Nuclear weapons only for strategic deterrence: Army chief

[Chinese-Dragon]

The fact is that India hasn't retaliated or taken action so far despite the gravest provocations. You should be condemning these provocations and urging pak to stop these provocations.

The Indian position, is that the Pakistani state was complicit in the Mumbai attacks, and in other terrorist attacks in general.

I don't follow that position, so why would I condemn them for something that I don't believe they did?

Just because a criminal/militant comes from a specific country, does not make that country responsible for the actions of that person.

 

[Smarterthanyou]

CD the resident hong kong general has given you Indians a great solution to any Chinese threat. Build a missile similar to NASR and simply lobby them on your border areas when Chinese infiltrate the next time. They won't retaliate because you have this great weapon at hand as a deterrent.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

CD the resident hong kong general has given you Indians a great solution to any Chinese threat. Build a missile similar to NASR and simply lobby them on your border areas when Chinese infiltrate the next time. They won't retaliate because you have this great weapon at hand as a deterrent.

Give me a heads up when you Indians actually retaliate to one of these so-called "border incursions".

 

[Smarterthanyou]

The Indian position, is that the Pakistani state was complicit in the Mumbai attacks, and in other terrorist attacks in general.

I don't follow that position, so why would I condemn them for something that I don't believe they did?

Just because a criminal/militant comes from a specific country, does not make that country responsible for the actions of that person.

You false flagger lol.

This is where you lose all creditability . You chose to say ridiculous things that defy reality. But you want to believe that unarmed monks are terrorist or blind dissenters are dangerous to your countries existence.

 

[janon]

Mumbai wasn't state-sponsored and ISI actually tried to help India avoiding mumbai. So pul-eeeseee forget that any Mumbai,in which Pakistan is not even involved,would give India chance to strike Pakistan? Never.Period.

So again its YOUR choice...want to invade Pakistan? Cool...have no problems with that...

Also just for two divisions vaporized on ENEMY territory,you'd launch a nuclear strike on Pak? mmmm really? realistically? Well then be ready to see Mumbai , Hyderabad , Delhi , Chennai , Deccan , Kolkata etc etc etc getting vaporized into the air like fire's smoke. India would be a loser in such contest because in the nuclear war , "survivor" is the loser ! Pakistan won't be there no more but your GENERATIONS will SUFFER for eternity.

So again situation is simple :

Not mess with us , we won't mess with you.
Mess with us , we will see you in hell then .....

Deccan???

Anyway, we have heard these statements of bravado before. I am not going to sit and predict who will win a nuclear war. Given pakistan's geography, I think the answer is simple. Anyway you have made your point - that you will win by getting annihilated. And you have invented a new meaning to loser and winner - the survivor is the loser and the annihilated one is the victor according to you. Oh well.

If it was that easy, why do you have such a large army and air force, all you need are a hundred nuclear missiles, right? There must be some reason that pakistan has infantry, armour, artillery, fighters etc? If the plan is to simply use nukes at the drop of a hat, then something is wrong with your entire military existence. So I think your military planners have other ideas in mind.

Also - India has no desire to mess with pak. The only reason we may need to inflict punishing strikes is in the event of more terrorist activity. India doesn't need an inch of pakistani territory, but there are many in pak who still dream of taking kashmir. As far as intentions go, we both know who has the intent, but not the capability.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You false flagger lol.

Find me one Chinese person who agrees that the Pakistani state was responsible for the Mumbai attacks.

That is the Indian position, nobody else believes it. Even India doesn't believe it, since they didn't retaliate.

 

[tjpf]

Give me a heads up when you Indians actually retaliate to one of these so-called "border incursions".

surely you can go and hide. we will give you a heads up

 

[janon]

Find me one Chinese person who agrees that the Pakistani state was responsible for the Mumbai attacks.

That is the Indian position, nobody else believes it. Even India doesn't believe it, since they didn't retaliate.

Ok, then we won't be retaliating against the pakistani STATE. We will try to hit the terrorist training camps and "non state actors" there. But the pakistani military would of course try to prevent that, and thats where the whole cold start thing comes in.

So if your point is that it was pakistani terrorists but not pakistan that did it, thats our response. We will in future when we develop the capability, hit pakistani terror camps, but not the pakistani state or government. Happy?

