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Obama to visit Pakistan in March next year

WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama is likely to visit Pakistan in March 2011 whereas President Asif Ali Zardari is expected to visit Washington by the end of Jan 2011, informed sources said here on Friday.
Obama who completed his three-day trip to India last week announced last month, while meeting with a Pakistani delegation at the White House that instead of making a brief stopover in Pakistan during his first ever visit to Asia as the US President, he would visit Pakistan in 2011 separately. Obama, at this time, also extended an invitation to President Zaradri to visit America.

A White House official, who is familiar with details of planning of proposed visit of Obama to Islamabad, told this correspondent here on condition of anonymity that it had been decided by Pak and US officials that the visit would take place in March. During this two-day visit Obama besides meeting Pakistani military and civil leaders would address the joint session of parliament.

The official said Obama would make some key announcements regarding war on terrorism in Islamabad and Kabul, which would be his next stop after Islamabad. The visit dates had been worked out but being kept secret due to security reasons, the official said. The official said Pakistanis did not want their president to be in the US Capital at a time when US Congress was going through lame duck period.

http://http://thepakistaninewspaper.com/news_detail.php?id=18342
 
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Friends, Why must Obama visit Pakistan?


It will be a disaster for Pakistan and Pakistanis --- Pakistan will have to engage in more wars, Pakistanis will have to hear from their US "ally" that Pakistan by not agreeing to play doormat to the US are playing what the US calls a "double game", Pakistan's call for FTA and market access will be handled as they have been in the last 10 years, namely gathering dust on some shelf, Pakistani visitors to the US will encounter greater scrutiny and encounter more foul treatment at the hands of petty US officials (in the name of security and safety, of course), Pakistanis will also have to suffer American security persons mistreating Pakistanis in Pakistan, the list goes on....


Why must Obama visit Pakistan? Pakistanis should express their disapproval of the visit by writing and speaking to media --- It's not that Obama or any other American is unwelcome, but rather that such a visit will not resolve problems, it will only add to them --- real problems can be resolved by deepening the economic relationship, not by transfers of military hardware, and certainly not empty high profile visits by a head of state.

Pakistan and the US should work on establishing a substantial relationship of diverse interests - the photo opportunities and any possible existence of goodwill between peoples can come later.
 
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Oh Please! Ask him to go India again. No need for his photo shoots and terror talk. :bounce:
 
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It is very interesting to see that on his visit to Pakistan will obama condemn or force india about Kashmir issue or not.The same way he point out the terrorist hideouts in Pakistan in his visit to india.I bet he will completely ignore it... I bet it...
 
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Will belive it when we see it.
 
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if he is not coming to sign mega trade deals and help boost our economy with trade (not aid) then he may as well not bother!
 
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he maybe visiting because some one told, obama u must have visited pakistan to inform them and negotiate with them for the the freshly made exit strategy, what will happen if pakistan doesnt give us the safe passage :rofl::rofl:

US to pakistan = bullshitt, nobody cares, eat dirt
 
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FOR WHAT HE IS COMING, JUST TO TELL US TOE THE INDIAN LINE.

He will beg more transit aid for India.
He will show his support to the most unpopular person of Pakistan.
He will come to laugh at the destruction of Pakistan by the hands of TTP and most corrupt person known in the living world.
He will offer bribe to media and perhaps US tour offer to the corrupt PPP and Noon league.
I forgot.... he may also launch Balawal Bhutto.
 
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Friends

While you vent, I encourage you to consider soberly what I ask you to do, write to newspapers, whether pages or sentences, write to newspaper editors, ask what is served by arranging such a visit other than to accrue negatives to Pakistan.

A correct relationship with the US is important to all countries, deep, multi-faceted relationship focused on increased trade and investment is indeed a worthy ambition - friends, do we even have a correct relationship with the US? We hope to build a deep multi-faceted relationship, but when the basic foundation is not set on correct relations, is it realistic to hope to develop anything worthwhile on such a house of cards (other than deceit and deception)?

A state visit celebrates achievement, marks the agreement and mechanism to take the relationship and interests of both parties to the next level, acts as a marker for the peoples of countries and civilizations of what has been achieved and what may be achieved --- Where in this does one see US-Pakistan relations?

Look, I don't want to offend anyone, what I am proposing is that the issue of the visit be discussed so that at least newspaper editors will know the opinion of concerned persons such as yourselves - you do matter and your opinion does count - just three sentences: Why is this important given the Pakistan and US relations are in this terrible state where they accuse each other of acting against each others interests? Does the Pakistani public need to give the US president or any US anything, a platform to malign the Pakistani state and nation, which this, like other visits, will certainly be a venue for. And, really, is the US relevant to Pakistan? To a section of society, hard earned US tax payer monies are relevant, but really, what is the impact of these to the peoples of Pakistan, is it not more important for Pakistan to trade, to work than to be grateful for US tax payer monies to politicians and bureaucrats? Exactly how is the US relevant to the Pakistani state and nation??

