Notice the difference?

[shah_123]

lol yourself.
Its the title that deserves respect. Nobody else is going to respect that if you dont respect yourself.
As for Zardari and Nawaz they were the PM who did not even spent their eid in Pakistan forget anything else.

Whether they spent their Eid in Pakistan or not, they were brought into power by this nation. --- They were PM's, did you respected them?

Btw, I don't respect them including Imran Khan.

 

[tkmd]

Musharraf actually had a vision and Pak was prospering under him. Yes he had some dubious policies but the economy was much better, our relations with the world were better than they were after he left and we had some allies.

Economy was doing ok bc of aid from the US. And even then growth was anemic. What garbage post .

 

[PurAzamBaHadaf]

Economy was doing ok bc of aid from the US. And even then growth was anemic. What garbage post .

You're telling me our economy was running due to US aid? What about PPP then? Why did our economy take a downfall then? What about PMLN? What did the economy go downhill then? We received USAID then too.

Go learn some facts before speaking. No matter how bad Mush was, he wasn't a traitor to our country unlike Zardari and Nawaz. Period.

 

[Baghial]

Yes, it is. Who is at the helm? Direction comes from the one holds the steering wheel. Not the others in the cockpit.

looks like ghari khaddah main gharnain wali hy?

 

[Dubious]

same retards ticket awarded by your very own Imran Khan (he is also a retard).

And hence my point is proven that Pakistanis give vote based on face and connections check sindh nothing works yet Bhutto ziada hai and gets votes

That's the reality. If IK had chosen old PTI members instead of PPP and PMLN dirt, they would've won.

You can't be certain about that coz the Pakistani mentality doesn't work that way....esp in Punjab and look at Sindh still stuck with Bhutto

 

[fisher1]

And hence my point is proven that Pakistanis give vote based on face and connections check sindh nothing works yet Bhutto ziada hai and gets votes


You can't be certain about that coz the Pakistani mentality doesn't work that way....esp in Punjab and look at Sindh still stuck with Bhutto

Sindh is enslaved under PPP landlords. Besides, other parties have given up on Sindh. PTI didn't focus on Sindh, PMLN doesn't. Can you really blame them?

Same deal with KPK. PPP and PMLN didn't give any attention to KPK. We had to choose from mma, anp and PTI and both mma, anp had pissed off a lot of people.

Punjab is where the true power lies and the fate of the country is decided. That's why PTI focused there and PMLN and every party.

You can count on KPK and Sindh to belong to PTI and PPP respectively in the next election even if they don't do a single thing.

 

[coffee_cup]

There are many good people in PPP and PML(N) and similarly there are many bad people in PTI.

Only because they support those parties does not mean that all of them are automatically corrupt and senseless (or good and intelligent if they support your favorite party).

I would go as far as taking good and capable people across party lines for the service of Pakistan. If I support one party today, it does not mean that I should keep supporting it life long. Once I see that this party is moving away from its manifesto and there is another party which is close to what I believe, I'll have no propblem switching from this party to the other (based on merit and not on personal gains).

 

[tkmd]

For those defending this govt two simple questions. Firdous Awan had a NAB case pending against her. And yet she's now a Minister and

You're telling me our economy was running due to US aid? What about PPP then? Why did our economy take a downfall then? What about PMLN? What did the economy go downhill then? We received USAID then too.

Go learn some facts before speaking. No matter how bad Mush was, he wasn't a traitor to our country unlike Zardari and Nawaz. Period.

Ummmm yeah so you're basically an uniformed idiot. Do you even know what the Kerry Luger bill is? Do you know when it came into effect? Do you know what it meant for the coalition support fund that was given to Pakistan? While we're on the subject....do you know during which years the vast majority of military/economic aid post 9/11 came to Pakistan? Nope you don't. Bc if you did you wouldn't be taking out of your ghaand.

So let me answer these questions for you even though I know you won't accept facts easily available to any semi literate peon. Between 2002 and 2007 Pakistan received 8.5 billion dollars in direct cash from the US. They also enjoyed a blind eye from the IMF. They also benefited from being labeled a "major non nato ally" which has myriad benefits both military and trade related.

In 2009 (the first year of Zardari's govt) Kerry Luger becomes law. And the remaining 10 billion in CSF dollars promised to Pakistan vanished.

So like I said you are wrong, you are uninformed and have no clue what you're talking about.

How about you go and ask Musharraf in his Dubai apartment why he won't come back to Pakistan to face charges.

