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Yeah...China will take over NKR to save SKR and JPN. :lol:

For all your nationalistic bluster, you know what I said is true. It may sound paradoxical, but SKR and JPN are more important than NKR. Sure, NKR may do some damages to both countries before Chinese tanks rolls into Pyongyang, but China knows that the US will not allow both countries to suffer much and if China do nothing, NKR will cease to exist, making things worse for China in the long run.

The US will get what we want in NKR -- regime change. Thanks to China. :enjoy:

That's total bullsh1t, when US attack NK and you expect NK will remain silence? they will certainly retaliate and more likely the face saving US will strike back and escalade the tension. And what can be worst for China then to have US and SK dominate NK and then move their force to China border? ..that was the very reason China entered the Korea war in 1950s.

Sure maybe US will say the same as Indian defense minister that US in 2017 is not US in 1950s...LMAO
 
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Yeah...China will take over NKR to save SKR and JPN. :lol:

For all your nationalistic bluster, you know what I said is true. It may sound paradoxical, but SKR and JPN are more important than NKR. Sure, NKR may do some damages to both countries before Chinese tanks rolls into Pyongyang, but China knows that the US will not allow both countries to suffer much and if China do nothing, NKR will cease to exist, making things worse for China in the long run.

The US will get what we want in NKR -- regime change. Thanks to China. :enjoy:
If NK is going down then they will take Japan, SK and the parts of US they can reach with their nukes with them. Good luck attacking them.
 
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In a war against the US, NKR will lose. Sure, the US-haters will point out how much damages can NKR do to SKR and JPN, but is just juvenile distractions. NKR will lose.

What can China do ?

The question is not 'What WILL China do ?'

Just as certain that NKR will lose, China will act, so the real question is: What CAN China do ?

The US attack NKR to prevent NKR from becoming a nuclear weapons state, so China is going to attack CONUS ? Only a 12-yr old on this forum would take that seriously.

China attacks SKR and JPN ? What for ? Since the partition of Korea, SKR and JPN have been far greater economic boons for China than NKR has been. As a geographical buffer, NKR could have serve China's interests if the land area was just a desert. As a geopolitical buffer, NKR is only slightly better in terms of utility.

So ruling out military retaliations against the US, SKR, and JPN, what options are left for China, assuming the worst that LFK refused to behave responsibly ?

One -- Take over NKR.

North Korea as a Chinese protectorate would serve very well the short term interests of every party involved, chief is regional stability. The partition of Germany lasted 45 yrs, from 1945 to 1990. The partition of Viet Nam was never as severe and as official because there was an active civil war to prevent that partition from becoming a geopolitical reality, and it lasted barely 21 yrs.

The official partition of Korea began at the end of the Korean War in 1953. It was official in the sense that all sides agreed that such a condition was the best solution for everyone's interests and that such a condition should be made as permanent as possible. Only a few months away from being 65 yrs of that condition.

Sixty five yrs is the time span of a person's useful life. While the mind may still be sharp, the body is on the decline and demands rest. What this means is that Korea is now approaching two generations of people who are comfortable with partitioned life. They may abhor partition intellectually, some even emotionally, but psychologically and physically, they are fine with everything as is.

This gives China an intellectual out, in a manner of speaking. All parties can argue -- behind closed doors -- that NKR as a Chinese protectorate DIRECTLY benefits China and SKR, more so for SKR, with JPN and the US two degrees away from those benefits. Both Koreas can maintain the facade of each side claiming the entirety of the country, but realistically, neither will make any effort to turn that facade into physical being.

Two -- Let NKR go.

The only way that this will happen is China calculated that the economic DRAIN from NKR is too much to bear, especially when China is still struggling with her own internal issues from growth. Whether this calculus is correct or not, is not the point. Some Chinese hardliners will argue that NKR as a Chinese protectorate is worth the economic cost with the certainty -- according to them -- that NKR will change from being a drain into a net gain, but their own calculus maybe just as flawed as the opposition's who argues for abandonment.