Your letters and your opinions can begin a debate in the nation, among policy makers and opinion makers, and can help us all to refine our positions.
 
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US is courting both India and Pakistan
Fazle Rashid in New York

United States is courting nuclear power arch rivals India and Pakistan for two different reasons. America wants India to counter China's claim to regional leadership. It needs Pakistan to combat the growing might of Islamic militancy
The perception that China is a regional power grossly undermines the all round muscle Beijing has gained in the last few years. China is a global power and it can send the international financial market into a spin in matter of minutes. Curbing Islamic militancy in Pakistan and Afghanistan has not been an easy task. The US and Nato countries together have used latest modern weaponry and billions of dollars in fighting the Jihadist with little success.
India in a major shift in its policy is turning to the US for military hardware to secure its border. India is planning to procure 126 US built multirole combat fighter jets at a cost of $11 billion to rearm country's outdated and obsolete air force and upgrade defence capabilities against China and Pakistan. India is one of the biggest arms buying country in the world with a defence budget of Rs.1420 billion
India will receive three important visitors almost with similar missions: to sell arms US president Obama's visit in November will be followed by French president Nicolas Sarkozy and Russian president Dmitry Medvedev. Indian army is the third largest in the world with 1.1 million soldiers in active service. India ranks third after China and Russia as the fastest growing defence spenders, the Financial Times in a recent report said.
The US will also provide Pakistan with $2 billion a year in military aid over the next four years, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said. Washington views battle against Islamic militancy on Pakistan soil is a "vital national interest." In addition to the military aid the US will also give Pakistan $1.5 billion in civilian aid over next five years.
The meeting between Pakistan and the US recently including a one to one meeting with President Obama and Pakistan army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani was intended to address concern that Pakistan is not doing enough to crush the militants.
It is the third high level meeting between the two sides in a year highlighting Islamabad's importance to Washington
Hameed Karzai, the Afghan president dropped a bombshell stating that he regularly receives bagful of cash from the Iranian government signalling a worsening rift between his government and the US and Nato countries. He accused that the United States is financing the killing of civilians by paying the private security contractors. He declined to postpone December deadline ending use of private security.
Karzai stormed out of a meeting with Nato Commander Gen. David Petraeus saying he does require western help. He said the (Iranian) payments are transparent and he had briefed former US president George Bush about it. Nothing is hidden, the US is doing the same thing, Karzai said. Unnamed Afghan and western officials said Iran paid million of dollars into a secret president slush fund to buy loyalty.
 
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Pakistan is not America’s enemy

Ryan Crocker

The news from Pakistan is grim. NATO helicopters engage suspected militants inside Pakistan, killing three, only to discover they are Pakistani soldiers. The angry Pakistani government blocks NATO fuel shipments at the Khyber Pass, and militants attack the stalled trucks. An Obama administration report to Congress charges that the Pakistanis aren’t doing enough against the Taliban and al Qaeda. Press accounts quote unnamed officials asserting that elements in Pakistani intelligence are encouraging the Taliban to step up attacks on NATO forces. And Bob Woodward cites President Obama as saying “the cancer is in Pakistan.”
One could easily conclude that we are describing an enemy, not an ally. Many in Pakistan feel the same way. And yet the prospects for stabilizing Afghanistan, defeating al Qaeda and preventing further attacks on the United States are a direct function of that strained alliance. It is time for a collective deep breath.
Pakistan’s historical narrative focuses on how the U.S. worked with Pakistanis and Afghans to drive the Soviets from Afghanistan in the 1980s:
We succeeded—and then we left. And on our way out, we slapped sanctions on Pakistan, ending all security and economic assistance because of the country’s nuclear program, which we had known about since 1974 when Pakistan’s prime minister announced it publicly. We left Pakistan alone to deal with a destabilizing civil war in Afghanistan, and when the Taliban emerged as a dominant force in the mid-1990s, Islamabad supported them as a means of ending the conflict.
Then came 9/11 and the U.S. was back. Pakistanis welcomed the renewed assistance. But a constant question I heard while serving as ambassador to Pakistan from 2004-2007 was “How long will you stay this time, and what mess will you leave us with when you go?” For a fragile state with innumerable problems, including a vicious internal insurgency, these are existential questions.
Never in Pakistan’s six decades of existence has the U.S. sustained a long-term, strategic commitment in the country. The Bush administration recognized this and enacted security and economic assistance programs designed to make a long-term difference in education, health care and governance. In 2006, I argued successfully for a five-year assistance package for Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), which are notable both for chronic underdevelopment and extremism. The Obama administration has built on this, and last year’s Kerry-Lugar bill provided $7.5 billion in assistance over five years. So we have the architecture in place to build a strategic relationship.
Still, short-term pressures risk undermining long-term strategy. When I was ambassador, voices in Congress, the media and even the administration were constantly calling for the U.S. to get tough on Pakistan, make Pakistanis do more, threaten them with consequences. Such exhortations were—and remain—generally counterproductive, as they fuel fears that the U.S. will again abandon Pakistan.
The U.S. can better work with Pakistan if we improve our understanding of history: Given its rivalry with India and its organic disunity, which dates back to its founding, Pakistan fears for its basic survival. The country has always had a difficult relationship with Afghanistan, not least because in the 19th century the British deliberately drew the Pakistani-Afghan border, the so-called Durand Line, in order to divide the Pashtun people. Today Pashtuns make up Afghanistan’s largest community, but there are more Pashtuns in Pakistan.
The Durand Line also set the groundwork for the tribal areas, which are legally distinct from the rest of Pakistan because the British could never exert direct control over them. No central authority ever has. Winston Churchill’s first published work, “The Story of the Malakand Field Force,” is about fierce tribesmen declaring jihad against a Western army. It could be a contemporary account.

