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Trump's North Korea Options: Place Nukes In South Korea Or Kill Kim Jong-Un | NBC NEWS


ZeroHedge - Apr 7, 2017 7:23 PM

With Syria down, it's now North Korea's turn.

According to NBC News, the National Security Council has presented the suddenly ragingly bellicose President Trump with several options to respond to North Korea's nuclear program: put American nukes in South Korea or kill dictator Kim Jong-un.

The scenarios were prepared in advance of Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping this week. The White House has expressed hopes the Chinese will do more to influence Pyongyang through diplomacy and enhanced sanctions, but if that fails, and North Korea continues its development of nuclear weapons, there are other options on the table that would significantly alter U.S. policy.

While Gen. John Hyten, the commander of U.S. Strategic Command, maintained on Wednesday that "any solution to the North Korea problem has to involve China" a senior intel official told NBC he doubted U.S. and China could find a diplomatic solution to the crisis. "We have 20 years of diplomacy and sanctions under our belt that has failed to stop the North Korean program," said the official involved in the review. "I'm not advocating pre-emptive war, nor do I think that the deployment of nuclear weapons buys more for us than it costs," but he stressed that the U.S. was dealing with a "war today" situation.

The "nuclear" option would mark the first overseas nuclear deployment since the end of the Cold War, a move that would promptly provoke global condemnation, not least of all by China. It was not immediately clear if South Korea's regime - in turmoil recently following the recent impeachment and arrest of ex-president Park - had been consulted with the proposed strategy. The U.S. withdrew all
nuclear weapons from South Korea 25 years ago.

This "option" is also facing domestic pushback: "I don't think that [deploying nuclear weapons] is a good idea. I think that it will only inflame the view from Pyongyang," retired Adm. James Stavridis and former NATO commander told NBC News. "I don't see any upside to it because the idea that we would use a nuclear weapon even against North Korea is highly unlikely."

South Korea's sentiment aside, NBC notes that the US Air Force leadership doesn't "necessarily" support putting nuclear weapons in South Korea. As an alternative, it's been practicing sorties right out of the depths of the cold war: long-range strikes with strategic bombers — sending them to the region for exercises and deploying them in Guam and on the peninsula as a show of force.

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The second, and just as controversial option, is to kill North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and other senior leaders in charge of the country's nuclear program. The overt regime overthrow option has huge downsides, said Mark Lippert, the former U.S, ambassador to South Korea, who also served as an assistant defense secretary under President Barack Obama. "Discussions of regime change and decapitation...tend to cause the Chinese great pause of concern and tends to have them move in the opposite direction we would like them to move in terms of pressure," he said.

Quoted by NBC, Stavridis, said that "decapitation is always a tempting strategy when you're faced with a highly unpredictable and highly dangerous leader", especially for a nation like the US he did not add. "The question you have to ask yourself," he said, "is what happens the day after you decapitate? I think that in North Korea, it's an enormous unknown."

In any case, the groundwork has already been laid: as reproted one month ago, elite US forces, including Delta Force and SEAL Team 6 have been conducting drills on taking out Kim Jong-Un, as well as practicing tactical North Korea "infiltration." All they need is the green light.

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A third, bonus option, is covert action, infiltrating U.S. and South Korean special forces into North Korea to sabotage or take out key infrastructure — for instance, blowing up bridges to block the movement of mobile missiles. The CIA, which would oversee such operations, told NBC News it could offer "no guidance" on this option. But Stavridis said that he felt it was the "best strategy" should the U.S. be forced to take military action. He described such action as: "some combination of special forces with South Korea and cyber."

One wonders if the CIA creating a "false flag" attack on South Korea (or China) using chemical weapons was one of the options under consideration.

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Trump has already indicated he's open to unilateral action if China fails to rein in its ally, telling the Financial Times last weekend, "If China is not going to solve North Korea, we will."

Until last night, his words were largely dismissed as more bluster; however having just demonstrated how quickly Trump is willing to launch offensive operations - having U-turned on his Syrian position in less than a week - suddenly the possibility of nuclear war with an irrational adversary does not look all that distant.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...s-place-nukes-south-korea-or-kill-kim-jong-un
 
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Useless. Trump is playing the threat card, SK is the major stake holder, it's impossible to destroy NK's retaliation force in a preemptive strike, SK will be doomed, it's even unnecessary to use nuclear weapon, conventional is enough. Pay attention to SK's reaction, I don't believe SK support such a stupid strike.
 
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DPRK got nothing to lose. They have a million soldiers ready to die for their leader. China will jump right in the chaos and fight with brutal force against the Kimchis and Yankees. Beijing would never tolerate DPRK to be captured by them. In a war Seoul and other developed cities in SK would look like Syria,Libya, Iraq. The South Koreans have a lot to lose, more than the clueless people here realize. Our heroes didn't sacrifice their lives for nothing in the Korean War. Indeed it's not up to Trump or those controlling Trump - MIC to decide to take military action against DPRK. By doing so they are throwing the SK lives in grave jeopardy. The SK government will have to agree first they want to push for war.
 
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a war would mean the end of both koreas, loss of an ally for the usa and somewhat of a win for china (and japan). the economic slack is going to be picked up mainly my maindland china. no more posco, hyundai, samsung, daewoo, lg etc and more of huawei, lenovo, sinosteel, csic etc. china is in a win-win situation here - which seems to be the running theme for everything china in the world.
 
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Should there be a war i only hope China doesn't come out and say something about be calm, lets resume dialogue, etc. China should help Kim jong un to defeat US and south kimchi once and for all. I can see a lot of benefits should SK economy is in ruins.