The pro-abandonment side will argue that China is now powerful enough, in all aspects of what make a globally influential power, NOT to need NKR as a geopolitical buffer, and in observation of China's reformation and progress, the abandonment argument will be surprisingly convincing.

They will argue that once NKR collapse, SKR, just like West Germany, will have no choice but to bear the economic cost of unification. The Changbai range will channel the North Korean refugees into where the PLA can control. Korea, under the stressors of unification, will become even more dependent on China as an immediate trade partner. This will offset any negative of an increased US military presence in Korea, an issue that negotiations between China and the US can mitigate. Everything is negotiable.

As for the South Koreans, once North Korea is no more, there will also be no more of South Korea. No matter how comfortable they have been of partitioned life, made easier by the DMZ, they cannot leave what was once North Korea to turn into a wasteland and a people into savages. They will bear the cost of unification.
 
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In a war against the US, NKR will lose.
Yes. But the real question here is if NK can reach US with their nukes then are you alright with a US NK war? NK is a nuclear power. They don't need China to protect themselves anymore.
 
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I wonder if the Americans would agree with the unification of Korea, under condition of the complete withdrawal of American troops and the treaty on the neutrality of the united Korea?
 
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I wonder if the Americans would agree with the unification of Korea, under condition of the complete withdrawal of American troops and the treaty on the neutrality of the united Korea?
Why only the US ? China have no say in it ?

Considering the vehemence of the PDF Chinese regarding Korea, do not focus the question on US but on China.
 
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Why only the US ? China have no say in it ?

Considering the vehemence of the PDF Chinese regarding Korea, do not focus the question on US but on China.
I mean the full neutrality of Korea. The dissolution of all treaties and the signing of neutrality. The US as a guarantor from the Southern part, China - from the North. Would US agree on that? No military presence for China or US for ever.
 
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Pyongyang’s main economic lifeline falls as China bans key imports from N. Korea
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A soldier guards an area of Rason’s city port in the North Korean special economic zone, northeast of Pyongyang. August 30, 2011 © Carlos Barria / Reuters
announced on Monday. Goods that have already reached Chinese ports and customs should be released not later than September 5.

READ MORE: Chinese oil major stops fuel exports to North Korea

However, the measures are not applied to exports of coal through North Korea’s Rason port by a third party, if it has UN approval and can prove that the goods do not originate from North Korea.

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China willing to ‘pay most of the price’ to uphold N. Korea sanctions, calls for talks
The announcement indicates Beijing’s full implementation of the latest UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution against North Korea, which targets key revenue sources of the communist state, depriving it of $1 billion annual foreign revenue. The restrictive measures were unanimously approved by all 15 members of the UNSC in response to North Korea’s latest missile tests, which it claims were of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs).

China is considered North Korea’s main economic lifeline, and the success of the latest round of sanctions depends to a large degree on Beijing. Following the UN vote in favor of punitive measures against Pyongyang on August 5, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi acknowledged that the UN resolution would affect the country’s economic interests, but promised that China is prepared “to pay most of the price” for it.

Tensions between the US – which initiated the latest UN resolution – and North Korea have been mounting recently with increasingly belligerent threats from both sides.

READ MORE: ‘Big mistake for US to think it’s safe’ – N. Korea hits out after new UN sanctions

Meanwhile, Pyongyang recalled some heads of its foreign missions in China, Russia, and the UN back home to participate in a special diplomatic meeting on Monday, according to South Korean news agency Yonhap. The number of ambassadors called in to participate in the meeting is unclear.

The meeting may be a regular gathering of North Korean diplomats, according to Ministry of Unification spokesman Baik Tae-hyun, as cited by Yonhap.

The meeting may have been called “to deal with the difficult international circumstance the country is currently handling,”Yonhap reports.

READ MORE: North Korea stands no chance against US, Guam threat is a bluff – Russian general to RT
 
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I mean the full neutrality of Korea. The dissolution of all treaties and the signing of neutrality. The US as a guarantor from the Southern part, China - from the North. Would US agree on that? No military presence for China or US for ever.
Sure. Assuming the unified Korea is under Seoul, of course.
 
