North Korea approves nuclear strike on US

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[anonymus]

You think Seoul can survive the North Korea's artillery specifically aimed at it ?

You do not mess with a mad man , it was really foolish of USA to start the whole provocation and put South Korea in danger , the mainland is far away and a normal Korean will bear the blunt of that psychopath Kim's actions ...

Man,

Once Kim impossible fires first shot,how long do you think it would take the combined might of US+SK+Japan to pulverize everything close to Demilitarize zone.

Artillery barrage to be effective need time.Also Artillery is a fixed target with low mobility.There is a good chance that SK has all Artillery emplacements marked for counter artillery barrage.And given the technological difference,i am of the opinion that NK artillery would be silenced within 15 minutes of the commencement of hostilities.

Read " Samson's option "

The side which theorized this option has resources to carry it out.Israel has close to 300(postulated) Thermonuclear Nukes.It could annihilate its opponent.

NK has 2 nukes that too of the yield which probably couple of MOABS would surpass.


The biggest weapon of NK is that they are ***** poor and no one would want to shoulder the cost of reconstruction.

 

[acid rain]

Man,

Once Kim impossible fires first shot,how long do you think it would take the combined might of US+SK+Japan to pulverize everything close to Demilitarize zone.

Artillery barrage to be effective need time.Also Artillery is a fixed target with low mobility.There is a good chance that SK has all Artillery emplacements marked for counter artillery barrage.And given the technological difference,i am of the opinion that NK artillery would be silenced within 15 minutes of the commencement of hostilities.



The side which theorized this option has resources to carry it out.Israel has close to 300(postulated) Thermonuclear Nukes.It could annihilate its opponent.

NK has 2 nukes that too of the yield which probably couple of MOABS would surpass.


The biggest weapon of NK is that they are ***** poor and no one would want to shoulder the cost of reconstruction.

LOL, Our Pakistani friend always lives in a bubble and never takes into account counter strikes, I remember having a long argument with him on "India's interest in the Iron Dome" thread where according to him India will only face a continous barrage of tens of thousands of Pak artillery fire forever without any retaliatory strike from India resulting in overwhelming of Iron dome like systems.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Man,

Once Kim impossible fires first shot,how long do you think it would take the combined might of US+SK+Japan to pulverize everything close to Demilitarize zone.

Artillery barrage to be effective need time.Also Artillery is a fixed target with low mobility.There is a good chance that SK has all Artillery emplacements marked for counter artillery barrage.And given the technological difference,i am of the opinion that NK artillery would be silenced within 15 minutes of the commencement of hostilities.

it seems you live in LALA Land silence 10000 peace of Artillery targeted at Seoul in just 15 min
by the way let say each artillery can fire one rocket or shell per minute it would be 150000 shell in the first 15 min . well I think that is very healthy for Seoul

and to me these things look pretty much mobile

 

[invincible]

jst read some Indian delegates (business?) were headed to NK..looks like it was pre-planned

 

[acid rain]

it seems you live in LALA Land silence 10000 peace of Artillery targeted at Seoul in just 15 min
by the way let say each artillery can fire one rocket or shell per minute it would be 150000 shell in the first 15 min . well I think that is very healthy for Seoul

Whats the point of targeting a civilian area? will that have any effect on the South's military might? you are assuming that the South will be just twiddling their thumbs when this so called massive buildup happens across the border, any large scale troop and artillery movement or activity will be construed as preparation of war and all sides will be geared up to fire back and take a hit as well.

Fat Kim should just go ahead and fire the first shot and see what happens after that.

 

[GoodBoy]

News : North Korea approves nuclear strike on US.

Meaning : North Korea approves it's destruction beyond recognition by US.

 

[MooshMoosh]

People need to understand, the Koreans were already brainwashed by the Kim Dynasty, they all hated Americans. If Americans invaded North korea then it'll be worse, no matter if they opened the border it will lead to a civil war between South and North and who is it to blame? US. Just look at Iraq, the Shia supported US intervention while the Suuni opposed it and now look how corrupt Iraq is because of US.

Also, North Korea can invade US anytime they want because the East and the Western seas are surrounding America and the radiation wouldn't spread toward North to Canada or South to Mexico. If North Korea is nuked then the radiation would spread toward to South Korea, Japan, China, or even India and West Russia and if North Korea retaliates from Nuclear attack they would simply nuke South Korea.

 

[Star Wars]

if a war starts, south Korea is doomed ... the US bases are well protected ...... but south Korean cities and military installations will be the first to get nuked ....

