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Obsessive indian push to intrude and control Bangladesh defense forces

1) I understand that India is making military preparation to avoid a war, as you have put it. But, it is spending hundreds of billions of dollars worth of money instead of pursuing a diplomatic solution to all its problems with its neighbors. It even tried to control Tibet and the result is mistrust between two big nations, and a subsequent war.

Delhi govt is pursuing a policy that inflicts pain to common Indians by depriving them from an opportunity to build the country and also build their own lives. Investments in military should better be spent on social and economic welfare of a nation.

2) You are wrong in those information. Only rich moderately rich and middle class people from BD travel to India for treatment. 11 lakh of them visit India every year and they are certainly not without Passport, visa and money. Are you talking about those cow smugglers from both the countries?

Diplomatic solutions work only when you convince your arch enemies that military solution won't work. For that we need our military remain upgraded to modern day warfare. Rest of your post is not worth commenting.
 
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Diplomatic solutions work only when you convince your arch enemies that military solution won't work. For that we need our military remain upgraded to modern day warfare. Rest of your post is not worth commenting.
You seems to surface only on rainy season @Rain Man .Why?
 
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If what claim is true, India making an incursion into Bangladeshi waters would push Bangladesh further away from India. Hence this does not make any sense.
Judging by the pictures and the comments of bangladeshis here it looks like it's happening.
 
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Yup the magical forces plan 2030. By then SHW will have made them a complete vassal of India anyway, I doubt the Chinese will be keen to sell them anything that really matters...maybe an odd trinket here and there to play a few games with Indian RAW.

@That Guy @DESERT FIGHTER

Even trinket will make indian establishment and generals to spend sleepless night. indians are that kind of people. When these same indians chest thump, it reminds us visit to zoo would have been better amusement.
 
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Even trinket will make indian establishment and generals to spend sleepless night. indians are that kind of people. When these same indians chest thump, it reminds us visit to zoo would have been better amusement.

No one cares what you fantasize jamati. You are not even in BD, but have fled because of big bad evil RAW agent SHW out to get you :D
 
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could not come up with anything to hide indian obsession on Bangladesh? Here is another treat for you.
Being a Jamaati is a privilege because they are true patriots and even current chief justice is being called Jamati. They had been right all along about indian evil intentions that we see today. That is way indians hate Jamatis. Oh well, nothing change about amusement seeing zoo primate.
 
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Rain? Where??
June,July,August are the rainy season in BD and Eastern India.This months fall on Bengali monthes of Ashar, Shrabbon and Vadro.Plus,there is raining in BD and some what in west Bengal in the last few days due to influence of Cyclone Mora.
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@Rain Man is it you?:blink:
 
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June,July.August are rainy season in BD and Eastern India.This months fall on Bengali monthes of Ashar, Shrabbon and Vadro.Plus,there is raining in BD and some what in west Bengal in the last few days due to influence of Cyclone Mora.
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@Rain Man is it you?:blink:

That's an awesome pic!

No one cares what you fantasize jamati. You are not even in BD, but have fled because of big bad evil RAW agent SHW out to get you :D

This guy again....
 
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June,July,August are the rainy season in BD and Eastern India.This months fall on Bengali monthes of Ashar, Shrabbon and Vadro.Plus,there is raining in BD and some what in west Bengal in the last few days due to influence of Cyclone Mora.
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@Rain Man is it you?:blink:

I mostly remain banned here nowadays, and in the meantime developed a taste for other forums and some large facebook groups.
 
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Rain Man
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QUOTE "Kolkata is rightfully with India, in fact Chittagong, Khulna and Rangpur should have been with India too. CHT's case is the most unfortunate one". UNQUOTE

That's precisely why Indian RAW has created a so called organisation termed as "SWADIN BANGABHUMI", with its base in Kolkata, also have been arming,harboring,financing and aiding the terrorists in Chittagong Hill Tracts, sowing the seeds of hatred, creating an artificial divide the among the Religious minorities in Bangladesh . Many thanks for exposing your hidden evil agendas.
 