So what does this mean in concrete terms?
First, the U.S. should appreciate Pakistan’s challenges and support its government in dealing with them. This summer’s devastating floods have disappeared from the U.S. media but will continue to wreak havoc in Pakistan for a long time to come. In 2005 and 2006, after an earthquake in Kashmir killed almost 80,000 Pakistanis, the U.S. organized the largest relief operation since the Berlin Airlift. The floods’ death toll is lower, but their long-term damage will be far greater. U.S. support should be commensurate.
Second, the U.S. should not carry out cross-border military actions, which I strongly resisted as ambassador. They are clearly counterproductive, and not just because we hit the wrong target. If NATO can carry out military actions in Pakistan from the west, Pakistanis wonder, what stops India from doing the same from the east? There are other options, including drone strikes, which the U.S. is now coordinating more closely with Pakistanis.
Third, with Pakistan’s government (as with Afghanistan’s), we must be private in our criticism and public in our support. Private talks should deepen regarding challenges like the insurgent Haqqani network in North Waziristan, and we need to listen at least as much as we lecture.
Fourth, any talks between the U.S. or Afghanistan and the Taliban must be transparent to the Pakistanis. A nightmare for Islamabad is the prospect that the Americans and Afghans come to some accommodation with Taliban elements that would leave them hostile to Pakistan. If Pakistan is not part of the process, we will be working at cross-purposes and only the Taliban will benefit.
Pakistan’s arrest of Taliban leader Abdul Ghani Baradar—at a time when he had begun reconciliation talks with Afghan authorities—underscored the risks of leaving Islamabad out of the loop. Going forward, the timing and nature of talks with the Taliban should be set by Afghans, Pakistanis and Americans working together.
None of this will be easy, but it is essential. A sustained U.S.-Pakistani partnership after the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan could have produced a very different history than the one we wrestle with today. Writing a different future requires making long-term commitments—on both sides of the Durand Line.
The author is the dean of Texas A & M’s George Bush School of Government and Public Service, was U.S. ambassador to Pakistan from 2004 to 2007 and U.S. ambassador to Iraq from 2007 to 2009.
Courtesy: Wall Street Journal
 
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It is very interesting to see that on his visit to Pakistan will obama condemn or force india about Kashmir issue or not.The same way he point out the terrorist hideouts in Pakistan in his visit to india.I bet he will completely ignore it... I bet it...

the answer is no,they cannot to afford to attract India's wrath.

Anyway u can see it for urself when he visit Pakistan next year.
 
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India's considerable wrath aside - I think we may focus on the issue of the relevance of the US to Pakistan and within that, the issue of having to play host to Obama.

Pakistan have made mistakes with regard to evaluating the role US policy can play in offering stability to the region and bringing about stability inside Pakistan - While stability inside Pakistan is primarily a failure of domestic politics, the external angle mus not be overestimated, that's right, in our effort to examine the relevance of US policy to Pakistan, we must be honest about the ails of Pakistan and it's relationship to stability inside Pakistan -- However, continued US presence in the region is a source of instability, and indeed this is not some "unintended consequence" - readers, particularly Pakistani readers will not fail to note that US policy continues to be at the center of instability in the region, whether it is in Iran with the creation and support of terrorist groups such as Jundullah or in Afghanistan by taking sides ina civil war or in captive Kashmir by ensuring India do not negotiate or in the creation of ethnic unrest in Kyrgyzstan.

Is the US relevant to Pakistan? I don't mean to Pakistani politicians and bureaucrats who scheme to defraud both US and Pakistani citizens of generous US tax payer monies - no, what I am asking is whether the US should not be down graded to reflect the real negative role it plays not just in the region but in Pakistan?

Give this negative role, why should Pakistan play host to Obama, after all what is to be achieved by this ???
 
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