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SEOUL/WASHINGTON:, August 26, 2017 09:01 IST
Updated: August 26, 2017 09:25 IST
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People watch a television broadcast reporting the North Korean missile launch at the Seoul Railway Station on Saturday in Seoul, South Korea. North Korea launched several ballistic missiles into the East Sea resuming a provocative act in a month despite Washington's diplomacy-first approach toward the belligerent regime. | Photo Credit: Chung Sung-Jun

The South Korean and U.S. militaries are in the midst of the annual Ulchi Freedom Guardian drills, which the North routinely describes as preparation for invasion.
North Korea fired several short-range missiles into the sea off its east coast early on Saturday, South Korea and the U.S. military said, as the two allies conducted annual joint military drills that the North denounces as preparation for war.

The U.S. military's Pacific Command said it had detected three short-range ballistic missiles, fired over a 20 minute period. All of the missiles failed, with one blowing up almost immediately after launch, while two others failed in flight, it added.

The South Korean Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said the projectiles were launched from the North's eastern Kangwon province and flew in a northeasterly direction about 250 km (155 miles) into the sea.

Later on Saturday, the South Korean Presidential Blue House said the North may have fired an upgraded 300-mm calibre multiple rocket launcher but the military was still analyzing the precise details of the projectiles.

Pacific Command said the missiles did not pose a threat to the U.S. mainland or to the Pacific territory of Guam, which North Korea had threatened earlier this month to surround in a "sea of fire".

Tensions had eased somewhat since a harsh exchange of words between Pyongyang and Washington after U.S. President Donald Trump had warned North Korean leader Kim Jong Un he would face "fire and fury” if he threatened the United States.

North Korea's last missile test on July 28 was for an intercontinental ballistic missile designed to fly 10,000 km (6,200 miles). That would put parts of the U.S. mainland within reach and prompted heated exchanges that raised fears of a new conflict on the peninsula.

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said the missiles did not reach its territory or exclusive economic zone and did not pose a threat to Japan's safety.

Military Drills

The South Korean and U.S. militaries are in the midst of the annual Ulchi Freedom Guardian drills, which the North routinely describes as preparation for invasion, that involve computer simulations of a war to test readiness and run until Aug. 31.

The region where the missiles were launched, Kittaeryong, is a known military test site frequently used by the North for short-range missile drills, said Kim Dong-yub, a military expert at the Institute for Far Eastern Studies in Seoul.

“So rather than a newly developed missile, it looks to be short range missiles they fired as part of their summer exercise and also in response to the Ulchi Freedom Guardian drill,” he said.

The United States and South Korea are technically still at war with the North because their 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty. The North routinely says it will never give up its weapons programmes, saying they are necessary to counter perceived U.S. hostility.

Washington has repeatedly urged China, North Korea's main ally and trading partner, to do more to rein in Pyongyang.

China's commerce ministry late on Friday banned North Korean individuals and enterprises from doing new business in China, in line with United Nations Security Council sanctions passed earlier this month.

Trump Briefed

The White House said Mr. Trump had been briefed about the latest missiles but did not immediately have further comment.

The U.S. State Department did not immediately comment about the Saturday launches. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson earlier this week credited the North with showing restraint by not launching a missile since the July ICBM test.

Mr. Tillerson had said he hoped that the lack of missiles launches or other provocative acts by Pyongyang could mean a path could be opening for dialogue “sometime in the near future.”

Mr. Trump also expressed optimism earlier this week about a possible improvement in relations. “I respect the fact that he is starting to respect us,” Trump said of Kim.

North Korea's state media reported on Saturday that Kim had guided a contest of amphibious landing and aerial strike by its army against targets modelled after South Korean islands near the sea border on the west coast.