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Bangladeshi Insurgents Say India Is Supporting Them
By SANJOY HAZARIKA, Special to The New York Times
Published: June 11, 1989

AGARTALA, India—
For more than a decade, India has secretly provided arms and money to tribal insurgents fighting for an autonomous state in Bangladesh, rebels given sanctuary in this border area say.

A senior security official here confirmed the assistance and said an undetermined number of rebel fighters had stayed along the border near camps of Indian paramilitary forces.

''The Government is giving them help,'' the official added, without elaborating.

The rebels, who are mostly Buddhists, belong to the Chakma and other tribes in the Chittagong Hills of Bangladesh. They say they are being persecuted and pushed off their fertile land by an influx of ethnic Bengali Bangladeshis, who are overwhelmingly Muslim. Elections Are Planned

President H. M. Ershad of Bangladesh is planning to hold elections on June 25 to give some local autonomy to the Chittagong Hill Tracts, but the Shanti Bahini, the guerrilla organization fighting the Government, has called for a boycott of the vote and declared it will disrupt balloting.

A spokesman for the rebels said Indian officials began to provide arms and money in 1976, after the assassination in a military coup of Sheik Mujibur Rahman, Bangladesh's first President and a friend of India.

The spokesman, Bimal Chakma, said the Indian Government had not given as many weapons as were needed. ''At the beginning we got some consideration, but it is very low compared with what we need.''

The Shanti Bahini has an estimated 500 guerrillas. Over the years, the insurgents have increased their armory by capturing weapons through raids on Bangladesh military units. The rebels in the Chittagong Hill Tracts also picked up large caches of Chinese semi-automatic weapons during the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war. Past Help for Pakistani Rebels

India also armed, trained and financed ethnic Bengali rebels seeking to break away from Pakistan, of which Bangladesh, then East Pakistan, was a part. The guerrilla attacks escalated into a war between India and Pakistan in 1971 after 10 million people fled military atrocities into India. Pakistani troops were routed and Bangladesh was created.

The Shanti Bahini, which means peace corps in the Bengali language, was formed in 1972 after a rejection of demands for autonomy, preferential treatment and an end to the Muslim influx. The Shanti Bahini says it has killed more than 500 members of the Bangladeshi military and the police as well as Muslim settlers.

''We are not separatists and we do not want armed intervention by India,'' said Mr. Chakma, the rebel spokesman. He said they wanted a stop to Muslim settlers, protection of the region's demographic character, free elections and extensive economic and political powers.

Sudhir Ranjan Majumdar, the Chief Minister or top elected official of Tripura state in northeast India, said the state did not ''harbor any Shanti Bahini, although their political wing is here.''

''We have a foreign mission here to consult with the Indian Government,'' a rebel official said. ''When there are bad combing operations by the Bangladesh army our fighters cross the border for security. They also come on leave from the campaigns.'' An Exodus to India

Since 1986, India has absorbed more than 51,000 refugee tribespeople, nearly 9,000 of them in the last two weeks, as they flee what is said to be military repression in the region. The refugees include supporters of the Shanti Bahini and leaders of the movement's political wing, the Jana Sanghata Samiti or People's Struggle Organization.

Bangladesh is the world's most densely populated region and one of its poorest. Since it was formed, Muslim settlers have been moving from other parts of the country to the lightly populated Chittagong Hill Tracts. The influx has changed the ethnic composition of the place and brought tension and clashes in its wake.

The current population of the Chittagong Hill Tracts is about one million, with nearly 600,000 tribespeople. The rest are Muslim settlers.

Bangladesh has stepped up a bitter army campaign against the Chakmas, sending them fleeing into India several times in the last 17 years. The 1986 exodus was the biggest. Rights Violations Reported

Amnesty International, the human rights organization, has reported serious violations of human rights in the Chittagong Hill Tracts by Bangladeshi military personnel, including rape, torture and indiscriminate shooting. Recent refugees say the assaults on women, capture of farmland by Muslim settlers and killing of Chakmas is continuing.

The weariness with fighting is showing and the Shanti Bahini held six rounds of talks over the last year with Bangladeshi officials. However, there has been little progress, Mr. Chakma said.

