Offensive video against British Pakistanis and Islam

[Vinod2070]

As expected, no one is countering the actual and very valid points raised by him, just labeling him "Islamophobe" and hoping that is enough.

For all those who claim a local conflict over a small parcel of land as "at the core of the single most critical conflict of our times", they need to see this.

Tarek Fatah speaks about the Balochistan Freedom Movement on SUN Television - YouTube

There are larger conflicts raging around the world. There was not even a Palestine before 1967 war when the West bank was with Jordan and Gaza with Egypt.

Palestine conflict is only a fig leaf for hiding their deeper hatreds for many. Of course some are open enough to say that Jews are wajib-uk-qatl not for Palestine but for just being there.

This primacy of Arab issues is because other Muslim converts implicitly accept being "second class Arabs" while the Arabs don't give a damn to non Arab issues of much bigger scale.

Again, not a single rejoinder to the points raised, just some labeling....

 

[Infinite]

As expected, no one is countering the actual and very valid points raised by him, just labeling him "Islamophobe" and hoping that is enough.

For all those who claim a local conflict over a small parcel of land as "at the core of the single most critical conflict of our times", they need to see this.

Tarek Fatah speaks about the Balochistan Freedom Movement on SUN Television - YouTube

There are larger conflicts raging around the world. There was not even a Palestine before 1967 war when the West bank was with Jordan and Gaza with Egypt.

Palestine conflict is only a fig leaf for hiding their deeper hatreds for many. Of course some are open enough to say that Jews are wajib-uk-qatl not for Palestine but for just being there.

This primacy of Arab issues is because other Muslim converts implicitly accept being "second class Arabs" while the Arabs don't give a damn to non Arab issues of much bigger scale.

Again, not a single rejoinder to the points raised, just some labeling....

Yeah we will listen to this clown Tarek Fateh who said Obama Administration has too many Islamist officials LOL.He is anti Islamic Bigot.

 

[Vinod2070]

Yeah we will listen to this clown Tarek Fateh who said Obama Administration has too many Islamist officials LOL.He is anti Islamic Bigot.

Again, listen to the OP video and this guy. They make some very valid factual points that are verifiable by anyone.

Labeling them Islamophobe or bigot may work for some of you, for others it means you don't have the arguments to counter them with facts.

 

[livingdead]

There are some good points being made in the video by the guy but I wont agree on the conclusion.
Honour killing is a ME and north Indian phenomena, not only muslim.
Sexual predator gangs could have been from any community, the fact that they were muslim and all from pakistan points to a coincidence that they knew each other. It could as well have been all Indians.
The other point conservatism in ME IS because of culture to a large extent.

I am not defending islam by the way, there are other sites like faithfreedom.org where people have done a better job (from a theological and moral perspective).

 

[Lonely Hermit]

You cannot deny that Europe is gripped with xenophobia. Check this site called Skadi Forum the sort of venom that they spew on outsiders is preety shocking. If europeans get influenced by these xenophobic we will be looking at another hollocaust.

 

[MilSpec]

Yes, but notice the Hindutva Indians also promote his message.

please go learn the meaning of hindutva first!!!!

 

[Vinod2070]

please go learn the meaning of hindutva first!!!!

Not sure what Hindutva has got to do with this thread anyway!

Wonder why they always need to bring in the religion of their ancestors in every thread.

Missing it much!

 

[Developereo]

please go learn the meaning of hindutva first!!!!

Hindutva is the Hindu nationalist/fundamentalist ideology espoused by some Indians here. It rejects the religion and culture of their largest minority as a "foreign" influence which must be purged.

They find common cause with other Islamophobes and promote their propaganda.

As in this thread.

 

[Vinod2070]

Islamophobia is a just a word, used by some apologists to tar everyone and avoid the issues staring them in the face.

Guess what, its utility is long past its due date. They are now trying to sell something that no one believes in.

Instead of replying to the relevant issues by the OP, it is back to Hindutva! That is all they know how to bash.

We all know why? We all understand the need.

 

[Developereo]

Again, not a single rejoinder to the points raised, just some labeling....

All the "points" have been addressed ad nauseum in other threads, Just because they get repeated by another attention seeker does not lend them any new legitimacy.

 

[Vinod2070]

All the "points" have been addressed ad nauseum in other threads, Just because they get repeated by another attention seeker does not lend them any new legitimacy.

Not seeing this response for the first time. Everything is addressed elsewhere.

Somewhere out there in the Ether!

And never seen that "address" in any meaningful way ever!

 

[Yeti]

Hindutva is the Hindu nationalist/fundamentalist ideology espoused by some Indians here. It rejects the religion and culture of their largest minority as a "foreign" influence which must be purged.

They find common cause with other Islamophobes and promote their propaganda.

As in this thread.

You have no idea at all

 

[Yeti]

Hindutva is the Hindu nationalist/fundamentalist ideology espoused by some Indians here. It rejects the religion and culture of their largest minority as a "foreign" influence which must be purged.

They find common cause with other Islamophobes and promote their propaganda.

As in this thread.

You have no idea at all

 

[Vinod2070]

Hindutva is the Hindu nationalist/fundamentalist ideology espoused by some Indians here. It rejects the religion and culture of their largest minority as a "foreign" influence which must be purged.

They find common cause with other Islamophobes and promote their propaganda.

As in this thread.

Don't you think that after the TNT and the creation of Pakistan and all that it entailed, you have lost any right to complain on this front?

You have no idea at all

That is OK. When they don't know about their own stuff, we can't expect any better.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

As expected, no one is countering the actual and very valid points raised by him, just labeling him "Islamophobe" and hoping that is enough.

YOU OR YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN
wont be as charitable when a video or post on the similar lines is post about Hindu rituals and faith, its treatment of lower cast people.

then you will cry why mods are allowing such threads to exist and allowed.


well count me out to close any similar threads with same amount of venom and spite towards Hindu religion. I hate to say it but I have to be fair here since I am not closing this thread which is clearly offensive and posted with that clear intent.