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, never heard such a load of hogwash before.Nuclear Power Saudi Arabia’ Uranium Mining began
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, never heard such a load of hogwash before.
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That is because you think hogwash.. do your search..Keyboard mill gaya to kuch bhi bolo gay kya
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So it has begun in certain circles.
http://thehill.com/opinion/national...abia-are-bad-business-and-dangerous-diplomacy
#WORLD NEWS
DECEMBER 21, 2017 / 6:02 PM / 21 DAYS AGO
Saudi Arabia should not forfeit 'sovereign' right to enrich uranium: senior prince
Rania El Gamal, Katie Pau
RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia should not forfeit its “sovereign” right to one day enrich uranium under its planned civilian nuclear program, especially as world powers have allowed Iran to do so, a senior Saudi royal told Reuters.
FILE PHOTO: Prince Turki bin Faisal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia gestures during the session "Iraq and Syria: The Strategic Context" in the Swiss mountain resort of Davos January 22, 2015. REUTERS/Ruben Sprich
Former intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal’s comments reinforced Riyadh’s stance on what is likely to be a sensitive issue in talks between Saudi Arabia and the United States on an agreement to help the kingdom develop atomic energy.
Riyadh aims to start talks with the United States within weeks on a civilian nuclear cooperation pact, which is essential if U.S. firms are to bid in a multi-billion-dollar tender next year for building Saudi Arabia’s first two nuclear reactors.
The reactors will be part of a wider program to produce electricity from atomic energy so that the kingdom can export more crude oil.
Riyadh says it wants nuclear technology only for peaceful uses but has left unclear whether it also wants to enrich uranium to produce nuclear fuel, a process which can also be used in the production of atomic weapons.
U.S. companies can usually transfer nuclear technology to another country only if the United States has signed an agreement with that country ruling out domestic uranium enrichment and the preprocessing of spent nuclear fuel -- steps that can have military uses.
“It’s a sovereign issue. If you look at the agreement between the P5+1 with Iran specifically it allows Iran to enrich,” Prince Turki, who now holds no government office but remains influential, said in an interview on Tuesday in Riyadh.
He was referring to the six countries -- the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany -- that reached a deal with Tehran in 2015, under which economic sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for the Islamic Republic curbing its nuclear energy program.
“The world community that supports the nuclear deal between the P5+1 and Iran told Iran you can enrich although the NPT (global non-proliferation treaty) tells us all we can enrich,” Prince Turki, a senior royal family member and a former ambassador to Washington, said.
“So the kingdom from that point of view will have the same right as the other members of the NPT, including Iran.”
“SELF-SUFFICIENCY”
The dual technology has been at the heart of Western and regional concerns over the nuclear work of Iran, Saudi Arabia’s regional rival. These worries helped lead to the 2015 deal, which allows Iran to enrich uranium to around the normal level needed for commercial power production.
Atomic reactors need uranium enriched to around five percent purity but the same technology can also be used to enrich the heavy metal to higher, weapons-grade levels.
Saudi Arabia plans to build 17.6 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear capacity by 2032, the equivalent of around 16 reactors.
Riyadh has previously said it wants to tap its own uranium resources for “self-sufficiency” in producing nuclear fuel.
Energy Minister Khalid al-Falih told Reuters on Wednesday that said these large resources were being explored, were promising and that Saudi Arabia would like to localize the industry in the long-term.
Prince Turki said the only way to stop uranium enrichment would be by establishing a nuclear weapons-free zone in the Middle East, a longstanding idea which has been backed by the U.N.’s nuclear assembly.
“This is not going to happen overnight. You have to set a time scale for negotiations to include regional discussions between the prospective members of the zone on issues not just of nuclear, but of achieving peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine,” he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...to-enrich-uranium-senior-prince-idUSKBN1EF287
When the great Prince Turki speaks you keep quite and listen.
http://thehill.com/opinion/national...abia-are-bad-business-and-dangerous-diplomacy
#WORLD NEWS
DECEMBER 21, 2017 / 6:02 PM / 21 DAYS AGO
Saudi Arabia should not forfeit 'sovereign' right to enrich uranium: senior prince
Rania El Gamal, Katie Pau
RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia should not forfeit its “sovereign” right to one day enrich uranium under its planned civilian nuclear program, especially as world powers have allowed Iran to do so, a senior Saudi royal told Reuters.
FILE PHOTO: Prince Turki bin Faisal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia gestures during the session "Iraq and Syria: The Strategic Context" in the Swiss mountain resort of Davos January 22, 2015. REUTERS/Ruben Sprich
Former intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal’s comments reinforced Riyadh’s stance on what is likely to be a sensitive issue in talks between Saudi Arabia and the United States on an agreement to help the kingdom develop atomic energy.
