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Dear Forum Members,
I hope that this is OK for this forum thread.
I have been updating my Royal Jordanian Air Force Information and noted the friendly co-operation between the Jordanian and Pakistan Air Forces. I also believe that PAF pilots took part in operations during the Arab-Israeli Conflicts.
I have also found that a Jordanian Pilot was lost flying a Pakistan T-37 and a Pakistan pilot was lost flying a Jordanian Casa C-101
December 3, 1960
RJAF
Chipmunk
Captain Seed Mohammed Hanin Shah (PAF)
26th May 1970
Pakistan
T37
Mamoun Abu Nowar
ejected (Weber Ejection Seat)
Tuesday 4th October 2005 09:15h
RJAF
Casa C-101
11sq
Two Royal Jordanian Air Force Casa 101s collided in mid-air during training, killing two pilots
Omar Ahmad Hassan [KAF] ejected, survived with serious injuries (Martin-Baker)
Colonel Ahmad Marji Al Lahem [RJAF] - killed in accident
Major Nouman Altaf Shaikh Hassan (PAF) - killed in accident
Can anyone add any details of the T-37 Loss - was there a PAF pilot in the aircraft as well and if so what happened to him.
Also I am still trying to find photos to go on the Pakistan Air Force Pages of the web site - maybe some Pakistan based magazines / old air force publications may hold such photos - if you can help I will be very grateful and of course acknowledge your support.
If any former PAF pilots read this thread I would very much appreciate any input to improve the web site's accuracy
Best regards and with respect
Mike Bennett
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www.ejection-history.org.uk
I hope that this is OK for this forum thread.
I have been updating my Royal Jordanian Air Force Information and noted the friendly co-operation between the Jordanian and Pakistan Air Forces. I also believe that PAF pilots took part in operations during the Arab-Israeli Conflicts.
I have also found that a Jordanian Pilot was lost flying a Pakistan T-37 and a Pakistan pilot was lost flying a Jordanian Casa C-101
December 3, 1960
RJAF
Chipmunk
Captain Seed Mohammed Hanin Shah (PAF)
26th May 1970
Pakistan
T37
Mamoun Abu Nowar
ejected (Weber Ejection Seat)
Tuesday 4th October 2005 09:15h
RJAF
Casa C-101
11sq
Two Royal Jordanian Air Force Casa 101s collided in mid-air during training, killing two pilots
Omar Ahmad Hassan [KAF] ejected, survived with serious injuries (Martin-Baker)
Colonel Ahmad Marji Al Lahem [RJAF] - killed in accident
Major Nouman Altaf Shaikh Hassan (PAF) - killed in accident
Can anyone add any details of the T-37 Loss - was there a PAF pilot in the aircraft as well and if so what happened to him.
Also I am still trying to find photos to go on the Pakistan Air Force Pages of the web site - maybe some Pakistan based magazines / old air force publications may hold such photos - if you can help I will be very grateful and of course acknowledge your support.
If any former PAF pilots read this thread I would very much appreciate any input to improve the web site's accuracy
Best regards and with respect
Mike Bennett
Project Get Out and Walk
www.ejection-history.org.uk
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Sadly it was Pilot error!
The tyres of the aircraft struck in the earth wire on the top of electric pole.
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Maybe there was an engine failure and they were trying to glide down....and eventually the with no power the pole was unavoidable.
Just my thought.....cant be certain without the inquiry.
Just my thought.....cant be certain without the inquiry.
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Hi,
A raptor crashed today.
From Mike Mount
CNN Pentagon Producer
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An Air Force F-22A fighter jet crashed Wednesday near Edwards Air Force Base in California, Air Force officials said.
An F-22A fighter jet similar to this one crashed Wednesday during a test mission in California.
The single-seater crashed about 10:30 a.m. for unknown reasons, the officials said.
The status of the pilot was unknown.
At $150 million apiece, the F-22A is the most expensive Air Force fighter.
The fighter was on a test mission when it crashed about 35 miles northeast of Edwards AFB, where it was stationed, the Air Force said in a news release.
In 2004, an F-22 Raptor crashed on a training mission in the Nevada desert. The pilot ejected and was not hurt, though the jet was destroyed.
The plane was designed in the 1980s to provide a stealthy method to enter Soviet air space and strike Soviet bombers if the USSR attempted a nuclear strike.
