OIC – 40 years of failure

[garibnawaz]

You just tell me first WHY India on earth wants to be Part of OIC?

Because India has third largest muslim population on earth.

Why Pakistan is objecting India's participation in OIC?

BecauseAlbania is a member so you have right to be a member of OIC?

What kind of statememnt is this?

I am questioning the qualification of being an OIC member. India has more muslims than most of the OIC members.

being Hindu Kashmiri does not mean they are Indians.

Pity.

Your so-called Jihadi's raped hindu women and killed Hindu men in valley which forced the hindus to flee from Kashmir.

GB

 

[Developereo]

Do you have any other source than this?

Albania "outlawed" religion in 1967 so it's probably hard to get people to admit their real religion. The Serb terror campaign against ethnic Albanians in Kosova was because they are Muslim.

Mozambique is a member of OIC...

Like I said, the 50% rule was on old rule. Obviously it was dropped some time ago.

I am questioning the qualification of being an OIC member. India has more muslims than most of the OIC members.

One of the rules states that no country with an ongoing dispute with an existing member can be granted membership. Doesn't mean it's applied equally in all cases but, if India wants to join OIC, it should make peace with Pakistan.

Your so-called Jihadi's raped hindu women and killed Hindu men in valley which forced the hindus to flee from Kashmir.

Brutality of Indian army in Kashmir is "legendary". In any case, there are plenty of threads on Kashmir and I don't want to derail this thread by bringing in Kashmir.

 

[jaunty]

Do you have any other source than this? My claim came from a US Govt. Source itself.

Albania

I think you made a mistake there. From the source you mentioned---

Section I. Religious Demography

The country has an area of 11,100 square miles, and a population of approximately 3.6 million. It had a largely homogeneous ethnic population, consisting of Ghegs in the north and Tosks in the south. The ethnic Greek communities, the largest minority group in the country, were located in the south. Other minorities included the Roma, the Egyptian community (an ethnic group similar to the Roma that does not speak the Roma language), Vlachs, and Macedonians.

The majority of citizens were secular in orientation after decades of rigidly enforced atheism under the communist regime, which ended in 1990. No reliable data were available on active participation in formal religious services, but estimates ranged from 25 to 40 percent. Despite such secularism, most citizens associated themselves with a traditional religious group. Citizens of Muslim background made up the largest traditional religious group (estimated at 65 to 70 percent of the population) and were divided into two major communities: those associated with a moderate form of Sunni Islam and those associated with the Bektashi school (a particularly liberal form of Shi'a Sufism)..........

 

[garibnawaz]

One of the rules states that no country with an ongoing dispute with an existing member can be granted membership. Doesn't mean it's applied equally in all cases but,

Iran-Iraq war.

Iranian dispute with Baharian and UAE.

Black September - Jordan V/S Palestine lead by Zia Ul Haq (then a brigadier).

Uzbek-Tajik dispute

To name few.

if India wants to join OIC, it should solve Kashmir.

Our solution is ready for last 60 years. Kashmir is ours.

Brutality of Indian army in Kashmir is "legendary". In any case, there are plenty of threads on Kashmir and I don't want to derail this thread by bringing in Kashmir.

I was referring to the argument that Kashmiri hindus are not Indians and Pakistanis.

I didnot bring Kashmir in the topic. Read my posts.

GB

 

[Developereo]

Iran-Iraq war.

Iranian dispute with Baharian and UAE.

Black September - Jordan V/S Palestine lead by Zia Ul Haq (then a brigadier).

Uzbek-Tajik dispute

To name few.

What part of "Doesn't mean it's applied equally in all cases" did you not understand?

 

[garibnawaz]

What part of "Doesn't mean it's applied equally in all cases" did you not understand?

I understood it however for the records I put those examples. I didn't argue on that point. I didn't say if them why not us.

Did I?

GB

P.S: - Be calm. You will get responses with sources/links without emotions/prejudice from me.

 

[batmannow]

I understood it however for the records I put those examples. I didn't argue on that point. I didn't say if them why not us.

Did I?

GB

P.S: - Be calm. You will get responses with sources/links without emotions/prejudice from me.