In a report that lacked the North's usual belligerent threat against the United States, its official KCNA news agency quoted Mr. Kim as telling its Army that it “should think of mercilessly wiping out the enemy with arms only and occupying Seoul at one go and the southern half of Korea.”

A new poster on a North Korean propaganda website on Saturday showed a missile dealing “a retaliatory strike of justice” against the U.S. mainland, threatening to “wipe out the United States, the source of evil, without a trace.”

On Wednesday, Mr. Kim ordered the production of more rocket engines and missile warheads during a visit to a chemical institute of the Academy of Defence Science, an agency that he fostered to develop its ballistic missile programme.

Diagrams and what appeared to be missile parts shown in photographs published in the North's state media suggested Pyongyang was pressing ahead with building a longer-range ballistic missile that could potentially reach any part of the U.S. mainland including Washington.

It is also believed to be developing a new solid-fuel missile of a class that it has previously tested in submarine launches.
 
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Japan, US look to cut off North Korea's oil supply


This is gonna be the final nail in the NK coffin. Or shall I say otherwise?
Now they are out to stop North Korea's life line by stopping the crude supply to it. They are going after NK's jugular vein.

In India Pakistan there is a proverb; Marta kiya na karta. English version = Necessity knows no laws or Driven to the wall, one has no option but to strike back.

Israel has declared Samson Option as its last resort. While Korea del Norte has kept such options under the wrap.

On those lines, coupled with unpredictable behavior of North Korean premier, the doom has been invited for several million people as NYT already declaring that the NK has stockpile of 30 to 60 of nuke warheads.

North Korean launch could be target practice for Guam strike

But I doubt this resolution would get any success from P-5 table meet.

Russian or Chinese Veto use would be sooner than later.
At least this is my crystal ball that says it.
 
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Korea del Norte, independent since 1948, is still not recognized by Japan & South Korea.
 
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This undated picture released by North Korea’s official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on September 3, 2017 shows the country’s leader, Kim Jong-Un (centre), looking at a metal casing with two bulges at an undisclosed location. North Korea has developed a hydrogen bomb which can be loaded into the country’s new ICBM, the official KCNA claimed. | Photo Credit: AFP
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...uclear-test/article19614617.ece?homepage=true

Seismic monitors measure an “explosion” of 6.3 magnitude near its main test site.
North Korea appeared to carry out a sixth nuclear test on Sunday, with seismic monitors measuring an “explosion” of 6.3 magnitude near its main test site, sending tensions over its weapons ambitions to new heights.

The apparent test came just hours after it claimed to have developed a hydrogen bomb that could be loaded into the country’s new intercontinental ballistic missile.

The South’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement that the seismic tremor was detected near the North’s Punggye-ri test site.


United States Geological Survey recorded the magnitude at 6.3 — larger than any previous test.

Rather, it is an explosion
Jana Pursely, a USGS geophysicist, told AFP: “It’s an explosion rather than an earthquake.”

Nuclear-armed Pyongyang has long sought the means to deliver an atomic warhead to the United States, its sworn enemy.

Questions remain over whether it has successfully miniaturised its weapons, and whether it has a working H-bomb, but the official Korean Central News Agency said before the quake that leader Kim Jong-Un had inspected such a device at the Nuclear Weapons Institute.

It was a “thermonuclear weapon with super explosive power made by our own efforts and technology,” KCNA cited Mr. Kim as saying, “all components of the H-bomb were 100 per cent domestically made.” Pictures showed Mr. Kim in black suit examining a metal casing, with a shape akin to a peanut shell.

New bout of tensions
North Korea triggered a new ramping up of tensions in July, when it carried out two successful tests of an ICBM, the Hwasong-14, which apparently brought much of the US mainland within range.

It has since threatened to send a salvo of rockets towards the US territory of Guam, and last week fired a missile over Japan and into the Pacific, the first time time it has ever acknowledged doing so.

US President Donald Trump has warned Pyongyang that it faces “fire and fury,” and that Washington’s weapons are “locked and loaded.”


