Obsession with India cripples Pak diplomacy: Rushdie

[Spring Onion]

So called elite members are found trolling??

You have every right to counter Rushdie's view. However India is not matter of debate here. Thanks.

The maloon Rushdi is an Indian. He is speaking on behalf of India, he would be the last person to be taken as an authority to speak about Pakistani internal matters.

India is very much a matter of debate here, as he is acting like a tool of same Indian lobbying for diplomacy at international front.

 

[ek_indian]

The maloon Rushdi is an Indian. He is speaking on behalf of India, he would be the last person to be taken as an authority to speak about Pakistani internal matters.

He is a British national. And how he is speaking on behalf of India. I recall we have out embassy to do the job if any.

India is very much a matter of debate here, as he is acting like a tool of same Indian lobbying for diplomacy at international front.

You mean omnipotent Indians are using everyones for lobbying. This is not logical by any standard.
BTW, India has lots of muslims as well. Therefore there is no reason India is "using" this person.

 

[Justin Joseph]

Karan You should be utterly ashamed.I know that Hindus don't like Muslims and will use every opportunity to humiliate them.

But Still there is something called Morality.Don't you even cared a little about what would happen to the heart of a muslim when you post threads based on these type of People.

please don't bring religion to it. Also, why are you so prejudice that some religion don't like other religion type of crap.

come out of prejudices its not like that.

India was the first country in the world to ban "Satanic verses".

If views of Hafeez saeed types of people, radical terrorist viewpoint can be posted than it can also be posted.

 

[sparklingway]

The point of "worthy news" is debatable here. And I know The Hindu does not focus on entertainment news. I do not know why you get the impression. However ToI does it.

You got it right. I apologize for my mistake back there. The Hindu was the much more sensible and serious one. Times of India was downright a tabloid.

 

[sparklingway]

please don't bring religion to it. Also, why are you so prejudice that some religion don't like other religion type of crap.

come out of prejudices its not like that.

India was the first country in the world to ban "Satanic verses".

If views of Hafeez saeed types of people, radical terrorist viewpoint can be posted than it can also be posted.

[sarcasm]You, sir are downright wrong. Pakistan is the "fortress of Islam" and the people of Pakistan have a monopoly over faith and morality alike. The talk of freedom of religion in India is pure distortion and deception.

Muslim women in India are being married to Hindus and Sikhs forcefully. And that is the "reality". Because we do not believe in freedom or religion nor can we tolerate free thinking people, freedom of religion is a farce create by Zionists to convert us to non believers. There is no such thing as freedom of religion as my mind cannot comprehend it (mind explodes and brain goo comes out)[/sarcasm]

 

[paritosh]

the only thing that I know about Rusdie is that he got Padma Lakshmi who is the hottest female alive!

 

[Contrarian]

Fortress of Islam?
And you appointed that role yourself eh?

No one, not one Muslim country thinks or depends on Pakistan on any issue related to Islam or otherwise. The exception maybe Afghanistan and that too because Pakistan has been playing havoc with Afghanistan since decades.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran maybe considered the leaders of the Muslim world.

Come on man, dont fashion a role for yourself because you have none.

 

[sparklingway]

And you appointed that role yourself eh?

No one, not one Muslim country thinks or depends on Pakistan on any issue related to Islam or otherwise. The exception maybe Afghanistan and that too because Pakistan has been playing havoc with Afghanistan since decades.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran maybe considered the leaders of the Muslim world.

Come on man, dont fashion a role for yourself because you have none.

I have the right to assumption and commenting on what I see is the general perception and belief.

Role = Devil's advocate, maybe? (although I'm convinced far more than a devil's advocate is usually)

 

[sparklingway]

It is very much on the topic a man who was born in India and defending Indian mindset by speaking against Pakistan that too viz a viz Indo-Pak issues, does require to debate the Indian diplomacy tactics

As I see, most Indian members don't see him as a representative of India or his views as a reflection of the Indian viewpoint. Most Indian members don't seem to care about what he has to say. It becomes easy for us then to ignore the unwanted comments of an extremely controversial person.

It's the same way as we do not consider Ibn Warraq to be a representative of the Pakistani nation or its ideologies and Bengalis don't see Taslmia Nasreen as one of their own.

 

[Spring Onion]

Fortress of Islam?
And you appointed that role yourself eh?

No one, not one Muslim country thinks or depends on Pakistan on any issue related to Islam or otherwise. The exception maybe Afghanistan and that too because Pakistan has been playing havoc with Afghanistan since decades.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran maybe considered the leaders of the Muslim world.