 

[Audio]

They dont even know how to aim, camo is giving them away, officer holding the gun wrong, if anything happens turkey shoot is guaranteed.....

 

[Secur]

Man,

Once Kim impossible fires first shot,how long do you think it would take the combined might of US+SK+Japan to pulverize everything close to Demilitarize zone.

Artillery barrage to be effective need time.Also Artillery is a fixed target with low mobility.There is a good chance that SK has all Artillery emplacements marked for counter artillery barrage.And given the technological difference,i am of the opinion that NK artillery would be silenced within 15 minutes of the commencement of hostilities.



The side which theorized this option has resources to carry it out.Israel has close to 300(postulated) Thermonuclear Nukes.It could annihilate its opponent.

NK has 2 nukes that too of the yield which probably couple of MOABS would surpass.


The biggest weapon of NK is that they are ***** poor and no one would want to shoulder the cost of reconstruction.

I have no doubts that North Korea will go down but it can and has the power to inflict " unacceptable damage " on South Korea while the Americans are protected in their mainland . The million dollar question here is " Why should a common Korea ( on both sides ) minus the Govt fight a war for US interests ? " . What is to be gained with the whole episode starting with US provocation by flights to the peninsula ?

Pray tell me , how much time ? Is it hours , days or weeks ? No , that artillery fire can begin within minutes of a declaration of war , what is the South going to do then ? I am sure that they have counter artillery but how exactly do you neutralize the world's largest artillery force with 11,000-13,000 artillery within minutes as per you ? Here's some excerpt I found at IISS

Nonetheless, despite shortages of spare parts, fuel and training time, North Korea’s conventional capabilities pose a significant threat to allied forces and South Korea’s population. For example, North Korea’s artillery capability does not require sophisticated tactics nor modes of operation to pose a threat to Seoul. In any conflict, North Korean artillery, firing from fortified positions near the DMZ, could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital. Allied counter-battery fire and air strikes would eventually reduce North Korea’s artillery capability, but not before significant damage and high casualties had been inflicted on Seoul.

http://www.iiss.org/publications/st...he-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/

Even if its nuclear arsenal could be bombed, North Korea has 11,000 artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, only 26 miles from the border. A 5 to 6 minute barrage would reduce the South Korean capital to rubble. Even if each piece fired only once before being bombed as well, 11,000 artillery shells would rain down on Seoul.

The arsenal includes 13,000 artillery pieces, along with rockets, multiple-rocket launchers and more than 650 ballistic missiles. Warheads on the missiles can be armed with nerve gas and blistering and choking agents. The North Koreans continue to develop biological weapons such as anthrax, plague, cholera and even smallpox, according to U.S. intelligence.


Estimates of the damage that could be inflicted by a North Korean attack range from bad to apocalyptic. Lee Yang Ho, defense minister during a similar nuclear crisis in 1994, said one computer simulation conducted during his term projected 1 million dead, including thousands of Americans."It is assumed that if the United States were to strike North Korea that the North Koreans would fight back," Lee said. "All industry would be destroyed, gas stations, power plants. This is such a densely populated area that even if North Korean artillery were not very accurate, anyplace you would hit there would be huge numbers of casualties."

Seoul's Vulnerability Is Key to War Scenarios

The side which theorized this option was somehow trying to show the Americans that they will defend themselves by putting a trigger to their head , the same is true with North Korea . It just happens that Tel Aviv threat profile is quite large but Pyongyang has few enemies and they are very close .

No , the number is estimated to be around 10-14 range enough to again do " unacceptable damage " on South Korea , Japan and US military bases around .

I will agree on that , but there's no end to Kim's madness , the Chinese are on record saying that we asked him to become more open to the world and he didn't listen .

Man,

Once Kim impossible fires first shot,how long do you think it would take the combined might of US+SK+Japan to pulverize everything close to Demilitarize zone.

Artillery barrage to be effective need time.Also Artillery is a fixed target with low mobility.There is a good chance that SK has all Artillery emplacements marked for counter artillery barrage.And given the technological difference,i am of the opinion that NK artillery would be silenced within 15 minutes of the commencement of hostilities.



The side which theorized this option has resources to carry it out.Israel has close to 300(postulated) Thermonuclear Nukes.It could annihilate its opponent.

NK has 2 nukes that too of the yield which probably couple of MOABS would surpass.


The biggest weapon of NK is that they are ***** poor and no one would want to shoulder the cost of reconstruction.

I have no doubts that North Korea will go down but it can and has the power to inflict " unacceptable damage " on South Korea while the Americans are protected in their mainland . The million dollar question here is " Why should a common Korea ( on both sides ) minus the Govt fight a war for US interests ? " . What is to be gained with the whole episode starting with US provocation by flights to the peninsula ?

