Obama demands halt to South China Sea island building

[Zero_wing]

Who said anything about natural islands? Like I said. Read the UNCLOS Article 87. The freedom to build Artificial Islands and other installation on the high sea enjoys the same status as the freedom of navigation.

ok then tell us this why are you people insisting that artificial island as the same value as natural islands does? UNCLOS clearly states only natural islands can generate continental shelf and lastly china is not Archipelagic States which UNCLOS favours again all you said was nothing more than propaganda

 

[Zsari]

ok then tell us this why are you people insisting that artificial island as the same value as natural islands does? UNCLOS clearly states only natural islands can generate continental shelf and lastly china is not Archipelagic States which UNCLOS favours again all you said was nothing more than propaganda

Who is claiming continental shelf? There is no continental shelf in South China Sea. China is reclaiming land on existing reef. But since US insist on FONOP, China certainly have the right to build artificial island anywhere it pleases on the high sea, whereas the demand by the US is not in accordance with UNCLOS.

 

[William Hung]

Who is claiming continental shelf? There is no continental shelf in South China Sea. China is reclaiming land on existing reef. But since US insist on FONOP, China certainly have the right to build artificial island anywhere it pleases on the high sea, whereas the demand by the US is not in accordance with UNCLOS.

Firstly, UNCLOS only allows you to build artificial island on reefs that are within your EEZ or territorial sea. Thats why it is illegal when those reefs dont fall within your EEZ or territorial sea.

Secondly, those artificial islands (and freedom of navigation) doesnt really matters and is not the real motive behind the current dispute. They are only used to wage a PR wars against China and your reputation just went downhill. Only short sighted Chinese cannot see this. Even a once neutral country like Indonesia is beginning to say what is going on China, clarify yourself or else I might take you to court.

 

[empirefighter]

Mouth war means nothing，but except that，US cannot do anything.
To the Vietnamese ，philippines here AGAIN：unlike your pity countries，Chinese think US is powerful but not invincinble. These different views between us decide our different policies，that is：it is impossible for us to retreat.

 

[Economic superpower]

Firstly, UNCLOS only allows you to build artificial island on reefs that are within your EEZ or territorial sea. Thats why it is illegal when those reefs dont fall within your EEZ or territorial sea.

Secondly, those artificial islands (and freedom of navigation) doesnt really matters and is not the real motive behind the current dispute. They are only used to wage a PR wars against China and your reputation just went downhill. Only short sighted Chinese cannot see this. Even a once neutral country like Indonesia is beginning to say what is going on China, clarify yourself or else I might take you to court.

"Take you to court"

 

[dichoi]

"Take you to court"

Its going soon, just wait !!!

 

[Economic superpower]

Its going soon, just wait !!!

I'm sure China is very scared.

 

[dichoi]

I'm sure China is very scared.

who does not respect rules of the law and regulations in China, he is terrorist or criminal.

 

[Zsari]

Firstly, UNCLOS only allows you to build artificial island on reefs that are within your EEZ or territorial sea. Thats why it is illegal when those reefs dont fall within your EEZ or territorial sea.

Secondly, those artificial islands (and freedom of navigation) doesnt really matters and is not the real motive behind the current dispute. They are only used to wage a PR wars against China and your reputation just went downhill. Only short sighted Chinese cannot see this. Even a once neutral country like Indonesia is beginning to say what is going on China, clarify yourself or else I might take you to court.

Why doesn't people read the relevant article before making erroneous statements, especially when the specific article is provided for? Freedom to construct artificial island in the HIGH SEA is written under the same article as freedom of navigation.

 

[Economic superpower]

who does not respect rules of the law and regulations in China, he is terrorist or criminal.

Rules are not followed by big powers.

 

[William Hung]

Why doesn't people read the relevant article before making erroneous statements, especially when the specific article is provided for? Freedom to construct artificial island in the HIGH SEA is written under the same article as freedom of navigation.

No, you do not understand the legal context of this dispute. China is claiming sovereignty over the seas within the 9 dash lines...China is not claiming that it is exercising its right to build artificial islands in “high seas” but is justifying its right to build within its sovereignty claim.

You do not understand the legal aspect of this. If China is claiming to build in “high seas” (which China has never claimed so) then China would face bigger legal implication (example: 9 dash line would dissappear because admitting they are high seas means declaring they are international water, which means VN and the PHL are free to claim EEZ past your 9 dash, etc.). China is claiming sovereignty over the area, not high seas. The problem now is, how is China claiming sovereignty? those artificial islands are not in Chinese EEZ or continental shelf, which means China cannot legally justify themselve based on sovereignty. Thats why China dont dare to go to court.

You do not even understand the situation and the official stance of your government.

Rules are not followed by big powers.

Admitting this is already a defeat for your dream of becoming a world leader, or even just a leader of the region. And that is why the US is welcomed back. Even Japan is now welcomed to the SCS dispute, which your leaders just recently got really upset about.

Countries will surely continue to use you and accept your loans and investments, but they will not see you as a leader that they can trust (especially if you say you dont follow rules). Just like how Xi visited Vietnam to try to make friends with us. We accepted your loans and investments (why not? lol) but at the same time invited Japan to our port and for future exercise in the SCS. Malaysia also now accepted to allow US navy to dock in their ports.

 

[GS Zhou]

I hope one day I could spend my vacation at a beautiful resorts at one of the artificial islands on the South China Sea. So no need for me to waste money at Maldives.

Its going soon, just wait !!!

Why don't dissolve the VN army to hire more elite lawyers to protect Vietnam?

 

[cirr]

I hope one day I could spend my vacation at a beautiful resorts at one of the artificial islands on the South China Sea. So no need for me to waste money at Maldives.

That day is not far off

 

[Pulsar]

So what is Obama going to do? Nuke China?

There's nothing Obama can do except a few worthless sound-bites.

 

[badguy2000]

So what is Obama going to do? Nuke China?

There's nothing Obama can do except a few worthless sound-bites.

sound-bite is necessory,althought Obama know its useless.

it will be before long that China would acutally control south China sea,because USA can not prevent China at all,unless USA were to launch WW III.

Of course, Even after China controll south CHina sea actually, CHina would also defend the right of free navigation there,because CHina also benefits from highsea free navigation