Now and never situation for PAKISTAN AIR FORCE

[BetterPakistan]

Let alone talking about pakistan capability to buy Su-35, you think Russia will give you any Su-35 thats hillarious

Let me drive you through some historical facts. Pakistan Air Force acquired 4th generation jets before you and this time we will move on to 5th gen jets before you. Our indigenous jet is way ahead than your tejas which is yet to be fully inducted. PAF isn't interested in Su-35 anymore because we are moving towards 5th gen and our block 3 JF-17 will be 4th+ gen jet so we don't need Su-35. Our 5th gen jet will fulfill our requirement for dual engine and long range fighter jets so Su-35 is not required. And as far as selling Su-35 is concerned, Russia sold Mi-35 to Pakistan Army and they had offered us other military equipment too.

India is interested in US F-35 but USA is offering old F-16 to India, this is hilarious

 

[cranwerkhan]

In short, don't argue. Don't forget that even if they fly paper planes, the PAF (or the PA, according to this acronym challenged expert) will beat anybody or anything that opposes it. From the anopheles mosquito to the Su30 MKI.

Next, you'll be denying that Pakistan won both in 65 and in 71, and it was only the pleas of the frightened Indian government that moved foreign powers to force Pakistan to surrender her gains. No telling what rot you'll come out with next :-(



All of that says something different, so I was wondering if I could borrow your copy of Grimm's Fairy Tales.

I respect all professionals but quality of your post has gone down to lowest level now i feel its more trolls. Time to stop reading your posts and put it in ignore list like many others.

 

[Readerdefence]

Sorry sir but i want to disagree
Pakistan don't have stable economy , PAF didn't have budget to buy european fighter jets like RAaFLE , eurofighter
But PAF can buy cheap Russian SU35 ! We should rise of voice and make our government to fund paf to make an SU35 deal ASAP because its now and never situation
in next 3 year indian will have 36 rafale they will be making f16 and f18 at home , they currently have 250+ su30

Hi my friend don’t mind but I have doubts on your cheap Russian su35 I hope you get my point
Thank you

 

[!eon]

<sigh!>

You think this is the only place he does it?

I think he knows how to advertise at right place.

If he has not already, he should also spam on Indian forums

 

[Ultima Thule]

Useless thread should be close @The Eagle , @waz , @WebMaster please close this thread thank you

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Close is require now or never

 

[Joe Shearer]

Let me drive you through some historical facts. Pakistan Air Force acquired 4th generation jets before you and this time we will move on to 5th gen jets before you. Our indigenous jet is way ahead than your tejas which is yet to be fully inducted. PAF isn't interested in Su-35 anymore because we are moving towards 5th gen and our block 3 JF-17 will be 4th+ gen jet so we don't need Su-35. Our 5th gen jet will fulfill our requirement for dual engine and long range fighter jets so Su-35 is not required. And as far as selling Su-35 is concerned, Russia sold Mi-35 to Pakistan Army and they had offered us other military equipment too.

India is interested in US F-35 but USA is offering old F-16 to India, this is hilarious

I laughed as hard as you. I wasn't sure why, but you seemed hugely amused at the situation, so why not keep you happy? Saves time.

I respect all professionals but quality of your post has gone down to lowest level now i feel its more trolls. Time to stop reading your posts and put it in ignore list like many others.

I know.

Sorry to miss you; our conversations have been delightful.

I think he knows how to advertise at right place.

If he has not already, he should also spam on Indian forums

Close enough. On a peaceful forum where there are no bhakts, either green or saffron.

 

[Theparadox]

Russia sold Mi-35 to Pakistan Army and they had offered us other military equipment too.

Lol just 4 Mi-35 and for undisclosed price tag. We're giving those for free to Afghanistan also Russia will too.
Kabul Interested in Russia's Mi-17, Mi-35 on Free of Charge Basis
I hope you buy more

 

[MastanKhan]

Please provide the evidence. Are you saying PAF planners don't know what they are doing?



