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Nothing to hide anymore - proxies of the IRGC

Nothing to say on that then...

As for Militias concerning Israel... where is the lie?
THEY ARE AFRAID OF ISRAEL... no one is blind from that fact...

And that's for every Terro/militia whatever Sunni/Shia... they all speak of "Death to Israel" but IRL they prefer killing innocent civilians as it's easier/faster...
Heck... they are ready to declare war on the US and suffer total annihilation... But when it comes to fight Israel... no one to be found...

They are only good in killing unarmed sunnis in Iraq and Syria. When it comes to US and Israel , they fire hollow missiles and shoot civilian airplanes...
 
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Nothing to say on that then...

As for Militias concerning Israel... where is the lie?
THEY ARE AFRAID OF ISRAEL... no one is blind from that fact...

And that's for every Terro/militia whatever Sunni/Shia... they all speak of "Death to Israel" but IRL they prefer killing innocent civilians as it's easier/faster...
Heck... they are ready to declare war on the US and suffer total annihilation... But when it comes to fight Israel... no one to be found...
As I said you are a false flagger extremist i$raeli.

All you say is US is great, Bibi is winning, Iranians have no chance etc, your real country israel will never get touched etc...

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They are only good in killing unarmed sunnis in Iraq and Syria. When it comes to US and Israel , they fire hollow missiles and shoot civilian airplanes...
Hezbollah in 2006 and hamas in 2008 fired thousands rockets to israel.

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https://www.hrw.org/report/2007/08/...ult/hezbollahs-rocket-attacks-israel-2006-war

Iran didn't fire hollow missiles. The causalities are high but Americans are hiding.

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Newsweek:

Iran Revolutionary Guards Fire Missiles at US Military Base in Iraq


"" at least 270 death toll have been reported so far ""

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The news deleted after an hour and the tweeter accounts which were reporting yankee casualties were suspended.
 
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Well, there was reason why Colonel Umar was despised in Parachinar Kurram agency because he busted training camps of Zainabiyun and recovered weapons...certain people actually came on roads against colonel Umar in order to remove him from Parachinar...
not just that Zanabiyon KIA guys have special graveyard near of qom , they call it behest e zahra
 
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iran is today burning in hell because of this BS . if iran go back in own borders and stop interfering other countries Iranians will have far better present and future .
 
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Newsweek:
Iran Revolutionary Guards Fire Missiles at US Military Base in Iraq
"" at least 270 death toll have been reported so far ""

The news deleted after an hour and the tweeter accounts which were reporting yankee casualties were suspended.

Why don't you open a new thread on such an important news?
 
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Zainabiyun are the one who were recruiting Pakistani shias to fight in Syria...
They are more like a satellite than an actual "militia".
But the moment those "Shia Jihadist" come back... then the "militia" gonna take form... With experienced jihadis well cemented in the "Iranian revo Ideology"... As for weapons... well that's the easiest part...

The million dollar question is why Pakistani state is silent over hundreds of people (if not thousands of people) being recruited by foreigners when almost all Pakistanis who take interest in country's strategic affairs knows about existence of such proxy(zainabiyon)? Either Pakistani state is complicit i.e supporting Iranian war for regional hegemony or all Pakistani military brass who fought proxy wars against Russia, Iran, India, USA is too incompetent to stop this, or all our military brass is sold to Iran.

I believe its the first case.

decide yourself.
 
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I once read that on Washington Institue:

"Formed in 2013 and trained by the Qods Force in the Shiite holy city of Mashhad in northeastern Iran, the Zainabiyoun Brigade is another volunteer outfit fighting in Syria. The IRGC-affiliated Fars News Agency described the unit as an elite assault force with over 5,000 young Pakistani Shiite fighters, though Reuters and other Western outlets cite no more than a thousand. Many originally lived in Parachinar and its surrounding villages in northwestern Pakistan, then migrated to Iran or the United Arab Emirates. While demand to fill Zainabiyoun's ranks reportedly increased when the UAE expelled some 12,000 Pakistani Shiite workers in recent years, the brigade's core members came from al-Mustafa International University, a religious institution that is based in Qom but has branches in Islamabad and Beirut as well as numerous affiliate organizations elsewhere (e.g., the Islamic College of London, Indonesia Islamic College, the Islamic University College of Ghana).