Mr. Trump spoke by telephone to Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to discuss the need to “maximize pressure on North Korea” in the face of the “growing threat” it presented, according to a White House readout of the call, without specifying when it took place.

It is thermonuclear: North
The North has repeatedly claimed that it has a thermonuclear weapon, which can be far more powerful than other nuclear devices.

When it carried out its fourth nuclear test, in January 2016, it said it was a miniaturised H-bomb, but scientists said the six-kiloton yield achieved then was far too low.

When it carried out its fifth test, in September 2016, it did not say it was a hydrogen bomb.

There was no immediate announcement from the North about Sunday’s earthquake.

Yang Moo-Jin of the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul, told AFP the latest KCNA report “carries a strategic message” that Pyongyang “will push for a nuclear face-off with the US as an equal.”

Actually mounting a warhead onto a missile would amount to a significant escalation on the North’s part, as it would create a risk that it was preparing an attack.

“Hundreds of kilotons”
The North Korean leadership says a credible nuclear deterrent is critical to the nation's survival, claiming it is under constant threat from an aggressive US.

It has been subjected to seven rounds of United Nations Security Council sanctions over its nuclear and ballistic missile programmes, but always insists it will continue to pursue them.

Its first nuclear test was in 2006, and successive blasts are believed to have been aimed at refining designs and reliability as well as increasing yield.

Its fifth detonation, in September last year, had a 10-kiloton yield according to Seoul — still less than the 15-kiloton US device which destroyed Hiroshima in 1945.


Hydrogen bombs are far more powerful
Atomic or “A-bombs” work on the principle of nuclear fission, where energy is released by splitting atoms of enriched uranium or plutonium encased in the warhead.

Hydrogen or H-bombs, also known as thermonuclear weapons, work on fusion and are far more powerful, with a nuclear blast taking place first to create the intense temperatures required.

In Sunday’s announcement before the earthquake, KCNA said the North’s H-bomb had “explosive power that can be adjusted from tens to hundreds of kilotons depending on the target,” KCNA said Sunday, claiming technological advances “on the basis of precious successes made in the first H-bomb test.”

No H-bomb has ever been used in combat, but they make up most of the world’’\s nuclear arsenals.

Important announcement by N. Korea?
Meanwhile, North Korea's state television said it would carry an important announcement at 0630 GMT, after an earthquake registering magnitude 6.3 was detected near its known nuclear test site on Sunday.

The chairman of South Korea's parliament defence committee was quoted as saying the quake was likely the result of a 100 kiloton blast, which is four to five times larger than the bomb that was dropped in Japan's Nagasaki in 1945.

Kim Young-woo said he was briefed about the assessment by South Korea's military, Yonhap said.

US 'committed' to defend Japan
U.S. National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster told his Japanese counterpart on Sunday that Washington is firmly committed to defending Japan, including with its nuclear deterrent, following North Korea's latest nuclear test.

Mr. McMaster made the assurance during a telephone call to Shotarou Taniuchi, the Director-General of the Japanese National Security Council, according to a government statement.

Under Japan's alliance treaty with the United States, Washington has pledged to defend Japan. It has put Japan under its nuclear umbrella, meaning it could respond to any attack on Japan with atomic weapons.

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A Monotoring director of National Earthquake and Volcano Center, shows seismic waves taking place in North Korea on a screen at the Korea Meteorological Administration center on in Seoul on Sunday. | Photo Credit: Chung Sung-Jun
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...-was-h-bomb/article19614842.ece?homepage=true

Last month, North Korea fired a potentially nuclear-capable midrange missile over northern Japan.

North Korea said it set off a hydrogen bomb on Sunday in its sixth nuclear test, which judging by the earthquake it set off appeared to be its most powerful explosion yet.

South Korea’s weather agency estimated the nuclear blast yield of the presumed test was between 50 and 60 kilotons, or five to six times stronger than North Korea’s fifth test in September 2016. That would mark a significant step forward in the North’s quest for a viable nuclear missile capable of striking anywhere in the United States.

