North Korea confirms its fourth nuclear test - live

[KAL-EL]

Remember Sir NK will arrange for US before the strike on Japan or SK.

and just how will NK 'arrange' for US? and even if so, the US will 'arrange' right back in kind. That is unless, you think NK will be able to magically destroy the United States and all its second strike capabilities.

The NK regime wants to hold on to power and isn't interested in committing suicide anytime soon.

 

[j20blackdragon]

For those that can't see the forest for the trees, let me connect the dots for you.

China has very deliberately created two nuclear-armed proxies for similar reasons:

1. North Korea is a 'roadblock' that prevents NATO from entering the Asian mainland through the Korean peninsula. China is holding on to the North Korean dog-leash very tightly by controlling oil and food shipments into the country. The North Korean military cannot move without Chinese oil.

2. Pakistan is another 'roadblock' that prevents India from moving westward and annexing all the oil supplies of the Middle East.

China, on the other hand, has no roadblocks preventing the PLA from moving along this red line I've drawn below. China can annex these territories just as easily as ISIS has annexed portions of Syria and Iraq.

In conclusion, China is playing chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers. The rest of the 21st century is going to be very interesting.

 

[Desi_Dalek]

Russia, China And U.S. Condemn North Korea's Nuclear Test Claims

Russia, China And U.S. Condemn North Korea's Nuclear Test Claims : The Two-Way : NPR

 

[Aepsilons]

China, on the other hand, has no roadblocks preventing the PLA from moving along this red line I've drawn below. China can annex these territories just as easily as ISIS has annexed portions of Syria and Iraq.

Don't be ridiculous, @j20blackdragon .

 

[Akasa]

The bomb was likely a boosted-fission (or perhaps a fizzled fusion device) than a true thermonuclear weapon; I highly doubt that North Korea possesses the miniaturization technology needed to build a fusion device of such low yield.

 

[TaiShang]

Nuclear test to dampen ties with China, escalate tensions
By Kou Jie and Wu Gang Source:Global Times Published: 2016-1-7 0:43:01

NK failed to notify China in advance: FM

China on Wednesday said it was not notified of and "firmly" opposes North Korea's latest nuclear test, with analysts believing the test will severely affect relations between the two countries and escalate geopolitical tensions.

"China is steadfast in its position that the Korean Peninsula should be denuclearized and nuclear proliferation should be prevented to maintain peace and stability in Northeast Asia," foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying announced at a press briefing on Wednesday.

China will make solemn representations with North Korea, the foreign ministry said Wednesday.

China knew nothing about the test before North Korea announced that it had done so, Hua said when asked if China had been informed ahead of time.

"We strongly urge North Korea to honor its commitment to denuclearize, and to cease any action that may deteriorate the situation," Hua said.

North Korea on Wednesday said it successfully tested a miniaturized hydrogen nuclear device.

The test, the fourth time the isolated state has detonated a nuclear device, was ordered by its leader Kim Jong-un, and was successfully conducted at 10 am local time.

"The statement shows China's consistent attitude toward the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, as well as its discontent over North Korea's failure to provide China with advance notice," a Beijing-based professor, who requested anonymity, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

"Bilateral relations between China and North Korea are experiencing an abnormal phase. The lack of high-level visits and incidents, such as the cancelation of the Moranbong Band's performance in China, have already cooled relations. Launching the nuclear test without informing China would make things even worse," he said.

His views were echoed by Cui Zhiying, director of the Korean Peninsula Research Center at Tongji University, who said China may join other countries in discussing the situation soon, as the nuclear test goes against the country's regional strategy.

North Korea's nuclear test is expected to have a significant global impact.

"Currently, ties between the Koreas show no signs of recovering. The US is still applying its 'Strategic Patience' policy, declining North Korea's demands. That is why North Korea wanted to announce a successful test of a hydrogen bomb at this time," Jin Qiangyi, director of Asia Research Center, China's Yanbian University, told the Global Times.

Ren Weidong, an associate research fellow at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, said the frequent military drills conducted by the US, Japan and South Korea around the Korean peninsula have placed great pressure on North Korea.

Since conventional weapons did not adequately deal with the threat, North Korea naturally turned to nuclear weapons, which are the most efficient and effective security guarantee for them, Ren said.

The North Korean nuclear issue has always been at the center of clashes with world powers. It provides the US an excuse to deploy its military power in the Far East, while Japan seizes on it to militarize, Gao Fei, a political scientist at the China Foreign Affairs University, told the Global Times.