According to an Iranian magazine interview with Zainabiyoun's current commander, known only as "Karbala," recruits receive some training in Mashhad before shipping to Syria. Some also undertake special weapons training, including a forty-five-day sniper course.

Once on the battlefield in Syria, Zainabiyoun units are occasionally led by Qods Force or Hezbollah officers. A July 26 Fars News profile claimed that they have a reputation for perseverance and a no-retreat attitude, though this is not widely noted elsewhere. The Fars story also claimed that Zainabiyoun has suffered about a hundred deaths in the past three years of fighting, mostly while breaking the siege of the towns of Nubl and Zahra north of Aleppo this February. While this figure is not corroborated by funeral notices, most Zainabiyoun fighters prefer to hide their identity, fearing reprisals by Taliban or Pakistani intelligence.

Many brigade members are already speculating about what will become of them after the Syria war. In the same July 26 Fars story, one Zainabiyoun commander openly criticized the Pakistani army's "un-Islamic" character, then proclaimed, "God willing, the Zainabiyoun fighters will return [triumphantly] from the Syrian insurrection and will become the Supreme Leader's right hand in the world." Another commander promised that Zainabiyoun will fight the "takfiri-Zionist" enemies upon returning to Pakistan. Such statements point to aspirations for a future role in areas such as Parachinar, whose isolated Shiite population has been under pressure from Taliban militants and government-backed militias since 2007. For its part, Iran has made significant investments in Parachinar, Lahore, Karachi, and other Shiite areas of Pakistan in order to compete with Saudi Arabia in shaping local opinion and woo recruits.

Similarly, in the July 2016 issue of the conservative Iranian magazine Panjereh, one Zainabiyoun commander expressed his willingness to fight on any front deemed necessary by Supreme Leader Khamenei, whether in Iraq, Israel, or Saudi Arabia; another commander declared, "God willing, we will liberate the house of God and destroy the Saudi royal family before reaching [Jerusalem]." Other members of the Iranian-led "resistance front" have emphasized this prioritization recently as well -- for example, in an August interview with the Lebanese television channel al-Mayadeen, Hezbollah executive council chair Hashem Safieddine said that "Shiites should remove obstacles put in place by the region's hopeless and corrupt regimes before destroying Israel."."
 
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I once read that on Washington Institue:

"Formed in 2013 and trained by the Qods Force in the Shiite holy city of Mashhad in northeastern Iran, the Zainabiyoun Brigade is another volunteer outfit fighting in Syria. The IRGC-affiliated Fars News Agency described the unit as an elite assault force with over 5,000 young Pakistani Shiite fighters, though Reuters and other Western outlets cite no more than a thousand. Many originally lived in Parachinar and its surrounding villages in northwestern Pakistan, then migrated to Iran or the United Arab Emirates. While demand to fill Zainabiyoun's ranks reportedly increased when the UAE expelled some 12,000 Pakistani Shiite workers in recent years, the brigade's core members came from al-Mustafa International University, a religious institution that is based in Qom but has branches in Islamabad and Beirut as well as numerous affiliate organizations elsewhere (e.g., the Islamic College of London, Indonesia Islamic College, the Islamic University College of Ghana).

According to an Iranian magazine interview with Zainabiyoun's current commander, known only as "Karbala," recruits receive some training in Mashhad before shipping to Syria. Some also undertake special weapons training, including a forty-five-day sniper course.