Oh thats right just like you are an uniformed clown he actually is a traitor.

 

[shah_123]

And hence my point is proven that Pakistanis give vote based on face and connections check sindh nothing works yet Bhutto ziada hai and gets votes


You can't be certain about that coz the Pakistani mentality doesn't work that way....esp in Punjab and look at Sindh still stuck with Bhutto

I believe Pakistanis are forced to vote from a given pool of garbage --- under normal circumstances this garbage would be in trashcan, but in Islamic Republic of Pakistan this garbage is allowed to rule over people. ( one of the punishments of ALLAH swt')

If Bhutto is still zinda in Sindh, this means that a leader of his caliber hasn't been born yet in sindh ---

you say that Pakistanis vote based on faces/connections (true), but you don't say that Pakistani leaders like Imran Khan also give tickets based on faces/connections.

What are the other base on which Pakistanis should vote, I believe ideological base, right?
Look at our system,does it produces ideological people --- I am not saying to go back 300/500 years , just ask our college graduates history of Pakistan movement --- vast majority know nothing and for general public Pakistan movement is just doing garbage on 14th August.

This is the reality my friend, a harsh reality.

 

[IceCold]

Whether they spent their Eid in Pakistan or not, they were brought into power by this nation. --- They were PM's, did you respected them?

Btw, I don't respect them including Imran Khan.

Did i respect NS and Zardari as person, hell no, did i respect the title of course. Furthermore this is just one example. There are many others including the billions in money laundering ect.
PS I am not asking you to respect IK. You have your reasons and you can criticize him as much as you like, however calling him a poor bastard by someone who does not even have green flags, it becomes my business to tell him to shut up. Learn to call wrong a wrong even if it means in your heart even though that is the least form of one's imaan.

 

[shah_123]

Did i respect NS and Zardari as person, hell no, did i respect the title of course. Furthermore this is just one example. There are many others including the billions in money laundering ect.
PS I am not asking you to respect IK. You have your reasons and you can criticize him as much as you like, however calling him a poor bastard by someone who does not even have green flags, it becomes my business to tell him to shut up. Learn to call wrong a wrong even if it means in your heart even though that is the least form of one's imaan.

All I am saying is that this culture of abusive language is normal in our political culture -- Pmln, PPP or PTI, there's no difference.

 

[Dubious]

I believe Pakistanis are forced to vote from a given pool of garbage --- under normal circumstances this garbage would be in trashcan, but in Islamic Republic of Pakistan this garbage is allowed to rule over people. ( one of the punishments of ALLAH swt')

Good to know your believe but reality is not as you believe.
If this was the case the people would have voted IK to win when he had a whole crew of new people...that is if they were dying for a new face as you claim....

If Bhutto is still zinda in Sindh, this means that a leader of his caliber hasn't been born yet in sindh ---

Other possibility is slave mindset thay haunts most of Pakistan in the form of gori chamri and gora rang....is stronger in Sindh for Bhutto....

What caliber? Bhutto and family despite having a steady vote in Sindh didn't even bother developing Sindh no form of proper human index can show Sindh was under consistent rule of one family and there is no excuse xyz didn't allow development or that they are unaware of the difficulties....If you can't solve problems for decades than your caliber is questionable

you say that Pakistanis vote based on faces/connections (true), but you don't say that Pakistani leaders like Imran Khan also give tickets based on faces/connections.

Howelse was he to win to show what he can do when people refused to even vote for his people? He had to play by Pakistani awam rules

What are the other base on which Pakistanis should vote, I believe ideological base, right?
Look at our system,does it produces ideological people --- I am not saying to go back 300/500 years , just ask our college graduates history of Pakistan movement --- vast majority know nothing and for general public Pakistan movement is just doing garbage on 14th August.

And exactly who will fix it when we refuse new faces and new ideas?

 

[SIPRA]

Good to know your believe but reality is not as you believe.
If this was the case the people would have voted IK to win when he had a whole crew of new people...that is if they were dying for a new face as you claim....

Howelse was he to win to show what he can do when people refused to even vote for his people? He had to play by Pakistani awam rules

And exactly who will fix it when we refuse new faces and new ideas?

Your logic is so simple, direct and vivid; But, I fail to understand, why most of the people fail to comprehend it?

 

[Dubious]

Your logic is so simple, direct and vivid; But, I fail to understand, why most of the people fail to comprehend it?

Denial is a tool set by the brain to avoid dealing with reality.....plus it's easier to blame others than oneself

 

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