a known Sharif loyalist and rest is history, we all saw what happened next, from fake reports to what not.

Similarly, the Saudis exactly understood how loyal this political elite is to their own nation that is why they started treating us(nation) like their own lapdogs, things were also going in their favor because of MBS/Kushner Duo. Now the change is knocking on their door and they are sane enough to see it that this Pakistan is not the same as that of Nawaz or Zardari, these small corrections and change of stance will be becoming more frequent in the months to come.

 

[GriffinsRule]

This is no news at all. Everyone in the world "recognizes" it's the core dispute since the last 50 years. OIC just stating a universally known fact is now a matter of debate.
Actions speak louder than words

 

[Black.Mamba]

Actually, the amount of money poor people of Pakistan spend on SMQ and Arif Alvi, we better buy armored vehicles for soldiers, which would prove more practical.

The amount of money poor people of Pakistan lost to the corrupt families of Sharifs and Zardaris, we could have bought individual armored vehicle for every solider

 

[BATMAN]

@El Sidd in your guess what' this U turn all about? I think OIC must have warned SMQ for misguiding the nation and the follow through propaganda on Urdu channels.

 

[Vapour]

Welcome news by the looks of it.
The Saudis seem to be on this now.
Bottom line is Pakistan needs to boom and become a huge economy (God willing). It's not good just relying on ties, you need clout.

Also clout heavily influences ties. If Pakistan did have a large economy for its size, atleast £1-2 trillion, it would be able to substitute Indian economic activity with regional countries either by undercutting or simply having better ties.

 

[Black.Mamba]

And when did you realized about the stated corruption? What's your plan to audit BRT and most recent wheat import?

I realized it after reading the chapters on PML N and PPP "Capitalism's Achilles Heel: Dirty Money and How to Renew the Free-Market System", I suggest you should do it as well https://www.amazon.com/Capitalisms-Achilles-Heel-Free-Market-System/dp/1119086612

 

[BATMAN]

I realized it after reading the chapters on PML N and PPP "Capitalism's Achilles Heel: Dirty Money and How to Renew the Free-Market System", I suggest you should do it as well https://www.amazon.com/Capitalisms-Achilles-Heel-Free-Market-System/dp/1119086612

Wait for 3 more years, there will be another book and than we can take both books to International court of justice, together.

 

[Black.Mamba]

Wait for 3 more years, there will be another book and than we can take both books to International court of justice, together.

Sorry to disappoint you but it is not in jurisdiction of ICJ, however you could have gone to royal court UK with a defamation suit against the Daily Mail for publishing "Penthouse pirates: How the mega-rich former prime minister of Pakistan and his sons have ploughed millions into London's swankiest addresses to amass a vast property empire" and after winning the case you could have bought all the armoured vehicles for the soldiers that you desire.
I am out, not going to feed the troll

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Are you suggesting, sale proceeds of one pent house can take Pakistan out of the debt, in which Imran Khan has thrown every citizen of country?
My vote is with you in next elections, and with statements like this you stand a chance to be our next PM.

this debit is IK gifts or Previous govts gifts, Please tell us??? did you forget former finance minster Ishaq Dar corruptions???

 

[Verve]

So where are the scum Indians now who were claiming that Kashmir was off the agenda of OIC?