Once on the battlefield in Syria, Zainabiyoun units are occasionally led by Qods Force or Hezbollah officers. A July 26 Fars News profile claimed that they have a reputation for perseverance and a no-retreat attitude, though this is not widely noted elsewhere. The Fars story also claimed that Zainabiyoun has suffered about a hundred deaths in the past three years of fighting, mostly while breaking the siege of the towns of Nubl and Zahra north of Aleppo this February. While this figure is not corroborated by funeral notices, most Zainabiyoun fighters prefer to hide their identity, fearing reprisals by Taliban or Pakistani intelligence.

Many brigade members are already speculating about what will become of them after the Syria war. In the same July 26 Fars story, one Zainabiyoun commander openly criticized the Pakistani army's "un-Islamic" character, then proclaimed, "God willing, the Zainabiyoun fighters will return [triumphantly] from the Syrian insurrection and will become the Supreme Leader's right hand in the world." Another commander promised that Zainabiyoun will fight the "takfiri-Zionist" enemies upon returning to Pakistan. Such statements point to aspirations for a future role in areas such as Parachinar, whose isolated Shiite population has been under pressure from Taliban militants and government-backed militias since 2007. For its part, Iran has made significant investments in Parachinar, Lahore, Karachi, and other Shiite areas of Pakistan in order to compete with Saudi Arabia in shaping local opinion and woo recruits.

Similarly, in the July 2016 issue of the conservative Iranian magazine Panjereh, one Zainabiyoun commander expressed his willingness to fight on any front deemed necessary by Supreme Leader Khamenei, whether in Iraq, Israel, or Saudi Arabia; another commander declared, "God willing, we will liberate the house of God and destroy the Saudi royal family before reaching [Jerusalem]." Other members of the Iranian-led "resistance front" have emphasized this prioritization recently as well -- for example, in an August interview with the Lebanese television channel al-Mayadeen, Hezbollah executive council chair Hashem Safieddine said that "Shiites should remove obstacles put in place by the region's hopeless and corrupt regimes before destroying Israel."."
They give their lives to annihilate extremism.
 
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The million dollar question is why Pakistani state is silent over hundreds of people (if not thousands of people) being recruited by foreigners when almost all Pakistanis who take interest in country's strategic affairs knows about existence of such proxy(zainabiyon)? Either Pakistani state is complicit i.e supporting Iranian war for regional hegemony or all Pakistani military brass who fought proxy wars against Russia, Iran, India, USA is too incompetent to stop this, or all our military brass is sold to Iran.

I believe its the first case.

decide yourself.

I believe that such "Dynamic" in the beginning wasn't perceived as a threat... Those in power couldn't grasp the meaning in the long term... Therefore didn't find the need to stop/limit such movement.
Yes, It's a part of Incompetence of the State, but also a social issue, where such "Proxies" took advantages of.

Per Exemple in Tunisia... many of those who went there... were running from the state for X or Y reasons ( The majority)... Then you have those who were promised a better life/money... and finally those who really believed in doing good ( a minority).

In Tunisia, it may be a slightly different since such movement happened just after the End of the Dictatorship, and just before the beginning of the new State... therefore in that "No man's land" timeframe.

Tbh, if ISIS didn't took the form that we know it today... Such Movement will still be on... Like what is happening in the Shia side... Since there is not that "Devil" connotation yet... Countries around the region hasn't yet given the rightful name to such groups... that they are "Jihadi/Terro Shia groups..."
You need to name things as they are, to begin a reflection on it... without name... you have no "Thinking" and therefore no "answers" let alone a counter argument to stop it/limit it...

The first step... is naming things as they are...
 
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As a Turk, whats your business with Iran ? Go away and serve some tea to American commanders in Incirlik base.
Calm down, bro. The Shah's granddaughters are already serving teajob. The number of American officers in Incirlik is not more than the number of Turkish officers in JFC Naples.

The effects of the IRGC's regional strategies, its proxies and expansion policy are far from being an issue that concerns only Iranians. Please continue with the topic.
 
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