Map of India and Bangladesh indicating the Chittagong Hills. (NYT)
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/11/world/bangladeshi-insurgents-say-india-is-supporting-them.html

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http://cht-terrorism.blogspot.com/2014/03/Shanti-Bahini-were-trained-armed-by-India.htm

Shanti Bahini was sheltered, trained and armed by India. Why and How? Read the Article.

Genocide in the Chittagong Hill Tracts- CHT (Pics) - 1
Who is Shantu Larma?
Issues Of Dispute And The Contemporary Developments In Chittagong Hill Tracts

Chittagong Hill Tracts, which is one tenth of the total size of the country, with its enormous natural resources and strategic geographic location is vital for the existence of Bangladesh. Taking advantage of geographic proximity to its Tripura state and the desire of the local Chakma tribes for greater autonomy with an ultimate goal of creating Jummaland, an independent state for Chakmas.
India's Policy of supporting secessionist movements in Bangladesh

India used its military and intelligence resources to provide help and support to Shanti Bahini. The surreptitious Indian involvement in providing money and weapons to tribal insurgents (Shanti Bahini) in the Chittagong Hill Tracks since 1976 was acknowledged by Bimal Chakma, a Shanti Bahini official in an interview with The New York Times in June 11, 1989. [http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/11/world/bangladeshi-insurgents-say-india-is-supp]orting-them.html]

India used the insurgents against Bangladesh as a tool to gain political and economic concessions which she would not otherwise be able to extract from the government of Bangladesh.
Finally, Bangladesh entered into a peace agreement with Shanti Bahini in 1997 to end insurgency and restore law and order in Chittagong Hill Tracks, but the security and intelligence agencies of the Bangladesh are still convinced that a lot of ex-Shanti Bahini members and other terrorists are still getting help from Indian security agencies and are hiding in the North East states of India.

Why India sheltered secessionist movements of Shanti Bahini?

Because of India’s step motherly attitude towards its landlocked North Eastern states, a growing sense of deprivation, exploitation and insecurity is prevalent among the people of this region, which has contributed to give birth to a number of insurgent groups who have taken up arms against their own government for self-determination.

India’s myopic decision to crush insurgency through military means without finding the root causes to better understand the problem and the absence of a mature policy of providing economic and social incentives to remove inequalities have created myriad of problems causing further alienation of indigenous people. India in an attempt to portray itself as a victim of terrorism is now trying to find a scapegoat in Bangladesh to blame for the insurgency to conceal its failure to contain insurgencies in the North East and disprove its own involvement in secessionist movement in Chittagong Hill Tracts.

Some References on how India sheltered Shanti Bahini
Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT) is part and parcel of Bangladesh since time immemorial. Bangladesh is not an occupation power in CHT. But India being a friendly country since 1973 strives to cede CHT from Bangladesh. With this end in view India motivated Manibendu Larma to float a separatist group Parbatiya Chhotogram Jano Shanghati Somity (PCJSS) and its military wing Shanti Bahini (SB).


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A huge number of Shanti Bahini terrorists were sheltered, trained and, armed by India : Pic Taken in 1997 during peace accord signing


Later India provided money, shelter, training, arms to SB to fight against Bangladesh. Asoka Raina, an Indian journalist in his book Inside RAW Today: The Story of India’s Secret Services (Bikas Publishers, New Delhi, India, 1981, pp. 86-87) presented relevant documents in this regard. He wrote, the RAW operatives closely assisted the Chakma guerrillas. The Chakmas after the change of the government in 1975 contacted the RAW. They offered to infiltrate among the Mizo rebels and pass information to the Indian government in lieu of asylum. This offer was accepted by the then Indian government.
Ashoke Biswas in an article published in The New Nation (August 31, 1994) of Dhaka wrote: The RAW was involved in training the rebels of Chakma tribes and Shanti Bahini to carry out subversive activities in Bangladesh.