China won't be talking, China is gonna take direct action if the sh!t breaks out. This time Korean War 2.0 shall be won by us. The first time we didn't win was because of logistic problems even though we scared the shit out of them. We managed to make them flee like chicken returning back to SK but we failed to push for the surrender. Faced with logistic problems, our troops were also military backward but we saved DPRK from being captured. Today we have a very powerful military, can easily send supplies, huge amount of missiles, biggest army combining with the 1 million North Koreans troops. America may have real modern war experiences, air superiority, strongest navy but they are on the defending side. Look at the map we can send massive troops right next to our neighbor, launch cruise missiles, ballistic missiles at SK. Should we be afraid of US air superiority? US Navy? Even if we have to sacrifice a lot of lives. This time they can forget about calling in those allies. It's gonna be CN-DPRK vs US-SK, we have overwhelming quantity of men, DPRK's artillery (while not advanced, still more than enough to reach Seoul). The stuffs China now has boy we shall wreck SK soil and turn it into a waste land.
 
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CNN just breaking the news "Donald Trump sends US Carrier Strike Group to the Korean Peninsula."
 
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CNN just breaking the news "Donald Trump sends US Carrier Strike Group to the Korean Peninsula."
Right, i think soon we will read news U.S bomb North Korea's nuclear facilities. U.S bomb N.Korea and N.Korea bomb S.Korea, it easily lead to 2nd Korea War.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...illerson-secretary-mnuchin-and-secretary-ross
MR. SPICER: We'll take a few questions. Steve.

Q Secretary of State Tillerson, can I ask you about North Korea? Did the President say that he might use trade against China if they do not rein in North Korea? And did you get any specific commitments from China to do something about the North Korea problem?

SECRETARY TILLERSON: The Presidents’ discussions -- President Trump and President Xi -- on North Korea were very wide-ranging, very comprehensive, and more focused entirely on both countries’ previous commitments to denuclearize the peninsula. There was no kind of a package arrangement discussed to resolve this.

I think President Xi, from their part, shared the view that this has reached a very serious stage in terms of the advancement of North Korea’s nuclear capabilities. They discussed the challenges that introduces for both countries, but there’s a real commitment that we work together to see if this cannot be resolved in a peaceful way. But in order for that to happen, North Korea’s posture has to change before there’s any basis for dialogue or discussions.

President Trump indicated to President Xi that he welcomed any ideas that President Xi and China might have as to other actions we could take and that we would be happy to work with them,but we understand it creates unique problems for them and challenges and that we would, and are, prepared to chart our own course if this is something China is just unable to coordinate with us.
 
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Stop the crap and start acting now!

I for one won't mind the US spending trillions of dollars bombing North Korea back to the stone age, with the added benefit of taking down Japan in tandem with South Korea.:D:D
 
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Stop the crap and start acting now!

I for one won't mind the US spending trillions of dollars bombing North Korea back to the stone age, with the added benefit of taking down Japan in tandem with South Korea.:D:D

Remember how Abe said how Japan can play a military role supporting US adventures? Here's the chance, i'm sure we will have the pleasure of nuking Japan to oblivion. :rofl:
 
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Stop the crap and start acting now!

I for one won't mind the US spending trillions of dollars bombing North Korea back to the stone age, with the added benefit of taking down Japan in tandem with South Korea.:D:D
Two things BeiJing need to do:
1. welcome U.S bomb N.Korea's nuclear facilities.
2. make sure N.Korea bring U.S.A in war for a long time.
 
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China won't be talking, China is gonna take direct action if the sh!t breaks out. This time Korean War 2.0 shall be won by us. The first time we didn't win was because of logistic problems even though we scared the shit out of them. We managed to make them flee like chicken returning back to SK but we failed to push for the surrender. Faced with logistic problems, our troops were also military backward but we saved DPRK from being captured. Today we have a very powerful military, can easily send supplies, huge amount of missiles, biggest army combining with the 1 million North Koreans troops. America may have real modern war experiences, air superiority, strongest navy but they are on the defending side. Look at the map we can send massive troops right next to our neighbor, launch cruise missiles, ballistic missiles at SK. Should we be afraid of US air superiority? US Navy? Even if we have to sacrifice a lot of lives. This time they can forget about calling in those allies. It's gonna be CN-DPRK vs US-SK, we have overwhelming quantity of men, DPRK's artillery (while not advanced, still more than enough to reach Seoul). The stuffs China now has boy we shall wreck SK soil and turn it into a waste land.
China will definitely not fight with Kim Jun un against USA,but support another political force of DPRK to replace the brother-killer evil and go up on stage before the whole DPRK government is dismantled. The China ,Russia and SK all want a stable Korean peninsula without nuclear weapons. So Kim Jun un's crazy actions could not just harm SK ,Japan and USA, but China potentially. Getting rid of fattie Kim the brother-killer and his followers and finding other NK politicians to take over the power is the best solution of the least cost for all countries around.
 
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China will definitely not fight with Kim Jun un against USA,but support another political force of DPRK to replace the brother-killer evil and go up on stage before the whole DPRK government is dismantled. The China ,Russia and SK all want a stable Korean peninsula without nuclear weapons. So Kim Jun un's crazy actions could not just harm SK ,Japan and USA, but China potentially. Getting rid of fattie Kim the brother-killer and his followers and finding other NK politicians to take over the power is the best solution of the least cost for all countries around.

:nono: wrong wrong wrong
 
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The only crazy in this entire picture is the US regime. Once it is neutralized, the crisis is neutralized and we return to normalcy.

Bring the Sunshine Policy in, which was destroyed by the US and its NGP lackeys.
 
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