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Obama calls India a job-creating giant for USA


Mumbai visit business oriented; New Delhi stop focuses on culture

NEW DELHI, India — The first couple showed a softer side of President Obama's agenda Sunday in India, chatting with high school students in New Delhi and celebrating a major religious festival.

The president and his wife, Michelle, spent their morning at Holy Name High School, where students in their school uniforms gave the Obamas a detailed explanation of one of their projects — a miniature village with a windmill running power to it.

The Obamas were also set to watch a performance in honor of Diwali, an important festival for Hindus and Sikhs. Obama has called it an honor to be the first president to celebrate the festival of lights at the White House last year.

The revelry came a day after the president embraced India as the next jobs-creating giant for hurting Americans, not a cheap-labor rival that outsources opportunity from the United States.

Fresh off a political trouncing at home, Obama was determined to show tangible, economic results on his long Asia trip, and that was apparent from almost the moment he set foot on a steamy afternoon in the world's largest democracy. By the end of the first of his three days in India, he was promoting $10 billion in trade deals — completed in time for his visit — that the White House says will create about 54,000 jobs at home.

That's a modest gain compared with the extent of the enduring jobless crisis in the United States. Economists say it would require on the level of 300,000 new jobs a month to put a real dent in an unemployment rate stuck near 10 percent.

Yet to Obama, the bigger picture was the lucrative potential of an unleashed trading relationship between India and the United States. He seemed comfortable and energized away from Washington, days removed from the GOP's election thumping.


"For America, this is a jobs strategy," Obama said of his emphasis on trade, although it could stand as a motto for his 10-day trip. He is spending Sunday with young people in Mumbai and then heading onto meetings in New Delhi, the capital, before shifting later in the week ahead to Indonesia and economic talks in South Korea and Japan.

In India for the first time, Obama quickly got a sense of riches and poverty, history and tragedy.

His helicopter ride into this bustling financial center took in some of the country's slums. His luxury accommodation for the night, the Taj Mahal hotel, was one of the sites of a terrorist rampage in Mumbai that killed 166 people. Obama and his wife, Michelle, paid quiet tribute to the 31 people slain at the hotel, looking over their names inscribed in a memorial before meeting with victims' families and survivors of the shootings.

"We visit here to send a very clear message that in our determination to give our people a future of security and prosperity, the United States and India stand united," Obama said from an outdoor plaza, the soaring Gateway of India and the Arabian Sea behind him. "We'll never forget."

Indian commentators seized on the president's failure to mention Pakistan, India's neighbor and bitter rival. Pakistan was home to the 10 assailants.

The president also celebrated the life of a personal hero, Mohandas K. Gandhi, a father of Indian independence and model of peaceful activism. The Obamas spent time at the home-turned-museum where Gandhi once lived. They signed personal messages into the guest book and pledged to bring their daughters, Sasha and Malia, back one day.

Obama directly addressed the belief in the U.S. that India is robbing Americans of jobs. He acknowledged that many Americans only know trade and global commerce as the source of a job shipped overseas.

"There still exists a caricature of India as a land of call centers and back offices that cost American jobs. That's a real perception," Obama said. He noted the real concern in India that American corporate giants, if welcomed, would run mom-and-pop stories out of business and upend Indian culture.

Seeking to dismiss all "old stereotypes," Obama said the relationship between the countries is "creating jobs, growth, and higher living standards in both our countries. And that is the truth."

In the fallout of the U.S. elections, in which Democrats lost control of the House and Obama's ability to connect with his country was called into doubt, the president said one lesson learned was the need to set a better tone with business leaders. He was effusive on that front in Mumbai, gathering with top U.S. executives and studying up on their commerce with India.

"Just around this table you're seeing billions of dollars in orders from U.S. companies, tens of thousands of jobs being supported," he said. "We're a potential that has barely been scratched."

The White House arranged for four American chief executives who are in India for the occasion to brief reporters traveling with the president. They played up the importance of India as a trading partner and praised Obama's decision to come to the country to underscore that point in person.

