NYC car bomb suspect pleads guilty, calls it 'war'

[Icarus]

I see the drones as an effective weapon against terrorist in countrys that lack the will, courage, or ability to fight terrorist on their own, where there is one drone today there will be hundreds in the future.

Drone strikes are being done with the consent of the GoP and as long as they get rid off scum bags like Baitullah and Hakimullah Mehsud, I scarcely have a problem with them but your statement upsets me greatly "Lack the courage, will or ability to fight terrorists " ?
We have lost more innocent civilians to these terrorists than any other country, only during 2007-09, we lost 5,500 men, women and children to the terrorists.
We have lost more soldiers to the terrorists than all NATO and ISAF casualties COMBINED.
We have lost 2 trillion dollars to this terrorist menace.
We conducted the world's largest heli borne operation in Swat valley where commandos were dropped behind enemy lines on rock faces less than two feet broad, and mind you, it was successful.
What America has not been able to accomplish with it's $711 Billion budget, B-2, B-52s, NVGs, F-18s and M4s we did it with Klashnikovs, helicopters and RPG-7s, we brought the terrorists to their knees and destroyed their operational capacity.
So next time be careful about what you say.

 

[Icarus]

This might shed some light on Pakistan's financial losses:



ISLAMABAD, Nov 14 (APP): Pakistan has spent over Rs. 2082.942 billion on War on Terrorism since 2004, a document released by Ministry of Finance said here on Friday. This included direct cost of Rs.450.222 billion and indirect cost of Rs. 1632.720 billion, said the Draft Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper-II, released here.
The economy suffered direct and indirect losses in terms of exports, foreign investment, privatization, industrial production and tax collection because of the continuing war on terror.
According to the document, the war on terrorism cost Pakistan Rs.259.103 billion in financial year 2004-05, Rs.300.780 billion in FY2005-06, Rs.360.899 billion in FY 2006-07, Rs. 484.367 billion in FY 2007-08 and Rs.677.793 billion in the current financial year.
Giving break up, the document said that the country suffered direct cost of Rs.67.103 billion in FY 2004-05, Rs.78.060 billion in FY 2005-06, Rs.82.499 billion in FY 2006-07, Rs.108.527 billion in FY 2007-08 and Rs.114.033 billion in the current financial year.
Similarly, Pakistan suffered indirect cost of Rs.192.000 billion in 2004-05, Rs.222.720 billion in 2005-06, Rs.278,400 billion in 2006-07, Rs.375.840 billion in 2007-08 and Rs.563.760 billion in current Financial year 2008-09.
According to the document, Pakistan’s participation in the anti-terrorism campaign has led to the massive unemployment in the affected regions.
Frequent bombings, worsening law and order situation and displacement of the local population have taken a toll on the socio-economic fabric of the country, it added.
“The government is in the process of devising a strategic policy to overcome the menace of terrorism which have captivated the entire country,” the document added.
The anti-terrorist campaign, which began as a result of the unfortunate 9/11 event in the United States in 2001, over-strained Pakistan’s budget as allocation for law enforcement agencies had to be increased significantly.
This resulted in erosion of resources for the development projects all over Pakistan, particularly FATA and NWFP areas in addition to human sufferings and resettlement costs.
The document said that since the start of anti-terrorism campaign, an overall sense of uncertainty has prevailed in the country which contributed to capital flight, as well as slowed down domestic economic activity, making foreign investors jittery.
“It is apprehended that Foreign Direct Investment, which witnessed a steep rise over the past several years may be adversely affected by the ongoing anti-terrorism campaign in FATA and other areas of NWFP,” it added.
The document said that Pakistan’s participation in the international campaign has led to an excessive increase in the country’s credit risk, which has in turn made borrowing from the market extremely expensive.
It said that Pakistan’s sovereign bonds have under-performed due to increased law and order concerns amongst other reasons including domestic political and economic stability.


Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - War on terror causes Pakistan loss of over Rs.2 trillion

 

[Icarus]

As for the loss of life:

Extract:
Militants intensified their campaign in 2009, specifically targeting Pakistan’s urban centres, according to the interior ministry’s National Crisis Management Cell. Officials recorded 1,906 terror attacks in the country, resultng in 1,835 deaths and 5,194 injuries, from January 2009 to April 2010.


Pakistan has become an epicentre of terrorist activity since late 2001. At least 8,141 terrorist attacks have killed 8,875 civilians and law-enforcement personnel, and injured 20,675, between the end of 2002 and April 2010.

Pakistan’s economy hit hard by war on terror
By Sohail Ahmed
For CentralAsiaOnline.com
2010-06-18


ISLAMABAD -- Terrorism in Pakistan cost the nation 6% of its Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in 2009-10, and has killed nearly 9,000 Pakistanis in the past eight years.


Terrorism has taken a heavy toll on Pakistan’s economy since 2001, according to Pakistan’s 2009-2010 economic survey report released earlier this month by the Ministry of Finance.


Militants intensified their campaign in 2009, specifically targeting Pakistan’s urban centres, according to the interior ministry’s National Crisis Management Cell. Officials recorded 1,906 terror attacks in the country, resultng in 1,835 deaths and 5,194 injuries, from January 2009 to April 2010.


Pakistan has become an epicentre of terrorist activity since late 2001. At least 8,141 terrorist attacks have killed 8,875 civilians and law-enforcement personnel, and injured 20,675, between the end of 2002 and April 2010.


Casualty tolls do not capture the cumulative effects of terrorism on the country, however.


Lives, homes and incomes have been disrupted, and education jeopardized for virtually a whole generation of school-age children in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and the Federally Administered Tribal, according to the report.


Terrorism cost Pakistan more than US $43 billion between 2001 and 2010, the ministry reported. Its impact on the economy has greatly increased since 2007-08, according to the report, as the Pakistani army has begun large-scale military operations in the country’s tribal areas.


A decline in GDP growth, reductions in investment, lost exports, unemployment and the depreciation and inflation of incomes and exchange rates are the most affected areas of Pakistan’s economy.


The price of security-related and civil relief operations, for instance, demonstrates the magnitude of terrorism’s direct costs: Pakistan has spent an additional US $4 billion since 2007, the ministry reports, or 2.4% of the average GDP.

The government has also spent US $600m during this fiscal year to help the more than 3m people displaced by terrorism and counter-terrorism operations.


Pakistan may face a “permanent” degree of welfare loss due to the diversion of development spending toward the security budget, capital flight and brain drain, and due to the trade diversion it has suffered since 2001, according to the report.


Total energy consumption declined 5.2% in 2009 versus 2008, and consumption in the industry sector fell by 11.7%, as a result of the energy crisis, according to the report.


Electricity use in the industrial sector fell by 6.5% while gas consumption by the industrial sector declined by 8.2%.

 

[Icarus]

And if you still don't feel ashamed at your statement, here is, for your viewing a list of charts that records our sacrifices for the WoT.


Fatalities in Terrorist Violence in Pakistan 2003-2010

 

[Icarus]

Enlighten yourself about the WoT.

MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching it

 

[Ras]

We need to keep a close eye on overseas Pakstanis and their activities. I am in favour of the recent steps such as POC and OPF roster, all these things are good to keep track.

I am also very much in favour of sabre installed in major airports in Pakistan and the cooperation we have with international agencies. What i am dissapointed about is the way the west seems to be handling the whole issue of wanna be jihadi's.

Unless the root cause is addressed, this sad cycle will continue.

Pakistan is NOT responsible for overseas Pakistanis...they are no more Pakistani citizens. All Pakistan needs to take care off is that they don't come back to Pakistan and learn how to blow people up or get inspired to do so.

 

[EgO Boy]

SITARON SAY AAGAY JAHAN OOR BHI HAIN
ABHI ISHK KAY IMTAHAN OOR BHI HAIN.

AND THE WAR GOES ON..........................................................