Once the Cold War ended, the Air Force found a new mission for the F-22 as a long-range fighter with a sophisticated stealth design and state-of-the-art equipment that no other plane could rival.
However, the rising cost of the plane and numerous design and software problems threatened the program, which was almost killed by Congress.
In the end, the aircraft survived, and most of the problems were fixed, except for the price tag, which forced the Air Force to buy fewer aircraft.
A raptor crashed today.
From Mike Mount
CNN Pentagon Producer
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An Air Force F-22A fighter jet crashed Wednesday near Edwards Air Force Base in California, Air Force officials said.
An F-22A fighter jet similar to this one crashed Wednesday during a test mission in California.
The single-seater crashed about 10:30 a.m. for unknown reasons, the officials said.
The status of the pilot was unknown.
At $150 million apiece, the F-22A is the most expensive Air Force fighter.
The fighter was on a test mission when it crashed about 35 miles northeast of Edwards AFB, where it was stationed, the Air Force said in a news release.
In 2004, an F-22 Raptor crashed on a training mission in the Nevada desert. The pilot ejected and was not hurt, though the jet was destroyed.
The plane was designed in the 1980s to provide a stealthy method to enter Soviet air space and strike Soviet bombers if the USSR attempted a nuclear strike.
Once the Cold War ended, the Air Force found a new mission for the F-22 as a long-range fighter with a sophisticated stealth design and state-of-the-art equipment that no other plane could rival.
However, the rising cost of the plane and numerous design and software problems threatened the program, which was almost killed by Congress.
In the end, the aircraft survived, and most of the problems were fixed, except for the price tag, which forced the Air Force to buy fewer aircraft.
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F-22 crashes in California desert; pilot killed
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. One of the Air Force's top-of-the-line F-22 fighter jets crashed Wednesday in the high desert of Southern California, killing a test pilot for prime contractor Lockheed Martin Corp.
The F-22A Raptor crashed at 10 a.m. about 35 miles northeast of Edwards Air Force Base in the Mojave Desert. The Bureau of Land Management identifies the area as Harper Dry Lake, a vast and empty expanse of sometimes marshy flat land.
The pilot was David Cooley, 49, a 21-year Air Force veteran who joined Lockheed Martin in 2003, the company said in a statement. It did not release any details of the accident, including whether Cooley attempted to eject.
A statement issued by Edwards said first responders transported Cooley from the crash scene to Victor Valley Community Hospital in Victorville, where he was pronounced dead.
Cooley, of Palmdale, Calif., was part of a team of company and Air Force pilots who conduct F-22 testing.
"We are deeply saddened by the loss of David and our concerns, thoughts and prayers at this time are with his family," the statement said.
Sam Grizzle, a spokesman for Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., said no additional information would be released.
A board of officers is investigating the crash, the Edwards statement said. The Air Force urged people to stay away from the site because hazardous materials may have been released.
"This is a very difficult day for Edwards and those who knew and respected Dave as a warrior, test pilot and friend," said Maj. Gen. David Eichhorn, the Air Force Flight Test Center commander.
The jet, assigned to the 411th Flight Test Squadron of Edwards' 412th Test Wing, was on a test mission, said Air Force Maj. David Small at the Pentagon. Small did not know the nature of the mission.
The radar-evading F-22s each cost $140 million and are designed for air dominance. The warplanes can carry air-to-air missiles but are capable of ground attack as well.
The $65 billion F-22 program is embattled, with some opponents contending that a different warplane under development, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, is more versatile and less costly at $80 million per plane.
F-22s were grounded for two weeks after one crashed at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada in December 2004. They were cleared again to fly after a review, and an Air Force statement at the time said officials were "highly confident in the design, testing and development" of the aircraft. The pilot in that crash successfully ejected.
The U.S. is committed to 183 F-22s, down from the original plan laid out in the 1980s to build 750.
Lockheed Martin says there are 95,000 jobs at 1,000 companies connected to the F-22.
It is trying to persuade the Pentagon to buy as many as 20 more F-22s. The military is expected to signal its intentions when the 2010 Defense Department budget is released next month.
The F-22 is able to fly at supersonic speeds without using afterburners. That allows it to reach and stay in a battlespace faster and longer without being easily detected.
The fighter, powered by two Pratt & Whitney engines, is 62 feet long, has a wingspan of 44 1/2 feet and is flown by a single pilot.