"India represents the 14th-largest trading partner of the United States. Why? With all of the opportunity, it should be so much bigger," said Terry McGraw, chairman and chief executive of the McGraw-Hill Companies.

Obama said, "There is no reason this nation can't be one of our top trading partners."

To that end he said the U.S. would put forward a package of reforms on export controls that resulted from past administrations' concerns about India's nuclear industry. The changes, which have been much sought-after in the business community, include relaxing controls on India's purchase of so-called "dual use" technologies that could be used for civilian or military purposes, and removing a few of the last remaining Indian companies on a so-called "entities list" of groups that face restrictions on doing business in the U.S.

The commercial deals include the purchase of 33 737s from Boeing by India's SpiceJet Airlines worth an estimated $2.7 billion at list prices; the Indian military's plans to buy aircraft engines from General Electric; and preliminary agreement between Boeing and the Indian Air Force on the purchase of 10 C17 transport planes, worth about $4.5 billion.

For the most part, the deals were already pending, but the White House contends Obama's visit to India helped finalize them. Officials said the deals would support 53,670 U.S. jobs, but it was not clear how many, if any, new jobs would be created as a result.

Progress will take much more than public understanding. India's infrastructure remains an impediment to progress. And Obama's challenged India on the sore spot of shrinking its own barriers to trade and foreign investment. But his larger message was one of the united values and missions of the two largest democracies in the world.

Making that point, Obama even generated some laughter at his own expense, offering a reminder of the troubles at home.

"Our countries are blessed with the most effective form of government the world has ever known: democracy," he said. "Even if it can be slow at times. Even if it can be messy. Even if, sometimes, the election doesn't turn out as you'd like."

Onkar Kanwar, chairman of India's largest tire manufacturer, Apollo Tyres, said he appreciated the symbolism of Obama's coming to India during his first term and choosing to visit Mumbai first.

"Ties are getting closer and closer, which needs to be done. ... This demonstrates his commitment to another large democracy where he sees a lot of synergies," Kanwar said. "He's done all right."

Obamas turn to in India culture - Politics - msnbc.com
 
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It would be a shame if we could not capitalize on this advantage and sadly, so far GoI seems to be incapable to.

Today's day is very interesting. Lets see what our PM and Obama can come up with.
 
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Got to hand it to Obama, he isn't going with the typical anti-foreigner stereotypes that have been coming out before the November elections.

E.g. "China and India are stealing our jobs!" And other such nonsense. The whole point of international trade is mutual benefits, if you're not getting any benefits, then cut your imports and stop consuming so much.
 
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Got to hand it to Obama, he isn't going with the typical anti-foreigner stereotypes that have been coming out before the November elections.

E.g. "China and India are stealing our jobs!" And other such nonsense. The whole point of international trade is mutual benefits, if you're not getting any benefits, then cut your imports and stop consuming so much.

OR increase your exports to cut the trade deficit. Thats what Obama plans to do with India.

I wonder what policy would he employ against China where the Chinese enjoy a significant trade advantage over the Americans.
 
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OR increase your exports to cut the trade deficit. Thats what Obama plans to do with India.

I wonder what policy would he employ against China where the Chinese enjoy a significant trade advantage over the Americans.

It's the "Credit card culture" that causes problems for them. If the average American wants to consume 5 times as much as the average Chinese person, then what can be done.

All they have to do really, is tighten their belts and stop splurging on Chinese-made goods at Walmart, and their deficit will go down.

China (and India) have the highest "savings rates" in the world. The Americans should take this into account, and start living more frugally, i.e. saving instead of spending.
 
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It's the "Credit card culture" that causes problems for them. If the average American wants to consume 5 times as much as the average Chinese person, then what can be done.

All they have to do really, is tighten their belts and stop splurging on Chinese-made goods at Walmart, and their deficit will go down. Just put the Credit cards away.

I think you are right but knowing and working with the Americans for long, I doubt if they will stop splurging instead they will make the opposite party splurge equally so that they both come on the same page.

American style, you see ! :lol:
 
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OR increase your exports to cut the trade deficit. Thats what Obama plans to do with India.