MAJOR, garibnawaz; sir!
just take your time, & enjoy the show!
dont try to mess with , peoples like GEN , JANA, she is a journalist by profession, & she is nasty! she will break down , your argument step by step, & at some point, you will be singing her song!
btw OIC , is a muslim countries organization, INDIA is a vastly "HINDU" country , i guss that the reason behind , that they cant get accsess in to the organizaion!

 

[Spring Onion]

Because India has third largest muslim population on earth.

So ? Are you joining OIC to get rights for third largest Muslim Population of the world in India ?

What is exactly your objective to join OIC despite rejection by the organisation??

Why Pakistan is objecting India's participation in OIC?

Because you are only trying to sneak in to spread propaganda against Pakistan, besides with largest Muslim Indian population being discriminated by India hence we see no real motive behind Indian demand to be included in OIC on the basis of having more Muslims, when the same Muslims are being discriminated in India.

What kind of statememnt is this?

I am questioning the qualification of being an OIC member. India has more muslims than most of the OIC members.

You can not claim same on the basis of this questioning. The only body that can decided and have the right righfully to allow anyone in or out, is OIC not any Indian or India or qualification.

 

[Zee-Gen]

Garibnawaz....

None of these countries u mentioned above are involved in killing of Muslims and occupying their land…..that is why India is not in OIC.....now stick to the topic, which is about OIC performance

 

[arihant]

Garibnawaz....

None of these countries u mentioned above are involved in killing of Muslims and occupying their land…..that is why India is not in OIC.....now stick to the topic, which is about OIC performance

Yeh... Who is killing people in the recent blast.

 

[EjazR]

@Jana

Why do countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt Iran Turkey support India to join OIC atleast as an Observer like Russia or China but Pakistan?

Shouldn't you allow and Indian Muslim to state their case before you decide what is happening to Indian muslims in India rather than drawing your own rather extreme conclusions.

And even in J&K, there is a pretty good section of muslims who are pro Indian. I know its hard to swallow for some people but this is a fact, particulalry muslims from Jammy and Ladakh.

 

[Spring Onion]

@Jana

Why do countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt Iran Turkey support India to join OIC atleast as an Observer like Russia or China but Pakistan?

Because we know your motive behind joining OIC despite terming it a useless organisation. Its non-other than propogating against Pakistan.

Of if you can give me any solid reason why India wants to Join OIC on the basis of having a large section of Muslims??

Shouldn't you allow and Indian Muslim to state their case before you decide what is happening to Indian muslims in India rather than drawing your own rather extreme conclusions.

Do you want me to post attrocities against Indian Muslims in the wake of Babri Mosque?, Gujrat, their current siatution where they are still not considred as Indians ?

And if you talk about Shah Rukh Khan and so on the movie stars and politicians then well it does not justify that common Indian Muslims are not discriminated heavily.

The bottom line is that Indian claim to get into OIC because it has more Muslims and it wants to join OIC for bettement of these Muslims then its a false claim and hold no justification to join OIC.

And even in J&K, there is a pretty good section of muslims who are pro Indian. I know its hard to swallow for some people but this is a fact, particulalry muslims from Jammy and Ladakh.

being pro-India and being an Indian two different things.

 

[EjazR]

^^Again India is not asking/wanting to join OIC, so there goes that fantasy. From my perspective there is no need to join OIC, and because India represents a total of 15% of the global Muslim population how can it be ignored. I think this is precisely why it has been a failure.
There is a whole thread discussing Indian muslims, and you can get your answers there.

I think to be Indian, you first have to be pro-Indian, you can think otherwise

 

[Spring Onion]

^^Again India is not asking/wanting to join OIC, so there goes that fantasy. From my perspective there is no need to join OIC, and because India represents a total of 15% of the global Muslim population how can it be ignored. I think this is precisely why it has been a failure.
There is a whole thread discussing Indian muslims, and you can get your answers there.

I think to be Indian, you first have to be pro-Indian, you can think otherwise

you say India or Indians dont want to join OIC then why again and again give a weak basis for trying to force down the notion that you should be given membership as you said again

"because India represents a total of 15% of the global Muslim population how can it be ignored."

I still fail to See why India would want to Join OIC? any solid reason instead of claiming to join for Indian Muslims, as that is a weak statement.

And Are you saying isnt all those deprived Indian Muslims, thinking as Indian ?

 

[Goodperson]

Forget inclusion of India OIC was always a failure.