Riyadh aims to start talks with the United States within weeks on a civilian nuclear cooperation pact, which is essential if U.S. firms are to bid in a multi-billion-dollar tender next year for building Saudi Arabia’s first two nuclear reactors.
The reactors will be part of a wider program to produce electricity from atomic energy so that the kingdom can export more crude oil.
Riyadh says it wants nuclear technology only for peaceful uses but has left unclear whether it also wants to enrich uranium to produce nuclear fuel, a process which can also be used in the production of atomic weapons.
U.S. companies can usually transfer nuclear technology to another country only if the United States has signed an agreement with that country ruling out domestic uranium enrichment and the preprocessing of spent nuclear fuel -- steps that can have military uses.
“It’s a sovereign issue. If you look at the agreement between the P5+1 with Iran specifically it allows Iran to enrich,” Prince Turki, who now holds no government office but remains influential, said in an interview on Tuesday in Riyadh.
He was referring to the six countries -- the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany -- that reached a deal with Tehran in 2015, under which economic sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for the Islamic Republic curbing its nuclear energy program.
“The world community that supports the nuclear deal between the P5+1 and Iran told Iran you can enrich although the NPT (global non-proliferation treaty) tells us all we can enrich,” Prince Turki, a senior royal family member and a former ambassador to Washington, said.
“So the kingdom from that point of view will have the same right as the other members of the NPT, including Iran.”
“SELF-SUFFICIENCY”
The dual technology has been at the heart of Western and regional concerns over the nuclear work of Iran, Saudi Arabia’s regional rival. These worries helped lead to the 2015 deal, which allows Iran to enrich uranium to around the normal level needed for commercial power production.
Atomic reactors need uranium enriched to around five percent purity but the same technology can also be used to enrich the heavy metal to higher, weapons-grade levels.
Saudi Arabia plans to build 17.6 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear capacity by 2032, the equivalent of around 16 reactors.
Riyadh has previously said it wants to tap its own uranium resources for “self-sufficiency” in producing nuclear fuel.
Energy Minister Khalid al-Falih told Reuters on Wednesday that said these large resources were being explored, were promising and that Saudi Arabia would like to localize the industry in the long-term.
Prince Turki said the only way to stop uranium enrichment would be by establishing a nuclear weapons-free zone in the Middle East, a longstanding idea which has been backed by the U.N.’s nuclear assembly.
“This is not going to happen overnight. You have to set a time scale for negotiations to include regional discussions between the prospective members of the zone on issues not just of nuclear, but of achieving peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine,” he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...to-enrich-uranium-senior-prince-idUSKBN1EF287
When the great Prince Turki speaks you keep quite and listen.
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#COMMODITIES
JANUARY 15, 2018 / 11:49 AM
Saudi Arabia aims to prequalify firms by April or May for first nuclear plant
Reuters Staff
3 MIN READ
ABU DHABI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia plans to prequalify for bidding firms from two or three countries by April or May for the first nuclear reactors it wants to build, a consultant for the government body working on the nuclear plans said on Monday.
Saudi Arabia, the world’s top oil exporter, wants nuclear power to diversify its energy supply mix, enabling it to export more crude rather than burning it to generate electricity.
It plans to build 17.6 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear capacity by 2032, the equivalent of around 16 reactors, making it one of the biggest prospects for an industry struggling after the 2011 nuclear disaster in Japan.
“Currently we are in the evaluation process for RFI (request for information) and we will hold discussions with them (suppliers) next month,” Abdul Malik al-Sabery, a consultant at the King Abdullah City for Atomic and Renewable Energy told reporters in Abu Dhabi.
Sabery said a joint venture between the Saudi government and the winning developers would be signed in 2019 after the shortlisting by end of 2018. Commissioning of the first plant, which will have two reactors with a total a capacity between 2 and 3.2 GW, is expected in 2027.
Saudi Arabia’s energy minister, Khalid al-Falih, said last month that he expected to sign contracts to build two nuclear reactors by the end of 2018.
Saudi Arabia has sent a request for information to international suppliers to build two reactors, the first step towards a formal tendering competition.
Sabery said Riyadh was currently evaluating requirements from five countries; China, Russia, South Korea, France and the United States.
Russian and South Korean companies have said they plan to bid and sources have told Reuters that Toshiba-owned U.S. company Westinghouse is in talks with U.S. rivals to form a bidding consortium. French state-controlled utility EDF also intends to take part in the tender.