In short:
Your point - it was pakistanis who did mumbai, not pakistan.
Our response - ok, we will strike those pakistanis, but not pakistan.

 

[StormShadow]

Tell that to Nasr.

To hell with Nasr. We have Prahaar. Nasr range is 60kms...only useful to nuke yourself. Prahaar has a range of 150kms which is also a "tactical nuclear weapon". So...using your high IQ level think who can inflict max damage.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Ok, then we won't be retaliating against the pakistani STATE. We will try to hit the terrorist training camps and "non state actors" there. But the pakistani military would of course try to prevent that, and thats where the whole cold start thing comes in.

So if your point is that it was pakistani terrorists but not pakistan that did it, thats our response. We will in future when we develop the capability, hit pakistani terror camps, but not the pakistani state or government. Happy?

Obviously if an enemy nation like India strikes at targets within the Pakistani border, that would be a declaration of war.

If China needs to get to militants who are suspected of travelling to Pakistan, do you know what we do? We ask them nicely. And they extradite any ETIM militants they can find back to us.

 

[ares]

Tell that to Nasr.

Obviously if, CO on the other side is not a fanboi ..he would already know this fact ..that use of nuclear battlefield nuclear weapons will mean end of his country.

 

[janon]

Obviously if an enemy nation like India strikes at targets within the Pakistani border, that would be a declaration of war.

If China needs to get to militants who are suspected of travelling to Pakistan, do you know what we do? We ask them nicely. And they extradite any ETIM militants they can find back to us.

Good, that is what any sane country would do. And that is what India has tried for the past few decades. Hasn't worked. They didn't even acknowledge that the miscreants were pakistanis, until they couldn't keep up the facade any longer. Some pakistanis on this forum still can't admit that.

You think India hasn't asked? You ought to be more informed.

But now I see you have begun to appreciate our difficulties and begun to follow our thought process. Continue with that thought process. You ask them nicely, they don't respond. Then more terrorists sneak in, you ask nicely, they don;t respond. You show them satellite photos of terror camps on their soil, they don't respond. Then what do you do? Keep asking nicely? Be honest.

 

[oct605032048]

Ok, then we won't be retaliating against the pakistani STATE. We will try to hit the terrorist training camps and "non state actors" there. But the pakistani military would of course try to prevent that, and thats where the whole cold start thing comes in.

So if your point is that it was pakistani terrorists but not pakistan that did it, thats our response. We will in future when we develop the capability, hit pakistani terror camps, but not the pakistani state or government. Happy?

According to your logic, we should bomb Dharamsala decades ago.

It is really hard to believe a country like India talking something so chauvinistic as if they were John Bull. Any movements by the Indian side against any targets in Pakistan will be understood as a part of full scale open war and maybe a nuclear war. China, no matter willingly or not, will be involved as well.

 

[oct605032048]

Ok, then we won't be retaliating against the pakistani STATE. We will try to hit the terrorist training camps and "non state actors" there. But the pakistani military would of course try to prevent that, and thats where the whole cold start thing comes in.

So if your point is that it was pakistani terrorists but not pakistan that did it, thats our response. We will in future when we develop the capability, hit pakistani terror camps, but not the pakistani state or government. Happy?

According to your logic, we should bomb Dharamsala decades ago.

It is really hard to believe a country like India talking something so chauvinistic as if they were John Bull. Any movement by the Indian side against any target in Pakistan will be understood as a part of full scale open war and maybe nuclear war. China, no matter willingly or not, will be involved as well.

 

[Smarterthanyou]

Find me one Chinese person who agrees that the Pakistani state was responsible for the Mumbai attacks.

That is the Indian position, nobody else believes it. Even India doesn't believe it, since they didn't retaliate.

That's like an Iranian saying : Find me one Iranian who does not think amerika is behind every bad thing that happens to it

The entire sane world believes it and world leaders have made statements supporting it. As I said, you Chinese have zero creditability on this. This is why people snicker at your claims that unarmed monks are terrorist. Chinese like yourself not believing this to be true does not advance it as the truth, just like Iranians saying the holocaust was a myth, does not make it creditable .