I wonder what policy would he employ against China where the Chinese enjoy a significant trade advantage over the Americans.

I think Geithner came up with a plan to reduce trade deficits by putting a cap on the maximum amount of trade surplus a country can have. His proposal got defeated at a recent G20 finance ministers meeting in Seoul. It's amusing the U.S is trying to defeat the Chinese export machine by promoting global communism.
 
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I think Geithner came up with a plan to reduce trade deficits by putting a cap on the maximum amount of trade surplus a country can have. His proposal got defeated at a recent G20 finance ministers meeting in Seoul. It's amusing the U.S is trying to defeat the Chinese export machine by promoting global communism.

And now the Americans are doing "QE2" to pump some money into their economy, which will end up devaluing the dollar...

BBC News - China, Germany and South Africa criticise US stimulus

Germany, China, Brazil and South Africa have criticised US plans to pump $600bn (£373bn) into the US economy.

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said the US policy was "clueless" and would create "extra problems for the world".

The US Federal Reserve could weaken the US dollar and hurt exports to America.
 
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I think Geithner came up with a plan to reduce trade deficits by putting a cap on the maximum amount of trade surplus a country can have. His proposal got defeated at a recent G20 finance ministers meeting in Seoul. It's amusing the U.S is trying to defeat the Chinese export machine by promoting global communism.

India and China with a combined consuming audience of 2.5 billion people (almost 40% of world population) are still unsaturated markets in many disciplines are a perfect diet for the global American conglomerates to expand their operations.

The almost $450 billion China-US trade will become $600 billion in the next few years and along with that the trade balance will shift even more in China's favour. I think its natural for US to be worried about it.

Successful lowering of trade deficit (but maintaining or increasing the trade turnover) by US against China will create more jobs in the USA than what India will ever be able to create in the US.

Surely, the US focus is on China, just that they are taking an easy pick like India along.
 
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India and China with a combined consuming audience of 2.5 billion people (almost 40% of world population) are still unsaturated markets in many disciplines are a perfect diet for the global American conglomerates to expand their operations.

Yes, those are OUR markets. We don't need to do any favours for American multinational corporations.

The benefits of having such large domestic markets, should go back to our OWN people, rather than into the pockets of US shareholders.

Luckily the Chinese and Indian governments have already laid down plenty of restrictions to serve this purpose.
 
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Yes, those are OUR markets. We don't need to do any favours for American multinational corporations.

The benefits of having such large domestic markets, should go back to our OWN people, rather than into the pockets of US shareholders.

Luckily the Chinese and Indian governments have laid down plenty of restrictions to serve this purpose.

Yes but that depends on the policies of our governments.

Not all governments are strong.

China is certainly strong. GoI is sometimes known to wilt under American pressure.
 
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How can out-sourcing jobs to India create jobs For Americans?

That makes no sense whatsoever.
 
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How can out-sourcing jobs to India create jobs For Americans?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

It is not about out sourcing! It goes like that!
India will buy lots and lots of things such as military equipment etc from America and consequently more jobs for Americans in America! Shortly, India will have to spend lots and lots of money of their 1 billion poor public on American goods to keep them happy!
 
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How can out-sourcing jobs to India create jobs For Americans?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

No, it is not outsourcing that he is talking about. He is hoping to increase American exports to India . And he is also hoping for increased Indian investment in USA.
India Inc. already has an (investment) presence in USA and North America. Pharma, IT and Telecom are some of the major areas of business where Indian companies have bought into in USA. But there is scope for more. And major Indian companies have money in their war-chests to increase that.

The money will come in large measure from the Indian private sector, e.g. the deal for 33 passenger aircraft for a private airline (this kind of business will be recurrent); while some of it will be Governmental e.g. defence deals (which will be non-recurrent). But it will be a major infusion of money in to the US economy apart from creating jobs in the US.
BTW, "outsourcing" is a fashionable expression nowadays, for whatever reason. But outsourcing is actually "job-migration" by another name. And with Globalisation of the economies, job-migration is inevitable. That trend cannot be reversed; not even by the President of the most powerful country on the planet.
 
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