Oh India!

[Hellfire]

Thanks for the tag.

Always welcome and high time you got back into the threads.

@Rain Man @PARIKRAMA @Spectre @jbgt90 @-xXx- @MilSpec

 

[Imran Khan]

i think modi failed to understand difference between Kashmir and Gujarat .

people of gurat got kick on back and become strait and scared
people of kashmir as mush as tortured by gov they become more aggressive


its time for policy change

 

[Soumitra]

Thanks for the tag.

Ah look who is back. @Levina @Stephen Cohen @nick_indian @thesolar65 @Roybot @he-man @Spectre and others

Please someone ask him to visit his "farewell" thread to let him know what we feel about him. He has me on Ignore

 

[Grevion]

Thanks for the tag.

There he is!
Hey you grumpy old man.
Its about time you leave this insanity of never coming back. You know how negatively one sees India because of the usual bakhts rants on forum like these.

 

[Joe Shearer]

There he is!
Hey you grumpy old man.
Its about time you leave this insanity of leaving and never coming back. You know how negatively one sees India because of the usual bakhts rants on forum like these.

<grumpy old man?>

I read, I listen, and I am very happy. On matters where I can make a positive contribution, I do, through good friends who re-print my rubbish.

 

[Spectre]

<grumpy old man?>

I read, I listen, and I am very happy. On matters where I can make a positive contribution, I do, through good friends who re-print my rubbish.

but there is no banter and friviloity

 

[Soumitra]

You know how negatively one sees India because of the usual bakhts rants on forum like these.

Do you seriously want Pakistanis to think "Positively" for India. News Flash!!! that will happen only if we hand them over Kashmir. And THAT my dear is NOT going to happen.

Anything else - trade, CBMs, People to People Contact, Cricket etc is NOT going to change their outlook from Negative to Positive

 

[Joe Shearer]

but there is no banter and friviloity

A point. Perhaps a few months later.

 

[Spectre]

A point. Perhaps a few months later.

It's iffy! specially at such advanced age

 

[Salahuddin Ayubi]

The BJP government may as well giftwrap Kashmir and send it over to Pakistan. In unleashing fresh torture in the valley in this age and time, it has done no less. That is how bad a fanatic government is to a country’s assumed or real national interest. Since its inauguration, the Modi government has hardened the country’s position swiftly, only if moronically, and introduced ridiculous and unrealistic red lines treating legitimate actors like the Hurriyat as pariahs and shot itself repeatedly in the foot by weakening its allied government in Kashmir. And it just keeps getting better.

Sparring with Pakistan openly, getting provoked by statements from a country that it claims no longer is in its league and the use of pellet guns in close proximity of the victims resulting in casualties, disfigurements and permanent loss of sight, are only a few examples. The principle of torture, I read somewhere, is to ensure that the face of the victim is not attacked because compared to the rest of the body, it swells up readily, looks ugly and can easily be photographed. This then must have taken an uncanny amount of hatred for someone to commit this crime, not once, not twice but constantly for the past many weeks. And even if the state torture were to miraculously stop today, the damage is done. There exists enough evidence in the shape of fresh footage, case studies, bodies and souls to enrage more than a generation. You thought an innocent looking Burhan Wani was too much, imagine how a permanently blinded 14-year-old will look when she learns to walk and talk again. Of course India has tremendous soft power but like everything else, it has its limits. One particular limitation is that no amount of soft power can compensate for sheer and outrageous stupidity. Consider this. Like any other power with big ambitions, India has a plethora of assets strewn across the globe. The purpose of these embedded jewels is to build a case for Indian interests abroad. But these assets are now asked to indulge in such an obnoxious amount of propaganda, that too to hide some critical mistakes by their government, that their own capacity to sell the goods has been compromised and their cover, so to speak, is all but blown. This hasty, self-immolating, comic strip approach to policymaking is unheard of in a country ruled by generations of graceful and charming politicians. This is poor show even by the BJP’s own standards. Forget Vajpayee. Compared to Modi, hawks of the past like Advani and Sushma Swaraj look like towering giants of statesmanship. Pakistan can then lift its arms in ecstasy, look up at the sky in gratitude and shout hallelujah.

More to the point, let’s take Modi’s Balochistan and Gilgit-Baltistan faux pas for instance. The man evidently has absolutely no sense of perspective. The war in Balochistan is over. Whatever happened, happened there between 2004 and 2013. Today, an Indian serviceman by the name of Kulbushan Yadav sits like a ticking time bomb in Pakistani custody as evidence of Indian meddling. Now with economic windfalls in sight, it is no more an issue of fighting the authorities but of ensuring that the local population gets its due share. And Gilgit-Baltistan? What was he even thinking? The fact is that the world is witnessing the unprecedented hardening of the Indian state and society under Modi. When you have a prime minister who was barred from entering the civilised parts of the world only until a couple of years ago, his image management becomes a foreign policy goal in itself. Foreign policy compromises are then made for the sake of smiling selfies with world leaders to present him as a statesman. But Modi, a statesman? Yeah sure. And my white Persian cat can read and write books.

In recent months, hoping to gain more manoeuverability by its own standards, the Indian government has offered some huge concessions to the West by signing the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement. Such concessions, even under a half decent government, were enough to tip the scales in India’s favour. But not under Modi. Not during the brinkmanship days of Dr Strangeloves like Ajit Doval. I wonder why nobody forewarned the Indians about false prophets. And the problem now is they have no out. In this environment of war hysteria and fear, nobody will dare remove this government. By the time its term is over, irreparable damage would have been done to Indian state and society.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 10th, 2016.

Excellent read. Well written and bang on target!

 

[Hellfire]

i think modi failed to understand difference between Kashmir and Gujarat .

people of gurat got kick on back and become strait and scared
people of kashmir as mush as tortured by gov they become more aggressive


its time for policy change

Nothing like that. Few idiots have held valley hostage. They will be straightened out.

 

[freeskylord]

Solution is to separate Jammu and Ladakh as separate states and let them progress while keeping the valley under presidents rule. It won't necessarily mean a loss of an entire generation of Kashmir's if we handle it properly. We don't know whats going to happen next year, lets leave out the prediction of an entire decade..

useless idea.

we have already spent billion for Kashmiris. No more sympathies. Separating Kashmir from jammu means two CM. Anf a Kashmiri CM will do whathever he wants as he will be in complete majority. Either with Congress or single.

Let them cry, frustrate, destroy themselves. Good for Indian Army to keep practicing there.

Better to concentrate on Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Sikkim , Himachal and Uttaranchal There is a lot to develop!

Kashmir is a dead issue. We must not give too much attention.

 

[Joe Shearer]

It's iffy! specially at such advanced age

You bachchas will have to take your chances. We must dree our own weird.

 

[AugenBlick]

This new Kashmir policy is pretty neat .. and the butthurt in the OP is just too sweet.
With islamist going blind ... this ordeal is a wonderful treat!!!

 

[Spectre]

You bachchas will have to take your chances. We must dree our own weird.

Lang may yer lum reek.