Pray tell me , how much time ? Is it hours , days or weeks ? No , that artillery fire can begin within minutes of a declaration of war , what is the South going to do then ? I am sure that they have counter artillery but how exactly do you neutralize the world's largest artillery force with 11,000-13,000 artillery within minutes as per you ? Here's some excerpt I found at IISS

Nonetheless, despite shortages of spare parts, fuel and training time, North Korea’s conventional capabilities pose a significant threat to allied forces and South Korea’s population. For example, North Korea’s artillery capability does not require sophisticated tactics nor modes of operation to pose a threat to Seoul. In any conflict, North Korean artillery, firing from fortified positions near the DMZ, could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital. Allied counter-battery fire and air strikes would eventually reduce North Korea’s artillery capability, but not before significant damage and high casualties had been inflicted on Seoul.

http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-*****/the-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/

Even if its nuclear arsenal could be bombed, North Korea has 11,000 artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, only 26 miles from the border. A 5 to 6 minute barrage would reduce the South Korean capital to rubble. Even if each piece fired only once before being bombed as well, 11,000 artillery shells would rain down on Seoul.

The arsenal includes 13,000 artillery pieces, along with rockets, multiple-rocket launchers and more than 650 ballistic missiles. Warheads on the missiles can be armed with nerve gas and blistering and choking agents. The North Koreans continue to develop biological weapons such as anthrax, plague, cholera and even smallpox, according to U.S. intelligence.


Estimates of the damage that could be inflicted by a North Korean attack range from bad to apocalyptic. Lee Yang Ho, defense minister during a similar nuclear crisis in 1994, said one computer simulation conducted during his term projected 1 million dead, including thousands of Americans."It is assumed that if the United States were to strike North Korea that the North Koreans would fight back," Lee said. "All industry would be destroyed, gas stations, power plants. This is such a densely populated area that even if North Korean artillery were not very accurate, anyplace you would hit there would be huge numbers of casualties."

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/seoulsvulnerability.html

The side which theorized this option was somehow trying to show the Americans that they will defend themselves by putting a trigger to their head , the same is true with North Korea . It just happens that Tel Aviv threat profile is quite large but Pyongyang has few enemies and they are very close .

No , the number is estimated to be around 10-14 range enough to again do " unacceptable damage " on South Korea , Japan and US military bases around .

I will agree on that , but there's no end to Kim's madness , the Chinese are on record saying that we asked him to become more open to the world and he didn't listen .

 

[Dillinger]

I have no doubts that North Korea will go down but it can and has the power to inflict " unacceptable damage " on South Korea while the Americans are protected in their mainland . The million dollar question here is " Why should a common Korea ( on both sides ) minus the Govt fight a war for US interests ? " . What is to be gained with the whole episode starting with US provocation by flights to the peninsula ?

Pray tell me , how much time ? Is it hours , days or weeks ? No , that artillery fire can begin within minutes of a declaration of war , what is the South going to do then ? I am sure that they have counter artillery but how exactly do you neutralize the world's largest artillery force with 11,000-13,000 artillery within minutes as per you ? Here's some excerpt I found at IISS

Nonetheless, despite shortages of spare parts, fuel and training time, North Korea’s conventional capabilities pose a significant threat to allied forces and South Korea’s population. For example, North Korea’s artillery capability does not require sophisticated tactics nor modes of operation to pose a threat to Seoul. In any conflict, North Korean artillery, firing from fortified positions near the DMZ, could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital. Allied counter-battery fire and air strikes would eventually reduce North Korea’s artillery capability, but not before significant damage and high casualties had been inflicted on Seoul.

http://www.iiss.org/publications/st...he-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/

Even if its nuclear arsenal could be bombed, North Korea has 11,000 artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, only 26 miles from the border. A 5 to 6 minute barrage would reduce the South Korean capital to rubble. Even if each piece fired only once before being bombed as well, 11,000 artillery shells would rain down on Seoul.

The arsenal includes 13,000 artillery pieces, along with rockets, multiple-rocket launchers and more than 650 ballistic missiles. Warheads on the missiles can be armed with nerve gas and blistering and choking agents. The North Koreans continue to develop biological weapons such as anthrax, plague, cholera and even smallpox, according to U.S. intelligence.