Come on man, dont fashion a role for yourself because you have none.

Check the map the Muslim block ends at Pakistan, Anyway thats another debate.

As far as Pakistan and Afghanistan is concerned, Pakistan did play havoc rather its unfortunatly the geo-startegic location of the two countries that is playing havoc coupled with policies of Pentagon.


And your s0-called leaders of the Muslim world i.e Iran is not liked by many neither American backed dictator-cum-democratic Egypt is going to defend the Muslim world. Palestinian case has proved it already

 

[Omar1984]

And you appointed that role yourself eh?

No one, not one Muslim country thinks or depends on Pakistan on any issue related to Islam or otherwise. The exception maybe Afghanistan and that too because Pakistan has been playing havoc with Afghanistan since decades.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran maybe considered the leaders of the Muslim world.

Come on man, dont fashion a role for yourself because you have none.

You dont know what you are talking about.

First of all Saudi Arabia is Sunni, Iran is Shia. Iran thinks Saudi Arabia is wrong, Saudi Arabia thinks Iran is wrong. Almost all Muslim Majority countries in the world have Sunni majority.


If Pakistan is not a key player in the Muslim world then how come Pakistan has easily blocked india from entry into the OIC and during the 2008 Amarnath land transfer imbroglio the OIC's condemnation of the ongoing excessive and unwarranted use of force against the Kashmiri people had upset india to this day.

Organisation of the Islamic Conference - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Even other countries are seeking Pakistan's help to be included into the OIC:

We have applied for an observer status in the OIC where Pakistan is an influential member. We are hoping that soon we will get an observer status,” Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic said here on Thursday.

Serbia seeks Pakistan?s help to get an observer status in OIC | The Statesmen | Media you can Believe in

 

[Spring Onion]

As I see, most Indian members don't see him as a representative of India or his views as a reflection of the Indian viewpoint. Most Indian members don't seem to care about what he has to say. It becomes easy for us then to ignore the unwanted comments of an extremely controversial person.

I differ with your above views here because

1. The Indian media had given his rant about Pakistan coverage which shows they do endorse everyone and every view that bash and harms Pakistan.

2. The Indian member had posted this item of maloon Rushdi with much entusiasm which also shows that they are happy and endorse his views.

 

[sparklingway]

I differ with your above views here because

1. The Indian media had given his rant about Pakistan coverage which shows they do endorse everyone and every view that bash and harms Pakistan.

2. The Indian member had posted this item of maloon Rushdi with much entusiasm which also shows that they are happy and endorse his views.

A bunch of them, of course, found Pakistan bashing tempting to say the least and did not keep in mind the controversial nature of his views. Nonetheless, a number of them expressed their disapproval as well (go to the first two pages). We should support wherever sanity prevails (even if it is rare)

 

[afriend]

Thats how Baharatiya diplomacy works. even i read some Indian actor in the recent past was talkinag about some startegic issues bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Well we all have the right to express our views with regards to diplomacy,demoracy or human rights in our country.. but that is not mixed with the diplomacy unlike pakistan where a mere rejection of pak players from a private tournement called ipl turned out into a major diplomatic issue..!!!!

And more over rushdies book is banned in india..!! but we are not banning the auther coz we know that we are not barbarians..!!! We have taken care of the sentiments of muslims as well as the fundemental rights of mr.rushdie..and thats my friend how a democracy works..!!!!!

 

[Bang Galore]

Thats how Baharatiya diplomacy works. even i read some Indian actor in the recent past was talkinag about some startegic issues bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I differ with your above views here because

1. The Indian media had given his rant about Pakistan coverage which shows they do endorse everyone and every view that bash and harms Pakistan.

2. The Indian member had posted this item of maloon Rushdi with much entusiasm which also shows that they are happy and endorse his views.

What do you know of Rushdie other than that you hate him? Have you read his books?

Regardless of the controversy about one of his books, we are talking about one very intelligent and talented man. If you don't like his comments, tune off. He did not say anything about Pakistan that has not been said before by a lot of people. You are letting your hatred of him cloud your vision.

You have no problem posting views of Hafiz Saeed, a terrorist thug with Indian blood on his hands but you are going on & on about the views of an internationally acclaimed author being posted. What has this got to do with his book anyway? These are his views and they are as newsworthy as the views of semi literate thugs whose only claim to fame is waging jihad on Indians and sending hundreds of poor fools to kill. (Mod Edit)