Obama orders U.S. airstrikes in Syria against Islamic State

[donkeypunch]

This Alex Jones a a real American....

Dude, Alex Jones is a colossal douche bag. We 'real Americans' laugh at him, big time.

 

[Chak Bamu]

It doesn't matter who we drop bombs on over there, they're ALL our enemy. BOMBS AWAY !!!!!!!

Sir, American strength should ensure peace, not more war. I hope you realize that your comments just reinforce stereotypes and prejudices. American bombs drive more people into the arms of hard-line extremists. According to London-based Egyptian journalist, Bari Al-Atwan (on BBC yesterday), more people are joining the ranks of ISIS as a result of US bombings.

A better approach (according to him) would have been to force the regional players (KSA, Iran, Jordan, etc....) to deal with this problem with possible American support. I agree with him. It is counter-productive for American interests to waste resources like this and actually make ISIS stronger by validating their propaganda.

 

[gambit]

Sir, American strength should ensure peace, not more war. I hope you realize that your comments just reinforce stereotypes and prejudices. American bombs drive more people into the arms of hard-line extremists. According to London-based Egyptian journalist, Bari Al-Atwan (on BBC yesterday), more people are joining the ranks of ISIS as a result of US bombings.

A better approach (according to him) would have been to force the regional players (KSA, Iran, Jordan, etc....) to deal with this problem with possible American support. I agree with him. It is counter-productive for American interests to waste resources like this and actually make ISIS stronger by validating their propaganda.

What make you think the US could 'force' these Muslim countries to take on IS on their own ? The threat is in their backyards and that is not compelling enough ? The Islamic State, or whatever they want to call themselves, have no navy or air force. These Muslim countries do. So what need is there for US support ? Support in what way ?

In trying to criticize US, you ended up indicting your own.

 

[Chak Bamu]

What make you think the US could 'force' these Muslim countries to take on IS on their own ? The threat is in their backyards and that is not compelling enough ? The Islamic State, or whatever they want to call themselves, have no navy or air force. These Muslim countries do. So what need is there for US support ? Support in what way ?

In trying to criticize US, you ended up indicting your own.

In trying to 'defend' US, you ended up blaming me for something I did not do. Please remove your prejudice before addressing me. I lived in US for more than 9 years. I have respect and appreciation for Americans, some of whom were and are my very good friends. So the next time you think of criticizing me to satisfy an itch, do think twice.

It pains me to see that US government does not consider things from any perspective other than their own, NATO's, & Israel's. This is counter-productive to say the least and always leaves loose ends that come back to haunt US policy makers one way or another.

The information emerging from the region is that CIA has been wrong in its estimates and the strength of ISIS is more than the previous and the current estimate. As a person who worries about the presence of ISIS sympathizers in Pakistan's Western fringe, US policies seem deficient. Why is Iran out of the loop, even though they have a convergence of interest with USA? Why are Israelis still able to influence US government's decision making to an extent that their strategy seems incomplete and likely to yield inadequate results?

This is a regional problem and US must encourage the regional players to team up against this threat. Who knows, KSA and Iran might find ways of co-operating in other areas as well? This can only be good for peace in the region and beyond.

I can not understand why you have a problem with indirect support from USA for regional allies? I do not know your thoughts about employment of air-power so I can not pre-suppose your opinion. However, surely you can understand that I am suggesting that US policy should let others do the actual work and not gift 'legitimacy' to ISIS by bombing them. How can my suggestion be any worse than the current approach?

I think you agree with @donkeypunch and that is why you are finding problems with my polite rejoinder. Do you think of 'us' as 'your' enemies? Do tell.

 

[Globenim]

This Alex Jones a a real American educated and just brutal truth he explained the plan to destabilize so clearly in the video #3 above

I think the plan is to help nurture the ISIS groups with air support but encourage them to take over Syria which is weakened by Civil war

The air strikes would be covert ops against Syria , and ISIS would be encouraged to go destabilize Syria.

Do we have any Kurds on forums , are Kurds muslims or what never heard about them who they are ?

What exactly was John Mccaine doing with ISIS ? were they cutting deal to take over Syria or something

Alex Jones is controled opposition. He picks up serious issues like the crimes against humanity comitted by the U.S.A. in Syria and pulls the topic down to conspiracy theory level, moderated by some lunatic and makes the entire issue look like nutjob talk of FOX news quality. He only talks about issues 'problematic' informed people already know, but the U.S. regime controlled "free press" would never touch on without spin or whitewashing U.S. and proxies crimes. Honeytrap to pull in people trying to look for alternatives to U.S. propaganda and keeping them poorly informed while minizing damage.

 

[Falcon29]

Crusaders are opening the gates of hell on their selves. It's time to solve this once for and all, all crusader illegal occupation interests in the blessed ME which belongs to the blessed people and not to Crusader/Zionist terrorists will suffer a horrible fate.

 

[1000]

Crusaders are opening the gates of hell on their selves. It's time to solve this once for and all, all crusader illegal occupation interests in the blessed ME which belongs to the blessed people and not to Crusader/Zionist terrorists will suffer a horrible fate.