OK you are welcome to try your technological superior planes against our paper planes, if that keeps you happy. But just a gentle reminder, we have the best pilots, best missiles and best engineers, inshallah the best victory you will see.

Hi,

If I may ask---when did the Paf planners knew what they were doing?

 

[Armchair-General]

Hi,

If I may ask---when did the Paf planners knew what they were doing?

When they chose not to abandon JF-17 project (though personally I would have had us go for licence or co-production of J-10s)
Also the acquisition of AEWACS as well as mid air refuleling.
Rejecting the deal for an additional 18 blk-52s.
And now putting resources in developing a 5th gen platform.

 

[Noman Sarwar]

its true that indian airforce hold massive numerical and technological advantage over Paf for last 20 years or so , but still then they never dared to cross Pakistani territory.. why? even after when relations were worst in 2002 , 2008 ? give credit where it is due , paf may have made some bad decisions in past yet planners in air headquarters know how to keep india in her limits. now country's bad enonomy is not the fault of PAF , its doing it best to keep updated with peanuts like resources unlike india which has abundance of funds to purchase idea goodies , lets for example they spent €7.8 billion on procurement of 36 rafales only , how ever total Paf budget is of 2017-18 was $1.8 billion now do the math ur self.
if comparison to be made in the inventory of both forces then financial resources should also be considered. even after such huge spending on defense India couldn't do any thing offensive against Pakistan only their politicians blabber nonsense on television
how ever the positive thing is Paf is on its way to catch up, current fleet of locally made thunder is am sure very much capable and block 3 will take PAF leap forward. so keep trust on Defense institutions

 

[Water Car Engineer]

its true that indian airforce hold massive numerical and technological advantage over Paf for last 20 years or so , but still then they never dared to cross Pakistani territory.. why? even after when relations were worst in 2002 , 2008 ? give credit where it is due , paf may have made some bad decisions in past yet planners in air headquarters know how to keep india in her limits.

Give credit to your nukes.

IAF's requirement is that of a possible dual action by China and Pak. So it's going to be an overwhelming numbers, now with it's economy it'll get the near best, with recent policies and economic leverage it'll also force outside OEMs to invest in local companies and produce infrastructure.

It'll only get worse, you had to deal with a lethargic socialist oriented India since independence, that's changing.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

its not the man but the man behind the machine.
If we dont have money and want to compete them, then we should train our men including technical staff to make them even more better. With better maintainence, strategey and more availability of aircrafts we can match any adversery.
Instead of investing on new imported fighters we should invest on air defence and on improvement of our own JF 17.

 

[Noman Sarwar]

Give credit to your nukes.

IAF's requirement is that of a possible dual action by China and Pak. So it's going to be an overwhelming numbers, now with it's economy it'll get the near best, with recent policies and economic leverage it'll also force outside OEMs to invest in local companies and produce infrastructure.

It'll only get worse, you had to deal with a lethargic socialist oriented India since independence, that's changing.

"Give credit to your nukes."


of course that was the reason nukes were envisioned back in 70s and developed on war footing basis ,which was necessary to keep india at bay otherwise war mongering country like india would had tried to invade pakistan a dozen of time since then , apart from it despite being an very strong nuclear power pakistan also do have very much professional Navy Army and air force setup which when require will give strong punch to enemy. its not always about number , its also about strategy , intelligence , coordination , planning , motivation and courage of an soldier..
i wonder what will be the motivation of the Indian soldiers standing on border complaining about the bad food quality alleging that the higher officials sell off supplies meant for troops, often forcing them to go to bed on empty stomachs, i wonder what kind of battle will such soldiers fight when they have to fight battle for food every day.

 

[khanmubashir]

Tejas r operational ??? Anyway
No need to spent money on a new expensive 4 g jet like Indian r wasting and make and improve 4 g jf 17 and try to acquire fifth generation jet like tfx of which we r participants and j31 of which news of our paf interaction surfaces time to time