 

[KN-1]

Where did he call you any names or abused you?

he said Pakistan is a rough state... is this not insult in ur book?

 

[forcetrip]

he said Pakistan is a rough state... is this not insult in ur book?

Do you believe it is a rouge state? If not then put facts and assertions as to why. Lots of people lie and manipulate sample size data on this forum which opposing points of view to promote their own narrative. It is never okay to abuse him personally for his propaganda. If you want to learn and participate here then you will use proper etiquette of how to communicate your point of view and frustrations like a human being.

 

[T-55]

Size of the North Korean device

The approximate scheme of underground tests

Objects of missile and nuclear program of North Korea

 

[Oldman1]

Seems they want to go out with a bang:

North Korea threatens US with nuclear attack | Daily Mail Online

North Korea issues nuclear warning to U.S. - CNN.com

Since they have yet to detonate a nuke on American soil or in South Korea, looks like they still care about keeping their country intact.

I think the North Koreans did test a similar theory couple of years ago in response to US-South Korea military exercises in the region.

What you know the US even cancelled its own ballistic missile test after North Korea threats began to sound too scary.

And yet North Korea didn't do anything when the U.S. kept doing exercises with South Korea after the warning. Did you know that?

North Korea threatens to attack U.S. - CNN.com

North Korea threatens to attack U.S.

(CNN)North Korea threatened to "retaliate against the U.S. with tremendous muscle" if it didn't cancel multinational military exercises scheduled to begin Monday.

South Korea conducts the yearly exercises, called Ulchi Freedom Guardian, with the United States and other allies "to enhance ... readiness, protect the region and maintain stability on the Korean peninsula," according to a statement from the Korea-U.S. Combined Forces Command.

Just as the event itself is annual, so too are the condemnations and threats of retaliation from the reclusive North Korean regime.

"The further Ulchi Freedom Guardian joint military exercises are intensified, the strongest military counteraction the (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) will take to cope with them," a spokesman for North Korea's National Defense Commission (NDC) said Saturday.

 

[Cyberian]

Since they have yet to detonate a nuke on American soil or in South Korea, looks like they still care about keeping their country intact.



And yet North Korea didn't do anything when the U.S. kept doing exercises with South Korea after the warning. Did you know that?

North Korea threatens to attack U.S. - CNN.com

North Korea threatens to attack U.S.

(CNN)North Korea threatened to "retaliate against the U.S. with tremendous muscle" if it didn't cancel multinational military exercises scheduled to begin Monday.

South Korea conducts the yearly exercises, called Ulchi Freedom Guardian, with the United States and other allies "to enhance ... readiness, protect the region and maintain stability on the Korean peninsula," according to a statement from the Korea-U.S. Combined Forces Command.

Just as the event itself is annual, so too are the condemnations and threats of retaliation from the reclusive North Korean regime.

"The further Ulchi Freedom Guardian joint military exercises are intensified, the strongest military counteraction the (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) will take to cope with them," a spokesman for North Korea's National Defense Commission (NDC) said Saturday.

I was talking about the specific incident when the US was intimidated enough by the North Koreans to cancel its own ballistic missile test.

 

[Oldman1]

I was talking about the specific incident when the US was intimidated enough by the North Koreans to cancel its own ballistic missile test.

They always keep testing ballistic missile test no matter what North Korea does.

 

[Cyberian]

They always keep testing ballistic missile test no matter what North Korea does.

US cancels missile test firing in a bid to scale down nuclear tensions with North Korea - Daily Record

US cancels missile test to pacify North Korea | The Times

 

[Oldman1]

US cancels missile test firing in a bid to scale down nuclear tensions with North Korea - Daily Record

US cancels missile test to pacify North Korea | The Times

Like I said, the U.S. will test no matter what North Korea does.
Navy launches second test missile off Southern California coast - LA Times

Navy launches second test missile off Southern California coast

The U.S. Navy said it launched a second -- and final -- missile in a planned exercise Monday afternoon from a submarine off the Southern California coast.

The second test launch of the Trident II (D5) missile from a ballistic submarine in the Pacific Ocean took place Monday afternoon, the Navy said. The blast-off took place to far less fanfare than Saturday night’s launch, which provoked residents from San Francisco to Mexico to take to social media, posting photos of an eerie-looking bluish-green plume smeared above the Pacific.