Not Forgotten

[salarsikander]

Not at all. The reality this thread demonstrates is that an accepted defense against topics that make Pakistanis uneasy is to go off-topic by accusing others. Otherwise our one-on-one would not be tolerated, yes?

No, This forum is the proof that even though you are an hypocrite who would go to any length to defend israel and point out finger at Pakistan even though Pakistan does not get boycotted like Israel nor is not recognized by UN members. Just shows your extreme bias. And yet the garbage that you share is still accepted

 

[Solomon2]

No, This forum is the proof that even though you are an hypocrite who would go to any length to defend israel -

If that was the only reason, you could have chosen to "prove" it in a separate, on-topic thread. No, this is something different and more damaging to the Pakistani psyche: the embrace of displacement and delusion as a psychological defense against difficult problems.

 

[salarsikander]

If that was the only reason, you could have chosen to "prove" it in a separate, on-topic thread. No, this is something different and more damaging to the Pakistani psyche: the embrace of displacement and delusion as a psychological defense against difficult problems.

Exactly this is your attitude, dismissing the reality calling it a myth and then dodging it

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Well, if you don't accept evidence or the lack thereof then all you have a claim to is myth, not history.

We don't accept Jewish sources as ''evidences'' pertaining to matters of our din. You have clearly shown hatred for our religion and have ALWAYS and I and many others can cite posts on this forum.

If you seek truly to be educated in matters of Islamic history, then I suggest you, start off with seerahthal nabi as'salaathu was'salaam, ladaya Ibn Hisham rahim'Alllah. Once you've completed that, then I will give you further authentic books on Islamic history.

Not saying yea or nay to your argument, I'm just pointing out that some of the evidence you cite to back it up is shaky. Until you acknowledge and correct that, your personal credibility is damaged so I don't see why people should read you any further, do you?

Your problem is, so long as ANYTHING that makes Muslims look good, makes evidence ''shaky''. The evidence I've cites is sound and it's unfortunate that your credibility has been tarnished as someone who has deep seeded hatred for anything Islam.

 

[Solomon2]

We don't accept Jewish sources as ''evidences'' pertaining to matters of our din.

Did I ask you to? I pointed out that your first source was questionable, as the accepted evidence (for example, on Wikipedia) doesn't back up your claim. You are responding with jew-hatred. Is that supposed to get your reputation back?

To your question, "Did she accept Islam or not?" I don't know that there is any evidence of that. Wikipedia is not infallible. You said you posted evidence but you also said your internet connection was faulty. It's not posted. Perhaps you need to try again?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Did I ask you to? I pointed out that your first source was questionable, as the accepted evidence (for example, on Wikipedia) doesn't back up your claim. You are responding with jew-hatred. Is that supposed to get your reputation back?

To your question, "Did she accept Islam or not?" I don't know that there is any evidence of that. Wikipedia is not infallible. You said you posted evidence but you also said your internet connection was faulty. It's not posted. Perhaps you need to try again?

My reputation is given to my by Allah, not by man! As for wikipedia, if I go and correct it, does that mean you'll accept it as evidence now?

 

[Solomon2]

My reputation is given to my by Allah, not by man! As for wikipedia, if I go and correct it, does that mean you'll accept it as evidence now?

Can you post it here as well? (Someone could change your Wikipedia entry in an instant.)

(And how does one get a reputation from Allah? I go by deeds, not pledged or inherited affiliations.)

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Can you post it here as well? (Someone could change your Wikipedia entry in an instant.)

(And how does one get a reputation from Allah? I go by deeds, not pledged or inherited affiliations.)

Now, do you see the fallacy of your so called ''evidence''? The source is questionable and not taken seriously by academics. If I change it, will you accept it?

 

[IceCold]

I believe pinky was a nick name given to her not because of her rosy complexion but for an entirely different reason. I can say it out loud but it will hurt alot of feelings around here specially those of PPP supporters. But here is the hint for Pakistani members, did any of you guys ever read that book "Parliament sa Bazaara Hussan tak" ?

 

[haviZsultan]

She capitalised on her father's legacy and she along with her husband made themselves into the most corrupt couple in history of the country. She was total opposite of her father in terms of politics and character. He despite having some negatives, had a strong character, brutal honesty, resolute determination, a nationalist and a patriot. But she did not inherit any of the aforementioned traits, she was all about revenge, to make u-turns on principles to gain power, to accumulate wealth by hook or crook. She will be remembered but not for any right reason but for all the wrong reasons.

Even her father was an autocrat. He threatened to break the legs of Bengalis who voted, banned drinking even for minorities and appeased mullahs declaring Ahmedis Kaffir. Zia's role in mullah-cization is well known but since ZAB gains sympathy for being hanged his case is rarely viewed without sympathy and his role in breaking the entire country in half is ignored.