Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[rockstarIN]

Mig-21 series sucks..still PAF & IAF rookies has to go thru it..

 

[Arsalan]

well a bit of a good news that the Pilot is safe:

PAF F-7 fighter aircraft crashes near Bhakkar
ISLAMABAD, Aug 15 (APP): A F-7 Fighter Aircraft of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) crashed close to Kalur Kot Khakkar (Mianwali training area) due to technical malfunction on Monday. According to PAF, the woman pilot of the aircraft, Flying Officer Nida ejected safely. The aircraft was on a routine operational training mission. No loss of civilian life or property has been reported. A board of inquiry has been ordered by Air Headquarters to determine the cause of accident.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - PAF F-7 fighter aircraft crashes near Bhakkar

also note that as per Geo it was a twin seater variant and both the pilot and co-pilot ejected safely with the pilot, Flying Officer Nida sustaining minor injuries.

PAF plane crashes near Bhakkar
BHAKKAR: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) plane crashed 90 km away from Bhakkar on Monday, Geo News reported. According to PAF spokesman, the F-7 jet was on a routine training mission and crashed due to a technical fault.

The pilot and co-pilot ejected from the jet prior to the crash, however the female pilot sustained injuries and was taken to the Mianwali hospital for treatment.

The area was cordoned off and people were asked to stay away from the crash site.

The formation of an inquiry board has been ordered to investigate the reasons behind the crash.

PAF plane crashes near Bhakkar - GEO.tv

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Mig-21 series sucks..still PAF & IAF rookies has to go thru it..

Mate it was a great aircraft for it's time and must have been gracefully retired 2 decades back...it is our fault that we keep flying it.

 

[Patriot]

well a bit of a good news that the Pilot is safe:

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - PAF F-7 fighter aircraft crashes near Bhakkar

also note that as per Geo it was a twin seater variant and both the pilot and co-pilot ejected safely with the pilot, Flying Officer Nida sustaining minor injuries.

PAF plane crashes near Bhakkar - GEO.tv

We can all relax now - The Air craft is worth nothing compared to human cost unless you crash a B-2.

 

[rockstarIN]

Mate it was a great aircraft for it's time and must have been gracefully retired 2 decades back...it is our fault that we keep flying it.

Correct, earlier top pilots groomed to fly (like today's F-16 and Su-30 in PAF & IAF), crashes were less...now it is the rookies who gets soon from the training get.

 

[Windjammer]

The main problem is the high take-off and landing speeds. This makes the aircraft almost impossible to manuver and react if there is any problem and before you know it it is too late. And above all the speed at which you eject is another matter of concern.

This draw back was partially off set by the introduction of leading edge flaps on the F-7PG version. Apparently giving the aircraft better manoeuvrability than anything in it's class.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

This draw back was partially off set by the introduction of leading edge flaps on the F-7PG version. Apparently giving the aircraft better manoeuvrability than anything in it's class.

But still for the rookie pilots the speed is too high to handle. And if there is any mechanical or technical fault it makes it much worse.

 

[Mani2020]

Mate it was a great aircraft for it's time and must have been gracefully retired 2 decades back...it is our fault that we keep flying it.

Yup,but IAF had more flexibility to retire them as compared to PAF because F-7's entered in service much later than mig-21's in IAF , also we had budget constraints as well as embargoed so we didn't have any options other than to induct them in numbers even in 2002 we inducted the F-7 version known as F-7PG due to the above mentioned issues but as sson as we find a chance we are retiring them by replacing them with jf-17 ,but in case of IAF it was completely opposite they had leverage to go for French, British or Russian origin aircrafts also the budget enough to afford them but i think they played at the wrong end by taking migs to 2020 in result they have become a lingering issue for IAF along with other old breeds

 

[SQ8]

Not to belittle her or anything.. but many of those women that will continue on fighters in the PAF were considered less feminine by their male coursemates.
Some even going as far as calling them "men".
Those girls are tough cookies..
however.. there are those that eventually find our culture has caught upto them..and eventually the AF has wasted millions training a pilot only to have her sitting around on the ground after pregnancy..and unfit to fly.

Our women still have a long way to go when it comes to overcoming social constraints.

The girl should be ok.. although her parents may be having a fit.

 

[truthseeker2010]

must have been OCU flight. I heard few years back that none of the female pilots made it to the combat squadrons and all were doing liaison duties. Sad to hear that still one civilian was killed.

 

[Mo12]

Not to belittle her or anything.. but many of those women that will continue on fighters in the PAF were considered less feminine by their male coursemates.
Some even going as far as calling them "men".
Those girls are tough cookies..
however.. there are those that eventually find our culture has caught upto them..and eventually the AF has wasted millions training a pilot only to have her sitting around on the ground after pregnancy..and unfit to fly.

Our women still have a long way to go when it comes to overcoming social constraints.

The girl should be ok.. although her parents may be having a fit.

But isnt that the case with every industry in the World? Not only aviation and Pakistan?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Yup,but IAF had more flexibility to retire them as compared to PAF because F-7's entered in service much later than mig-21's in IAF , also we had budget constraints as well as embargoed so we didn't have any options other than to induct them in numbers even in 2002 we inducted the F-7 version known as F-7PG due to the above mentioned issues but as sson as we find a chance we are retiring them by replacing them with jf-17 ,but in case of IAF it was completely opposite they had leverage to go for French, British or Russian origin aircrafts also the budget enough to afford them but i think they played at the wrong end by taking migs to 2020 in result they have become a lingering issue for IAF along with other old breeds

Remember in the 90's we were no different from the position you are in right now. Bombs going up, poor economy, default in loan, o capital. That was the time when most of the aircrafts must be replace. But at that time we didnt have the money or the resources to do anything. After 1996 the economy started stabilizing and we could afford things...but replacing the mainstay of the worlds fourth largest air force is not an easy task. The SU 30s were ordered. But the MiG 21 which formed the backbone is being replaced slowly.

Well people argue that the MiG 21 and F 7 are totally different aircraft...but the laws of physics are the same for any aircraft made.

No o calls the MiG 21 an aircraft...it is something compared to the F 104 and is nicknamed as 'Rocketship'.

 

[SQ8]

But isnt that the case with every industry in the World? Not only aviation and Pakistan?

Not necessarily.
USAF women pilots also have lives.. they get pregnant.. have kids.
They work on their fitness.. and return to duties.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Not to belittle her or anything.. but many of those women that will continue on fighters in the PAF were considered less feminine by their male coursemates.
Some even going as far as calling them "men".
Those girls are tough cookies..
however.. there are those that eventually find our culture has caught upto them..and eventually the AF has wasted millions training a pilot only to have her sitting around on the ground after pregnancy..and unfit to fly.

Our women still have a long way to go when it comes to overcoming social constraints.

The girl should be ok.. although her parents may be having a fit.

That is one reason why the IAF is still skeptical about inducting women pilots into the airforce to fly fighter aircrafts...there are lot of them as chopper pilots and transport pilots...They cant take off during pregnancy. As High G maneuvers lead the change in the circulatory systems that is dangerous to the baby and might lead to an abortion.

And not all soldiers are good people...crashing into enemy territory means becoming a PoW....remember man the value of a woman's chastity is always higher than the value of a male life.