In this context let me quote an Indian journalist and BBC Correspondent Mr. Subir Bhaumik. In an interview to Dhaka-based fortnightly news magazine Probe (Vol. 1, issue 4, September 1-15, 2001), he said, “You will see in my book, Arom 1975-1990, the RAW backed Shanti Bahini. …… In 1976 after Shanti Bahini went underground, their people had gone for training in India. Mind you, the rank and file was trained in India. —— There was a clear indication given to Mr. Larma that India was prepared for up to 50,000 guerrillas. Train them, arm them and equip them.”

With this end in view India opened in Tripura and Mizoram, even at Chakrata near Dehradun. Tribid Chakma, a SB cadre, disclosed at a press conference held at National Press Club of Dhaka in September 1994 informed that SB terrorists opened 25 camps of which he could recollect the names of nine sites viz., Sabrum, Silachari, Boyal Para, Kadamtoli, Dayek, Barachari, Ralma, Trimagha and Ratannagar. He informed that some most trusted ones were trained at Dehradun.

A defunct English Weekly of Dhaka Friday (June 3, 1998) informed, “The attempt of M. N. Larma to negotiate a settlement with the Ziaur Rahman government failed as the armed wing of the PCJSS was compelled to initiate armed operation under Indian pressure in 1976.” It was also disclosed later that India out of apprehension developed anti-Larma faction in PCJSS and on December 10, 1983 gunned down him along with his eight other comrades outwardly by Pritikumar faction. Indian government took no action against Pritikumar Chakma, rather allowed him to stay in India even after the signing of the so-called peace treaty.

Mr. Samiran Dewan, the Chairman of Khagrachari Hill District Local Government Council in a press conference, held India responsible for providing shelter, money, training and arms to the SB. He alleged the inner motive of SB was not to gain political and financial concession but to materialize India’s geo-political designs. (The Daily Inqilab, Dhaka, November 12, 1989).
Last, but not least, India in a bid to internationalize the CHT issue financed and manipulated so-called Chakma conferences in Amsterdam (1968), Hamburg (1987), New York (1992) and The Netherlands, Kolkata and Bangkok (1997) where Indian tribals were branded as the dwellers of CHT.

To create international pressure on Bangladesh India using its stooges persuaded about 70 thousand CTH tribal people to India. These so-called refugees when tried to flee away from India were detained in camps under BSF supervision. (For further information regarding India’s role in CHT, interested readers may go through to my book: The Chittagong Hill Tracts: A Victim of Indian Intervention, Eastern Publications, 16 Silvester House, London, EI 2JD, UK, 2003).

India imposed an undeclared war on Bangladesh violating the Indo-Bangladesh Cooperation and Friendship Treaty signed on March 19, 1972 by Bangladesh Founder Sheikh Mujibur Rahman & Indira Gandhi what clearly guaranteed that one country would neither allow the terrorists of the other to use its territory nor encourage any activity subversive to the internal peace and security and territorial integrity.

By: Shahnawaz Ahmad Mantoo and Mohammad Zainal Abedin
India and the Strategic importance of Bangladesh

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Genocide in the Chittagong Hill Tracts- CHT (Pics) - 1

Exclusive Photo archive of CHT Genocide, Committed by barbarous Shanti Bahini : Part 1

Who is Shantu Larma?
Issues Of Dispute And The Contemporary Developments In Chittagong Hill Tracts
Ending terrorism, establishing Human Rights and Peace in CHT

The conventional propaganda process refers not only to distorted facts but also to avoidance to show what people deserve to see. Every successful propaganda campaign has had its own unique tactics. But what made propaganda relating the CHT and its insurgency different than others? A generally understood propaganda technique is depriving people from truth or feeding them one-sided story to manipulate public perception. Propaganda campaigns related to the CHT have long exploited the manipulation technique and took it to a new height.

In the case of the CHT, according to Humayun Azad, one of the prominent humanist writers in Bangladesh, Shanti Bahini, the insurgent group, was badly beaten up by the Bangladesh Army in terms of battle power, but the group defeated the latter in terms of propagation.

A lifelong critic of military’s power abuse and malpractice in state affairs, Mr. Azad, wrote on his book namely Sabuj Paharer Buke Hingshar Jharandhara, that there might be exaggeration in describing Army’s involvement in mass killing in the CHT. The force, after all, is revered by the international community and the United Nations for its contribution in maintaining peace in conflict affected areas around the world.