Estimates of the damage that could be inflicted by a North Korean attack range from bad to apocalyptic. Lee Yang Ho, defense minister during a similar nuclear crisis in 1994, said one computer simulation conducted during his term projected 1 million dead, including thousands of Americans."It is assumed that if the United States were to strike North Korea that the North Koreans would fight back," Lee said. "All industry would be destroyed, gas stations, power plants. This is such a densely populated area that even if North Korean artillery were not very accurate, anyplace you would hit there would be huge numbers of casualties."

Seoul's Vulnerability Is Key to War Scenarios

The side which theorized this option was somehow trying to show the Americans that they will defend themselves by putting a trigger to their head , the same is true with North Korea . It just happens that Tel Aviv threat profile is quite large but Pyongyang has few enemies and they are very close .

No , the number is estimated to be around 10-14 range enough to again do " unacceptable damage " on South Korea , Japan and US military bases around .

I will agree on that , but there's no end to Kim's madness , the Chinese are on record saying that we asked him to become more open to the world and he didn't listen .



I have no doubts that North Korea will go down but it can and has the power to inflict " unacceptable damage " on South Korea while the Americans are protected in their mainland . The million dollar question here is " Why should a common Korea ( on both sides ) minus the Govt fight a war for US interests ? " . What is to be gained with the whole episode starting with US provocation by flights to the peninsula ?

Pray tell me , how much time ? Is it hours , days or weeks ? No , that artillery fire can begin within minutes of a declaration of war , what is the South going to do then ? I am sure that they have counter artillery but how exactly do you neutralize the world's largest artillery force with 11,000-13,000 artillery within minutes as per you ? Here's some excerpt I found at IISS

Nonetheless, despite shortages of spare parts, fuel and training time, North Korea’s conventional capabilities pose a significant threat to allied forces and South Korea’s population. For example, North Korea’s artillery capability does not require sophisticated tactics nor modes of operation to pose a threat to Seoul. In any conflict, North Korean artillery, firing from fortified positions near the DMZ, could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital. Allied counter-battery fire and air strikes would eventually reduce North Korea’s artillery capability, but not before significant damage and high casualties had been inflicted on Seoul.

http://www.iiss.org/publications/st...he-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/

Even if its nuclear arsenal could be bombed, North Korea has 11,000 artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, only 26 miles from the border. A 5 to 6 minute barrage would reduce the South Korean capital to rubble. Even if each piece fired only once before being bombed as well, 11,000 artillery shells would rain down on Seoul.

The arsenal includes 13,000 artillery pieces, along with rockets, multiple-rocket launchers and more than 650 ballistic missiles. Warheads on the missiles can be armed with nerve gas and blistering and choking agents. The North Koreans continue to develop biological weapons such as anthrax, plague, cholera and even smallpox, according to U.S. intelligence.


Estimates of the damage that could be inflicted by a North Korean attack range from bad to apocalyptic. Lee Yang Ho, defense minister during a similar nuclear crisis in 1994, said one computer simulation conducted during his term projected 1 million dead, including thousands of Americans."It is assumed that if the United States were to strike North Korea that the North Koreans would fight back," Lee said. "All industry would be destroyed, gas stations, power plants. This is such a densely populated area that even if North Korean artillery were not very accurate, anyplace you would hit there would be huge numbers of casualties."

Seoul's Vulnerability Is Key to War Scenarios

The side which theorized this option was somehow trying to show the Americans that they will defend themselves by putting a trigger to their head , the same is true with North Korea . It just happens that Tel Aviv threat profile is quite large but Pyongyang has few enemies and they are very close .

No , the number is estimated to be around 10-14 range enough to again do " unacceptable damage " on South Korea , Japan and US military bases around .

I will agree on that , but there's no end to Kim's madness , the Chinese are on record saying that we asked him to become more open to the world and he didn't listen .

The real question is who will go first. Once NK commits itself everything else is irrelevant, at that point massive casualties or not SK and USA will retaliate- will HAVE to retaliate.

The above stated points deter SK and the States from being the party that actually initiates armed conflict and trying to prevent it in the first place through reasonable means but it has never been enough to stop the States from enforcing sanction after sanction no matter how much NK huffs and puffs. Right now the belligerence is emanating from NK and SK and the US are reciprocating. If NK commits then SK can be rebuild but NK will be history, not in terms of hyperbole, but in reality. Nor is the Samson doctrine applicable to them, they don't have the sufficient no. of warheads and delivery vehicles, besides the AEGIS ABM version will probably knock out the 2-3 "No-Dongs" NK can muster, in this case even a 50% success rate on part of the Aegis will sink NK's boat.

Lets see what happens, hope they GO- always wanted to live in "interesting times".

 

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