You live in the US you can blow yourself up in a police station or army recruitment office but you don't do shit

 

[Falcon29]

You live in the US you can blow yourself up in a police station or army recruitment office but you don't do shit

Nope, I'm not an aggressor, this land belongs to the people here. I didn't come here to establish a military base and occupy Alaska. The government here did that in the ME to occupy the land thousands of miles from their home and commit aggression against the people. The interests in the ME will suffer, because aggression will be combated.

 

[1000]

Nope, I'm not an aggressor, this land belongs to the people here. I didn't come here to establish a military base and occupy Alaska. The government here did that in the ME to occupy the land thousands of miles from their home and commit aggression against the people. The interests in the ME will suffer, because aggression will be combated.

The US is attacking the Muslims, the US has been attacking Muslims for decades, you live in that country and contribute to this oppressor instead of weakening it.

 

[Falcon29]

The US is attacking the Muslims, the US has been attacking Muslims for decades, you live in that country and contribute to this oppressor instead of weakening it.

I already you told that will change once I command the US army.

 

[1000]

I already you told that will change once I command the US army.

Jokes will not change the reality of your unholy deeds.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Jokes will not change the reality of your unholy deeds.

give him a break
1/2 of the time hazzy doesnt even know what hes saying.

 

[Ulysses]

It's embarrassing how this group formed under our belt.... I'm ashamed Obama has no balls to stand up and do the right thing and take action and lead

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Sir, American strength should ensure peace, not more war. I hope you realize that your comments just reinforce stereotypes and prejudices. American bombs drive more people into the arms of hard-line extremists. According to London-based Egyptian journalist, Bari Al-Atwan (on BBC yesterday), more people are joining the ranks of ISIS as a result of US bombings.

A better approach (according to him) would have been to force the regional players (KSA, Iran, Jordan, etc....) to deal with this problem with possible American support. I agree with him. It is counter-productive for American interests to waste resources like this and actually make ISIS stronger by validating their propaganda.

Don't waste your time on Donkeypunch it's best to ignore him, he's to far gone into the islamophobia propaganda. Calling for the blanket bombing of the ME is a major symptom that occurs after it is too late to talk sense into them.

 

[gambit]

In trying to 'defend' US, you ended up blaming me for something I did not do. Please remove your prejudice before addressing me. I lived in US for more than 9 years. I have respect and appreciation for Americans, some of whom were and are my very good friends. So the next time you think of criticizing me to satisfy an itch, do think twice.

It pains me to see that US government does not consider things from any perspective other than their own, NATO's, & Israel's. This is counter-productive to say the least and always leaves loose ends that come back to haunt US policy makers one way or another.

The information emerging from the region is that CIA has been wrong in its estimates and the strength of ISIS is more than the previous and the current estimate. As a person who worries about the presence of ISIS sympathizers in Pakistan's Western fringe, US policies seem deficient. Why is Iran out of the loop, even though they have a convergence of interest with USA? Why are Israelis still able to influence US government's decision making to an extent that their strategy seems incomplete and likely to yield inadequate results?

This is a regional problem and US must encourage the regional players to team up against this threat. Who knows, KSA and Iran might find ways of co-operating in other areas as well? This can only be good for peace in the region and beyond.

I can not understand why you have a problem with indirect support from USA for regional allies? I do not know your thoughts about employment of air-power so I can not pre-suppose your opinion. However, surely you can understand that I am suggesting that US policy should let others do the actual work and not gift 'legitimacy' to ISIS by bombing them. How can my suggestion be any worse than the current approach?

I think you agree with @donkeypunch and that is why you are finding problems with my polite rejoinder. Do you think of 'us' as 'your' enemies? Do tell.

I blamed you for nothing.

In demanding the US act on IS and the ME, you did not address the issue of why do you need US to act in the first place. The answer would indict you, as it always have: Because you, as in the people of the region, cannot act without external leadership.

Saddam Hussein was a regional problem. It took US leadership, not just resources, but moral and diplomatic leadership, to create and lead an alliance of Muslim countries to put Iraq down. The resources, such as jet fighters, ships, and guns, are easy. If we want to, we can produce them in the US and give them away like candies. But we cannot force someone to have a spine or induce courage into him.

You said: '...US must encourage the regional players to team up against this threat.'

But why do you need US in the first place, even just to 'encourage' ? The first priority for IS is not the US, but the immediate Muslim countries. Why do you need US to provide moral encouragement for the regional players to see the threat to their status as independent countries ? How much 'encouragement' and what kind do you want/need ? Would a twerking routine by the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders lead by Miley Cyrus and Nicky Minaj help ?

You want to criticize American intelligence services and diplomatic corps as blunglers as the Keystone Kops ? Fine. Do so to your heart's content. But criticizing how I wield the weed whacker in my front yard does not wilt the weeds in your backyard.

The reason why IS exists and even thrives is because there are enough of you who supports it. Not because American intelligence services are stupid or diplomats are inept. Criticizing US as to how we should 'encourage regional players' serves only to distract from the real problem -- you.