F-22 crashes in California desert; pilot killed - Yahoo! News
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. One of the Air Force's top-of-the-line F-22 fighter jets crashed Wednesday in the high desert of Southern California, killing a test pilot for prime contractor Lockheed Martin Corp.
The F-22A Raptor crashed at 10 a.m. about 35 miles northeast of Edwards Air Force Base in the Mojave Desert. The Bureau of Land Management identifies the area as Harper Dry Lake, a vast and empty expanse of sometimes marshy flat land.
The pilot was David Cooley, 49, a 21-year Air Force veteran who joined Lockheed Martin in 2003, the company said in a statement. It did not release any details of the accident, including whether Cooley attempted to eject.
A statement issued by Edwards said first responders transported Cooley from the crash scene to Victor Valley Community Hospital in Victorville, where he was pronounced dead.
Cooley, of Palmdale, Calif., was part of a team of company and Air Force pilots who conduct F-22 testing.
"We are deeply saddened by the loss of David and our concerns, thoughts and prayers at this time are with his family," the statement said.
Sam Grizzle, a spokesman for Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., said no additional information would be released.
A board of officers is investigating the crash, the Edwards statement said. The Air Force urged people to stay away from the site because hazardous materials may have been released.
"This is a very difficult day for Edwards and those who knew and respected Dave as a warrior, test pilot and friend," said Maj. Gen. David Eichhorn, the Air Force Flight Test Center commander.
The jet, assigned to the 411th Flight Test Squadron of Edwards' 412th Test Wing, was on a test mission, said Air Force Maj. David Small at the Pentagon. Small did not know the nature of the mission.
The radar-evading F-22s each cost $140 million and are designed for air dominance. The warplanes can carry air-to-air missiles but are capable of ground attack as well.
The $65 billion F-22 program is embattled, with some opponents contending that a different warplane under development, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, is more versatile and less costly at $80 million per plane.
F-22s were grounded for two weeks after one crashed at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada in December 2004. They were cleared again to fly after a review, and an Air Force statement at the time said officials were "highly confident in the design, testing and development" of the aircraft. The pilot in that crash successfully ejected.
The U.S. is committed to 183 F-22s, down from the original plan laid out in the 1980s to build 750.
Lockheed Martin says there are 95,000 jobs at 1,000 companies connected to the F-22.
It is trying to persuade the Pentagon to buy as many as 20 more F-22s. The military is expected to signal its intentions when the 2010 Defense Department budget is released next month.
The F-22 is able to fly at supersonic speeds without using afterburners. That allows it to reach and stay in a battlespace faster and longer without being easily detected.
The fighter, powered by two Pratt & Whitney engines, is 62 feet long, has a wingspan of 44 1/2 feet and is flown by a single pilot.
F-22 crashes in California desert; pilot killed - Yahoo! News
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A statement issued by Edwards said first responders transported Cooley from the crash scene to Victor Valley Community Hospital in Victorville, where he was pronounced dead.
Hi,
I, as a matter of fact worked in victorville at a car dealership as a sales manager for a while. It is a high desert pleateau----high winds---sand---weeds---joshua trees---heat heat and heat.
One story gets to another---one of the sales person worked for me in the early 2000---awhile before that he worked at edwards painting aircraft---he told me that he saw a sky blue SR 71 at that base a few times ( possibly for day time ) never could confirm it on the web---but the guy was not the type to lie---.
Hi,
I, as a matter of fact worked in victorville at a car dealership as a sales manager for a while. It is a high desert pleateau----high winds---sand---weeds---joshua trees---heat heat and heat.
One story gets to another---one of the sales person worked for me in the early 2000---awhile before that he worked at edwards painting aircraft---he told me that he saw a sky blue SR 71 at that base a few times ( possibly for day time ) never could confirm it on the web---but the guy was not the type to lie---.
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Pilot Aircraft Year
Flt Lt Naseem Tariq F-86 1981??
W/C Hasnaat Ahmed F-6 1984
S/L Zafar Ahsin F-16 1989
Flt Lt Muqtadar Mirage? 1990
Gp Capt Ali Asad Khan Mirage 2003?
S/L Hasnaat Ikram malik Mirage 2004?
Flt Lt Imran Tariq F-7 2004 (S/o F Lt Naseem Tariq)
W/C Rizwan Mirage 2006
W/C Akram Ranjha Mirage 2006
W/C Azhar Ismael Mirage 2008
Note: All the Pilots Died.