A number of Bangladeshi media outlets – especially those who promote corporate and NGO culture – have long been exaggerating about Army’s role in the CHT, while the rebels – that is to say, the Shanti Bahini – involved in massacres of the Bengalee population, as well as of tribal population who refused to obey them, in the CHT were never held account. Press in Bangladesh tends to not ask or raise bitter questions about rebel led atrocities which, to some extent, can be termed as ‘genocide’ and ‘ethnic cleansing’.

No records of the brutality the Shanti Bahini committed in the name of ‘rights movement’ were preserved for future generation. A well-funded and well-organized gang of activists constantly worked to cover up all the footprints the separatists left behind.

However, some people who did bother to preserve some of those photo evidences have given us some remembrances of how brutal the force was. In addition, we collected some newspaper cuttings to show how the Shanti Bahini performed biggest ever mass killings in Bangladesh after its inception in 1971. These pictures can be called 'a tiny fleck' of what the SB in fact did, because the documentation of atrocities committed by the SB has never been rich.

Current scenario: Despite the Shanti Bahini signed a so-called ‘Peace Accord’ with the government, its leader Shantu Larma transformed the SB into the PCJSS, which was formerly the political or maternal wing of the SB, and the latter continued the former’s dirty, brutal businesses – hidden killings, extortion, intimidation, torture and kidnapping.

Furthermore, after the treaty had been signed, a faction of the SB cadres established another organization – the UPDF – opposing the treaty, with even more extreme demands.
The UPDF is currently led by Prashit Khisha, who was formerly a member of the SB. Now both the parties – the PCJSS and the UPDF – routinely engage into armed clashes and are involved in a competition to take as much territories as possible in control. The fate of the victims – both Bengalee and the tribal communities – has not since changed significantly.
Old newspaper cutting says: 'What did the girl do wrong? Why did the Shanti Bahini murderers kill her?'
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http://cht-terrorism.blogspot.com/2014/03/photos-of-cht-genocide-committed-by-shantibahini.html
 
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This article penned by veteran Bangladeshi diplomat and presents detail account of indian interference - how india prevented free election in Bangladesh.

Article also described during 1988 flood, how india used its helicopters for relief program in Bangladesh to spy and gather Bangladesh defense and security information.


Indian high commissioner’s good tidings for Bangladesh elections

by M Serajul Islam | Published: 00:05, Jun 08,2017


THE Indian high commissioner Harsh Vardhan Sringhla, in a recent address to the Diplomatic Correspondents Association of Bangladesh, said something extremely significant. He stated that India has no intention of getting involved in the next general elections in Bangladesh that was music to the ears of the majority of the people of the country.
The reason is quite a simple one. Bangladeshis in the overwhelming majority who have been disenfranchised by the way the last elections were held believe that one of the major ways to hold free and fair elections in Bangladesh is for India to keep out of it.

One must wonder what prompted the high commissioner to make such a statement. He was neither asked nor provoked. Perhaps, the high commissioner was reflecting on what had happened in Bangladesh leading to the controversial January 5, 2014 elections while addressing the journalists. Or perhaps he was thinking of the past, in particular of the visit of then Indian foreign secretary Sujata Singh to Bangladesh just days before the elections and her extremely controversial meeting with the former president HM Ershad while preparing his speech for the occasion.

The former president’s Jatiya Party was unwilling to participate in the 2014 elections that would have made it impossible for the ruling Awami League government to hold any elections at all, not even the one it eventually held. The Indian foreign secretary met HM Ershad in his residence and without mincing words and unbelievably undiplomatically told him that the Jatiya Party must take part in the elections in order to keep the BNP/Jamaat from coming to power!

That was the most blatant example of any country interfering in another country’s internal affairs. Ershad exposed the attempted interference by the Indian foreign secretary in a dramatic way. No sooner had she left his residence, he held an impromptu press briefing and reproduced almost verbatim what transpired at the meeting. That meeting will remain as the blackest day when the history of Bangladesh-India relations is written truthfully.


