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North Waziristan offensive: Conflicting reports cloud military operation

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Military officials have claimed more than 30 militants were killed in the offensive. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

ISLAMABAD:
Residents of North Waziristan claimed on Monday alleged dozens of civilians were killed during a military operation launched last week in the tribal region.


The operation was launched following a suicide attack on a military checkpoint on December 18. Military officials have claimed more than 30 militants were killed in the offensive.

Residents, however, insist that those killed were civilians.

“From the first day of the attack to up till now 70 civilians have been killed,” said a tribal elder in Mirali. He asked not to be identified out of fear of reprisal.

“Some truck drivers and shopkeepers, and a hotel were shot at directly, and dozens were killed by gunships, mortars, and artillery shelling on the civilian population,” he added.

Resident Muhammed Tayyab said he lost three of his children and wife in the shelling.

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“On the first day of the attack an artillery shell hit the room where my kids and wife were sleeping,” Tayyab told Reuters by telephone.

Residents of Mosaki and Hasukhel villages apparently fled the area.

“We are moving our families to keep them safe but the mortars and shells are following us,” said Asad Sher of Mirali. “Please tell us where is safe. The troops are demolishing our homes and bazaars.”

Malik Gul Salehjan, another man, said: “My children are asking me for bread but I am not able to give them anything because there is nothing in my house.”

A North Waziristan administration official said tribal elders and army representatives convened a jirga, or meeting, on Monday to try to find a negotiated end to hostilities.

Army claims it targeted foreign fighters

The army reiterated on Monday that those killed in the operation in North Waziristan were militants.

“Security forces exercised utmost restraint to avoid any collateral damage,” an official army statement said.

When contacted by The Express Tribune, a military spokesman reiterated that the offensive was carried out in response to an ambush by militants. He said it was based on intelligence gathered in a sting operation and was specifically aimed at nullifying foreign fighters holed up in a compound in the region.

“Over 30 militants, most of whom Uzbeks, were killed in the operation.”

Reports from North Waziristan are hard to verify independently because journalists and observers are not allowed to work on the ground.

Speculation that the army might launch a major offensive in the frontier tribal areas has been building as the government’s attempts to engage the Pakistani Taliban in peace talks have floundered in recent months.

Meanwhile, protests against the alleged killings of civilians were staged in different parts of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa on Monday, as the army briefly relaxed the curfew imposed in North Waziristan in the aftermath of the December 18 attack.

The curfew was lifted between 2:00pm and 6:00pm, allowing residents to gather essential commodities.

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Addressing a news conference, Ayesha Gulalai Wazir, a member of the National Assembly (MNA) of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, said residents should have been given a chance to move out of the area prior to the operation.

While Wazir said the civilian casualties were ‘unintentional’, she warned that such incidents could fuel militancy. She urged the federal government to compensate those killed or injured in the North Waziristan offensive.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 24th, 2013.



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There is always more to the story shown to the public that is all i can say at this point.
One needs to visit the effeced area and get better idea on ground realities.
Before making such allegation media should try to get evidence, Political representives of the govt should raise the issue in nA and senate. We are a democratic country better start acting like one.


One wonders what were truck drivers doing in that hot zone that is everything but economic zone.....
Talking about shops and hotels then some of them are actually made as a shelter to the militants.....
 
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Popular army is not in favour of politicians. Where as cold war is all about clouding good work of army with some non issue propagation.
 
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Unfortunately all reports are suggesting than more than 50 civilians have died because it was market which was bombed
 
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Unfortunately all reports are suggesting than more than 50 civilians have died because it was market which was bombed

no army wants to kill its own, there is a concept of field intelligence in the army that makes sure that an overwhelming portion of the killed is the desired target and not civilains, the market may have been used by the terrorists as cover, as a supply point or God knows what, further more the media has a habit of army bashing due to several reasons as is well known, its very hard for the terrorists to operate without the knowledge (or support) of the locals so this makes them an accomplice in my book and hence an accessory to the terrorist attack and deserving death (albeit a slower one in my opinion), I am not saying that all the deaths are justified, the death of civilians is regretted and should have been prevented if possible.....
 
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Unfortunately all reports are suggesting than more than 50 civilians have died because it was market which was bombed
I wonder who is a bigger danger to Pakistani civilians.. The Terrorists or the Pakistani Army ..
 
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The same I would ask you about the Indian Army in Kashmir and South india !

South India?? :lol:

BTW, nice to meet a Pakistani who considers Kashmiris as Indian Civilians and Kashmir as much a part of India as NW is of Pakistan ;)
 
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Very good analysis


religious [politicians, Mullahs, fundoos] have their own ax to grind. They want terrorists and militants on their side because it is only through them, and not through majority vote, that they can come into power. They are crying at the top of their voice to stop drone strikes and military operation. This is what the terrorists want. They know they are lying through their teeth when they say army operation was killing innocent civilians but they have to lie for their political reasons.

Ironically, none of the tribesmen and politico-religious leaders ever raised their voice against indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians in terrorist attacks. The way security personnel were killed in mosque while offering their prayers was the most gory incident but it has escaped the attention of these politicians.

It seems that battle lines have clearly been drawn; pro-terrorists and anti-terrorists. This polarisation may prove to be good for developing a concesus narrative against the terrorists.


@Zarvan types continue to spread terrorist propaganda that is evident even in this thread.


Unfortunately all reports are suggesting than more than 50 civilians have died because it was market which was bombed
 
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South India?? :lol:

BTW, nice to meet a Pakistani who considers Kashmiris as Indian Civilians and Kashmir as much a part of India as NW is of Pakistan ;)


Please avoid dragging unrelated stuff here.

If you want to talk about Indian Kashmir, then open a new thread and discuss the death and disappearance of 10,000+ Kashmiris at the hands of Indian gov.

This is even worse compared to the butchery of Penochet and Bashar the butcher.

but please do not discuss these topics here.

We should stick to the thread.

Thank you.
 
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I wonder who is a bigger danger to Pakistani civilians.. The Terrorists or the Pakistani Army ..

Can't be as great a danger that your forces are in Kashmir, to the Kashmiris. You lot seem to have a Turkey shoot quite often, involving civilians after your delicate troops get marched on peacefully.
 
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Please avoid dragging unrelated stuff here.

If you want to talk about Indian Kashmir, then open a new thread and discuss the death and disappearance of 10,000+ Kashmiris at the hands of Indian gov.

This is even worse compared to the butchery of Penochet and Bashar the butcher.

but please do not discuss these topics here.

We should stick to the thread.

Thank you.

Dude.. I did not.. Please check back on the thread.. It was your compatriot who brought in Kashmir and South India...
 
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