Flt Lt Naseem Tariq F-86 1981??
W/C Hasnaat Ahmed F-6 1984
S/L Zafar Ahsin F-16 1989
Flt Lt Muqtadar Mirage? 1990
Gp Capt Ali Asad Khan Mirage 2003?
S/L Hasnaat Ikram malik Mirage 2004?
Flt Lt Imran Tariq F-7 2004 (S/o F Lt Naseem Tariq)
W/C Rizwan Mirage 2006
W/C Akram Ranjha Mirage 2006
W/C Azhar Ismael Mirage 2008
Note: All the Pilots Died.
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Prompted by Dreamer's recent posts I thought I'd take a quick look at my "things to find out - PAF Losses"
Do any forum members have any extra details of the following
1. Tuesday evening. 10th June 1997 Flt. Azizur Rehman ejected to safety at 15 kilometre west of Atharahazari, district Jhang
2. Flt Lt. Raghib Ghafoor - believed to have ejected from a Mirage
3. Names of F-16 pilots who were killed on the following dates
4th September 1989 - F-16A Block 15Q - 81-0910 - 38th TW - G-Loc - pilot killed
17th March 1994 - F-16A Block 15S - 85721 - 14th Sqn - Spatial dis-orientation - pilot killed
4. Is Squadron Leader Syed Hassan Raza who ejected safely from an F-16 on 16th June 1991 the same person as Air Commodore Syed Hassan Raza and Does anyone have contact with, or a photo of him
5. Does anyone have contact with, or a photo of Squadron Leader Nadeem Anjum who ejected from an F-16 on 28th October 1991
As always I'll add the any updates / replies for all to view and share on the web site
With respect
Mike Bennett
Do any forum members have any extra details of the following
1. Tuesday evening. 10th June 1997 Flt. Azizur Rehman ejected to safety at 15 kilometre west of Atharahazari, district Jhang
2. Flt Lt. Raghib Ghafoor - believed to have ejected from a Mirage
3. Names of F-16 pilots who were killed on the following dates
4th September 1989 - F-16A Block 15Q - 81-0910 - 38th TW - G-Loc - pilot killed
17th March 1994 - F-16A Block 15S - 85721 - 14th Sqn - Spatial dis-orientation - pilot killed
4. Is Squadron Leader Syed Hassan Raza who ejected safely from an F-16 on 16th June 1991 the same person as Air Commodore Syed Hassan Raza and Does anyone have contact with, or a photo of him
5. Does anyone have contact with, or a photo of Squadron Leader Nadeem Anjum who ejected from an F-16 on 28th October 1991
As always I'll add the any updates / replies for all to view and share on the web site
With respect
Mike Bennett
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Do any forum members have any extra details of the following
1. Tuesday evening. 10th June 1997 Flt. Azizur Rehman ejected to safety at 15 kilometre west of Atharahazari, district Jhang
F/L Aziz was seriously injured after ejection; however he was rescued very promptly and taken to the nearest military hospital. After remaining unfit from flying for couple of years, he was reinstated to the flying status. He later commanded the Fighter conversion unit.
2. Flt Lt. Raghib Ghafoor - believed to have ejected from a Mirage
Raghib also suffered injuries, but he is back in cockpit now.
3. Names of F-16 pilots who were killed on the following dates
4th September 1989 - F-16A Block 15Q - 81-0910 - 38th TW - G-Loc - pilot killed
Sqn Ldr Nasir from CCS. While flying a dissimilar aircomabat mission, during merge he experienced G induces loss of conciousness ( G-Loc) and hit the ground .
17th March 1994 - F-16A Block 15S - 85721 - 14th Sqn - Spatial dis-orientation - pilot killed
Sqn Ldr Zafar from 9 sqn . During a night interception mission he got disorientated, went into a steep dive and never made any attempt to recover. Before impacting, he gave repeated calls about his disorientation.
4. Is Squadron Leader Syed Hassan Raza who ejected safely from an F-16 on 16th June 1991 the same person as Air Commodore Syed Hassan Raza and Does anyone have contact with, or a photo of him
Yes he is the same person. Sorry, no contact with him but heres a picture.
5. Does anyone have contact with, or a photo of Squadron Leader Nadeem Anjum who ejected from an F-16 on 28th October 1991
Sorry no contact and couldnt find any pic.
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