It was not just that. The meeting also reflected a deterioration of India’s widely acknowledged high standard in the conduct of diplomacy. It was common knowledge in Bangladesh and to the Indian High Commission in Dhaka at the time of the meeting of the Indian foreign secretary and HM Ershad that the latter was the least trustworthy politician in Bangladesh.

They had a past experience about Ershad’s unreliability and dubiousness as well as his anti-India bias that dated back to the 1988 floods in Bangladesh that were the most devastating in its history.

Bangladesh had accepted four helicopters from India for dealing with the devastations and those helicopters had rendered extraordinary service in dealing with the post-flood disaster management. However, HM Ershad’s military felt that as the Indian pilots were flying their helicopters freely over the country’s skies, they were having access to country’s security as well. Under pressure from the military, the foreign ministry was asked to call the Indian high commissioner to the foreign ministry, thank India for the helicopters and request that the helicopters be taken back because Bangladesh had managed to deal with the post-flood disaster management.

The Bangladesh side had unfortunately overlooked what the Indian high commissioner curtly pointed out when he was called to the foreign ministry. He reminded the additional foreign secretary, who had received him, that the previous night, president HM Ershad had said on the national television that Bangladesh had requested China for helicopters and, therefore, that Bangladesh did not need the Indian helicopters was not true. The Chinese helicopters had arrived soon after the Indian helicopters were returned.

Therefore, New Delhi knew better than the people of Bangladesh that HM Ershad was not trustworthy. Hence, the last thing that the Indian foreign secretary should have done was to have met him and asked him something that if revealed would have been seen, as New Delhi’s uncalled for interference in Bangladesh’s internal politics. In fact, a great many people in Bangladesh had expected New Delhi to encourage the Awami League through its foreign secretary’s visit to make efforts so that the elections would be held with all the parties. Instead, the Indian foreign secretary left no doubt to anyone in Bangladesh that New Delhi was interested only in bringing the Awami League back at any cost.
Thus for good reasons, there is a very deep-rooted perception in Bangladesh that as long as New Delhi backs the Awami League as it did in the 2014 elections, there is no way for any other party to come to power in Bangladesh. There is also many other perceptions about India arising from what people believe are its intentions to see the Awami League in power that are neither good for Bangladesh-India relations nor for India itself and its rightful ambitions to emerge as a respected regional and world power.
These perceptions, real or otherwise, also come in the way of two extremely important dimensions in Bangladesh-India relations. First, it stands in the way of the people of Bangladesh from expressing their indebtedness to India for its help in looking after 10 million Bangladeshis who had fled to India to save themselves from the Pakistani genocide in 1971 and, more importantly, for assisting Bangladesh to win the war of independence against the Pakistani military.
Therefore, for a variety of important reasons critical to Bangladesh and Bangladesh-India relations and, in fact, for India too, the statement of the Indian high commissioner augurs well for the people of Bangladesh because less than 10 per cent of them were able to vote in the last elections. Thus they are looking at the next elections to let them regain their right to vote and in that context, the high commissioner’s statement is the best news in politics that they have heard for a very long time.
The high commissioner’s statement left some to wonder why the Indian high commissioner had to assure Bangladesh about its intentions if it had no worries about its interference in past elections, particularly the January 5, 2014 one. It was like the priest suspecting someone was inside the temple eating the sweetmeat and the fruit shouting from the outside if anyone was inside and the thief inside answering loudly that he was not eating the sweetmeat or the fruit!
Nevertheless, the high commissioner’s assurance has created hope in Bangladesh that the next elections could perhaps not be a repeat of January 2014 elections for if India were not to interfere, the chances of free and fair elections in Bangladesh would be immensely bright. In addition, if New Delhi acts as the high commissioner has said it would, the two countries could expect a new direction in their bilateral relations where not just their governments but also their peoples would become the stakeholders and the beneficiaries.
Postscript: Prime minister Narendra Modi sacked Sujata Singh in January 2015, the first foreign secretary to be removed unceremoniously following that of AP Venkatswaran in 1987 by then prime minister Rajiv Gandhi.

- See more at: http://www.newagebd.net/article/172...for-bangladesh-elections#sthash.88aGZr4j.dpuf
 
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