Saudi Arabia is interested in reaching a civilian nuclear cooperation agreement with Washington, and Riyadh has invited U.S. firms to take part in developing the kingdom’s first atomic energy program.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-or-may-for-first-nuclear-plant-idUSKBN1F4187
@The SC @Arabi @PennisulaFalcon @Full Moon @Bubblegum Crisis @Saudi Typhoon @Gomig-21
Seems that I was right in my "suspicions" a few months ago in that related thread on the Arab section, The SC.
Meanwhile in other somewhat related news;
Great, great news.
Just for the fun of it and to create a relexed atmosphere in this thread that is otherwise about nuclear power and potentially nuclear weapons.
JANUARY 15, 2018 / 11:49 AM
Saudi Arabia aims to prequalify firms by April or May for first nuclear plant
Reuters Staff
3 MIN READ
ABU DHABI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia plans to prequalify for bidding firms from two or three countries by April or May for the first nuclear reactors it wants to build, a consultant for the government body working on the nuclear plans said on Monday.
Saudi Arabia, the world’s top oil exporter, wants nuclear power to diversify its energy supply mix, enabling it to export more crude rather than burning it to generate electricity.
It plans to build 17.6 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear capacity by 2032, the equivalent of around 16 reactors, making it one of the biggest prospects for an industry struggling after the 2011 nuclear disaster in Japan.
“Currently we are in the evaluation process for RFI (request for information) and we will hold discussions with them (suppliers) next month,” Abdul Malik al-Sabery, a consultant at the King Abdullah City for Atomic and Renewable Energy told reporters in Abu Dhabi.
Sabery said a joint venture between the Saudi government and the winning developers would be signed in 2019 after the shortlisting by end of 2018. Commissioning of the first plant, which will have two reactors with a total a capacity between 2 and 3.2 GW, is expected in 2027.
Saudi Arabia’s energy minister, Khalid al-Falih, said last month that he expected to sign contracts to build two nuclear reactors by the end of 2018.
Saudi Arabia has sent a request for information to international suppliers to build two reactors, the first step towards a formal tendering competition.
Sabery said Riyadh was currently evaluating requirements from five countries; China, Russia, South Korea, France and the United States.
Russian and South Korean companies have said they plan to bid and sources have told Reuters that Toshiba-owned U.S. company Westinghouse is in talks with U.S. rivals to form a bidding consortium. French state-controlled utility EDF also intends to take part in the tender.
Saudi Arabia is interested in reaching a civilian nuclear cooperation agreement with Washington, and Riyadh has invited U.S. firms to take part in developing the kingdom’s first atomic energy program.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-or-may-for-first-nuclear-plant-idUSKBN1F4187
@The SC @Arabi @PennisulaFalcon @Full Moon @Bubblegum Crisis @Saudi Typhoon @Gomig-21
Seems that I was right in my "suspicions" a few months ago in that related thread on the Arab section, The SC.
Meanwhile in other somewhat related news;
Great, great news.
Just for the fun of it and to create a relexed atmosphere in this thread that is otherwise about nuclear power and potentially nuclear weapons.
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I just don't like the time frame.. the first two reactors to be commissioned by 2027.. that leaves F***** 14 to be built till 2032 !? I prefer the UAE's deal to build4 concurrently.. with 2 years difference for commissioning them.. But then, we are talking about a JV..meaning transfer of nuclear technology..#COMMODITIES
JANUARY 15, 2018 / 11:49 AM
Saudi Arabia aims to prequalify firms by April or May for first nuclear plant
Reuters Staff
3 MIN READ
ABU DHABI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia plans to prequalify for bidding firms from two or three countries by April or May for the first nuclear reactors it wants to build, a consultant for the government body working on the nuclear plans said on Monday.
Saudi Arabia, the world’s top oil exporter, wants nuclear power to diversify its energy supply mix, enabling it to export more crude rather than burning it to generate electricity.
It plans to build 17.6 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear capacity by 2032, the equivalent of around 16 reactors, making it one of the biggest prospects for an industry struggling after the 2011 nuclear disaster in Japan.
“Currently we are in the evaluation process for RFI (request for information) and we will hold discussions with them (suppliers) next month,” Abdul Malik al-Sabery, a consultant at the King Abdullah City for Atomic and Renewable Energy told reporters in Abu Dhabi.
Sabery said a joint venture between the Saudi government and the winning developers would be signed in 2019 after the shortlisting by end of 2018. Commissioning of the first plant, which will have two reactors with a total a capacity between 2 and 3.2 GW, is expected in 2027.
Saudi Arabia’s energy minister, Khalid al-Falih, said last month that he expected to sign contracts to build two nuclear reactors by the end of 2018.