On North Korean television, a newsreader called the test a “complete success” and said the “two—stage thermonuclear weapon” had “unprecedented” strength. Hours earlier, Pyongyang claimed its leader had inspected a hydrogen bomb meant for a new intercontinental ballistic missile.

Seoul’s weather agency and the Joint Chiefs of Staff said an artificial 5.7 magnitude quake occurred at 12:29 p.m. local time, in Kilju, northern Hamgyong province, the site where North Korea has conducted nuclear tests in the past.

Seoul officials revised their earlier estimate of 5.6 magnitude quake. The US Geological Survey called the first quake an explosion with a magnitude 6.3.

The US State Department had no immediate reaction. South Korea’s presidential office said it will hold a National Security Council meeting chaired by President Moon Jae—in.

South Korea’s military said it has strengthened its monitoring and readiness while mulling a variety of possible responses that could be executed in collaboration with the US.

Japan confirmed that North Korea conducted a nuclear test, Foreign Minister Taro Kono said. “It is absolutely unacceptable if North Korea did force another nuclear test, and we must protest strongly,” Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said.

The USGS and China’s earthquake administration detected a second tremor in North Korea minutes after the first, describing it as a cave-in or collapse. South Korea’s weather agency, however, said no second quake occurred.

North Korea conducted two nuclear tests last year, the last nearly a year ago, on the September 9 anniversary of the nation’s founding. It has since maintained a torrid pace in weapons tests, including its first two intercontinental ballistic missiles test in July.

Last month, North Korea fired a potentially nuclear-capable midrange missile over northern Japan.

Earlier today, photos released by the North Korean government showed Kim talking with his lieutenants as he observed a silver, peanut-shaped device that was apparently the purported thermonuclear weapon destined for an ICBM.

What appeared to be the nose cone of a missile could also be seen near the alleged bomb in one picture, which could not be independently verified and was taken without outside journalists present. Another photo showed a diagram on the wall behind Kim of a bomb mounted inside a cone.

State media said Kim visited the Nuclear Weapons Institute and inspected a “homemade” H-bomb with “super explosive power” that “is adjustable from tens (of) kiloton to hundreds (of) kiloton.”

North Korea’s nuclear and missile programme has made huge strides since Kim rose to power following his father’s death in late 2011. The North followed its two tests of Hwasong-14 ICBMs by threatening in August to launch a salvo of its Hwasong—12 intermediate range missiles toward the US Pacific island territory of Guam.

It flew a Hwasong-12 over northern Japan last week, the first such overflight by a missile capable of carrying nukes, in a launch Kim described as a “meaningful prelude” to containing Guam, the home of major US military facilities, and more ballistic missile tests targeting the Pacific.

It may be difficult for outside experts to confirm that the nuclear device detonated today was an H—bomb. State media reported that the test left no trace of radioactive material.

The US and its allies attempt to detect blast material to gauge North Korea’s progress, but Pyongyang has become better at containing it as its nuclear program has evolved.

To back up its claims to nuclear mastery, such tests are vital. The first of its two atomic tests last year involved what Pyongyang claimed was a sophisticated hydrogen bomb; the second it said was its most powerful atomic detonation ever.

It is almost impossible to independently confirm North Korean statements about its highly secret weapons programme.

North Korea is thought to have a growing arsenal of nuclear bombs and has spent decades trying to perfect a multistage, long-range missile to eventually carry smaller versions of those bombs.

The White House said President Donald Trump spoke with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan regarding “ongoing efforts to maximize pressure on North Korea.”

The statement did not say whether the conversation came before or after the North’s latest claim.

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A man watches a TV news report about a possible nuclear test conducted by North Korea at the Seoul Railway station in Seoul on Sunday. | Photo Credit: AP

South Korea’s weather agency and the Joint Chief of Staff said an artificial 5.6 magnitude quake occurred at 12:29 p.m.

South Korea’s military on Sunday said that North Korea is believed to have conducted its sixth nuclear test after it detected a strong earthquake, hours after Pyongyang claimed that its leader has inspected a hydrogen bomb meant for a new intercontinental ballistic missile.