Saudi Arabia has sent a request for information to international suppliers to build two reactors, the first step towards a formal tendering competition.
Sabery said Riyadh was currently evaluating requirements from five countries; China, Russia, South Korea, France and the United States.
Russian and South Korean companies have said they plan to bid and sources have told Reuters that Toshiba-owned U.S. company Westinghouse is in talks with U.S. rivals to form a bidding consortium. French state-controlled utility EDF also intends to take part in the tender.
Saudi Arabia is interested in reaching a civilian nuclear cooperation agreement with Washington, and Riyadh has invited U.S. firms to take part in developing the kingdom’s first atomic energy program.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-or-may-for-first-nuclear-plant-idUSKBN1F4187
@The SC @Arabi @PennisulaFalcon @Full Moon @Bubblegum Crisis @Saudi Typhoon @Gomig-21
Seems that I was right in my "suspicions" a few months ago in that related thread on the Arab section, The SC.
Meanwhile in other somewhat related news;
Great, great news.
Just for the fun of it and to create a relexed atmosphere in this thread that is otherwise about nuclear power and potentially nuclear weapons.
BTW, I just found out the the UAE has also found Uranium a while ago.. and that most Saudi Arabian Uranium was found in Granite rocks..
Anyway, I think the scheme will be concurrent building of Nuclear plants from different sources if the announced time frame "by 2032" is to be taken seriously.. And I am not very fond of the US and French participation _apart from sharing technologies_..for historical reasons..
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I think that the Reuters article has committed a mistake in the translation as the plan is to finalize all 16 by 2030 or 2035 at latest.
As for uranium reserves, there is plenty in KSA not only in granite rocks, my friend.
Check out this article;
http://www-pub.iaea.org/mtcd/meetings/PDFplus/2009/cn175/URAM2009/Session 3/05_88_Howari_USA.pdf
KSA uranium reserves are estimated to be one of the largest in the world.
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I am thinking about the dates.. it is not the first time we hear that these first two will go online by 2027.. I have no Idea how the rest will go.. but there is surely a sound plan..
They say the most KSA's Uranium is found in Granite rocks, while other articles said in many other places including phosphate..
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Saudi surplus Uranium can be sold too.. just like the Australian uranium
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nuclear-power-in-saudi-arabia.539499/
In January 2015 the government said that its target for 17 GWe of nuclear capacity would be more like 2040.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nuclear-power-in-saudi-arabia.539499/
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We will have to wait and see. I have seen conflicting news and I would be surprised if those 16 + nuclear reactors are not up and running by at least 2035-2040.
As long as the significant uranium reserves are there (domestic) and they can be extracted, it is no problem.
Please read those scientific articles below brother;
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0167508784906562
https://www.nuenergy.org/theres-atomic-energy-in-granite/
The absolute key here is that all materials to make nuclear weapons are found in KSA.
Not going to happen. Good luck trying to destroy 100 + secret bases hidden in heavily mountainous areas or in the middle of the desert deep underground. Some of those bases are located in Hijaz. Tiny Israel does not have the capability (excluding their nuclear weapons) to do much against KSA due to sheer size (KSA is by far the biggest country in the region and the 12th or 11th biggest (can't remember) in the world.
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They only need to hit the right targets - not 100+ bases and such.
However, I don't see the possibility because Saudi Arabia is on the path towards modernization and it sees in Iran a much bigger threat than any other. Behind-the-scenes, Saudi and Israel are cool, if I am not mistaken.
Nonetheless, great developments in Saudi Arabia. Muhammad Bin Salman is a blessing in disguise for your country.
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A great job!!!! Do something, don't just go home and die....
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Do they have such capabilities? How will they know what is what? Are they able to prevent KSA from building 16 + nuclear reactors within the next few decades? The answer is no. Especially when KSA can choose from a list with names like China, Russia, USA, France and South Korea. The final result will most likely be a combination. Can Israel prevent KSA from enriching its own uranium reserves? This process already began. The answer is no.
The Iranian Mullah's are the biggest enemy currently but that does not mean that KSA and Israel are best friends or even have cordial ties. Some common interests exist but nothing more than that. When KSA signed that historic (110 billion USD) weapons deal with the US, Israeli officials were openly talking about "worry" and "the balance in the region potentially being altered".
KSA reacted similarly to the US decision of naming Jerusalem/Al-Quds as the capital and as recently as today the KSA parliament (Shoura) condemned the Israeli settlements in public.
I totally agree. King Salman and MbS have done wonders in the past 3 years. In a difficult situation moreover (Yemen war, low oil prices (although they have improved lately) and many other challenges).