South Korea’s weather agency and the Joint Chief of Staff said an artificial 5.6 magnitude quake occurred at 12:29 p.m. local time, in Kilju, northern Hamgyong Province. The US Geological Survey called the first quake an explosion with a magnitude 6.3.

Shortly after, Yonhap news agency said a second quake was detected with a magnitude 4.6 but South Korea’s weather agency denied another quake occurred. There was no word from the military in Seoul about the possible second quake.

North Korea conducted its fifth test last year in September. If confirmed, the latest test would mark yet another big step forward in North Korean attempts to obtain a nuclear-armed missile capable of reaching deep into the US mainland.

The US State Department had no immediate reaction. South Korea’s presidential office said it will hold a National Security Council meeting chaired by President Moon Jae-in.

North Korea conducted two nuclear tests last year and has since maintained a torrid pace in weapons tests, including flight-testing developmental intercontinental ballistic missiles and flying a powerful midrange missile over Japan.

Earlier on Sunday, photos released by the North Korean government showed Mr. Kim talking with his lieutenants as he observed a silver, peanut-shaped device that was apparently the purported thermonuclear weapon destined for an ICBM.

What appeared to be the nose cone of a missile could also be seen near the alleged bomb in one picture, which could not be independently verified and which was taken without outside journalists present. Another photo showed a diagram on the wall behind Kim of a bomb mounted inside a cone.

As part of the North’s weapons work, Mr. Kim was said by his propaganda mavens to have made a visit to the Nuclear Weapons Institute and inspected a “homemade” H-bomb with “super explosive power” that “is adjustable from tens (of) kiloton to hundreds (of) kiloton.”

North Korea in July conducted its first ever ICBM tests, part of a stunning jump in progress for the country’s nuclear and missile program since Kim rose to power following his father’s death in late 2011.

The North followed its two tests of Hwasong-14 ICBMs, which, when perfected, could target large parts of the United States, by threatening to launch a salvo of its Hwasong-12 intermediate range missiles toward the US Pacific island territory of Guam in August.

It flew a Hwasong-12 over northern Japan last week, the first such overflight by a missile capable of carrying nukes, in a launch Kim described as a “meaningful prelude” to containing Guam, the home of major US military facilities, and more ballistic missile tests targeting the Pacific.

Vipin Narang, an MIT professor specializing in nuclear strategy, said it’s important to note that North Korea was only showing a mockup of a two-stage thermonuclear device, or H-bomb. “We won’t know what they have until they test it, and even then there may be a great deal of uncertainty depending on the yield and seismic signature and any isotopes we can detect after a test,” he said.

To back up its claims to nuclear mastery, such tests are vital. The first of its two atomic tests last year involved what Pyongyang claimed was a sophisticated hydrogen bomb; the second it said was its most powerful atomic detonation ever.

It is almost impossible to independently confirm North Korean statements about its highly secret weapons programme.

South Korean government officials said the estimated explosive yield of last year’s first test was much smaller than what even a failed hydrogen bomb detonation would produce. There was speculation that North Korea might have detonated a boosted fission bomb, a weapon considered halfway between an atomic bomb and an H-bomb.

North Korea is thought to have a growing arsenal of nuclear bombs and has spent decades trying to perfect a multistage, long-range missile to eventually carry smaller versions of those bombs.

The North said in its statement that its H-bomb “is a multi-functional thermonuclear nuke with great destructive power which can be detonated even at high altitudes for super-powerful EMP (electromagnetic pulse) attack according to strategic goals.”

Kim, according to the statement carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency, claimed that “all components of the H-bomb were homemade ... thus enabling the country to produce powerful nuclear weapons as many as it wants.”
 
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The US attack NKR to prevent NKR from becoming a nuclear weapons state, so China is going to attack CONUS ? Only a 12-yr old on this forum would take that seriously.
North korea is now very much a nuclear state.
 
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