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From you, you mean!MBT3000 is for making money from 狗大户。
MBT 3000 needs to be upgraded massively.
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From you, you mean!MBT3000 is for making money from 狗大户。
hi Bro, can Pakistan produce mbt2000 all by yourself now?@DESERT FIGHTER @Dazzler Is it me or does it strikingly resemble Al-Khalid ?
No,it indicates the super rich customers like UAE, Saudi and Kuwait by Chinese military lover, and we are so envy with that they can afford some really good equipements produced by China but PLA can not due to budget shortage in our poor old days . Iraqi is also considered as 狗大户 in 1980s.狗大户。
Is that means (( big dog ).
No,it indicates the super rich customers like UAE, Saudi and Kuwait by Chinese military lover, and we are so envy with that they can afford some really good equipements produced by China but PLA can not due to budget shortage in our poor old days . Iraqi is also considered as 狗大户 in 1980s.
In NORINCO's target list, VT-3: low end; VT-2: medium customer; VT-1A(MBT-2000): medium to high end customer while VT-4(MBT-3000): high end customer.
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I think China is unwilling to sell J10 at this stage, because it's its top advanced main frontline figther, exporting to other parties may lead to the disclosure of its high technology. Another factor is that J10' productivity still cannot fullfil PLA's demand, no extra products can be offered for sales. For J11 and its series, reasons are similar with J10 in addition that it's involved with intellectual property rights, which is claimed by Russia, so you can see that China never publicly advocate J10/J11 series for export.Let me tell you clearly. Pakistan is very happy with its JF17 Block I, Block II and eventually Block III upgrades. There is no chance it is going to leave that for another 15-20+ years.
Second point is export, mostly it is the Americans who have always stopped our sales prospect to the prospective countries and India comes at the second.
Neverthless, after 15+ years how many French Rafale jets it got export, almost everyone says it is a failed project, which is wrong too. Let me come to Chinese Air force if J10 is not for sale, then what aircrafts for sale, J11s...how many J11s it got sold ??
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I'm afraid that China/Pak don't have enough productivity to build extra JF-17 for sales.Thirdly, China and Pakistan are one and the same thing, as we think like, like Brothers...so Chinese/Pakistan sales are not as counted as really a export order, unless it is necessary to make ones country lift its sales status, normally world doesnot count it as a customer-business relationship too.
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Agree. JF17 will have bright export prospects. Current bottleneck is productivity, sales service and engines availability.Let me tell you clearly. Pakistan is very happy with its JF17 Block I, Block II
lastly, customers still want improvements on Jf17s like the AESA radar, and other improved parts, countries definately want a replacement in FUTURE, so donot worry about that, and remember currently capacity is low, Pakistan and Chinese factories are not even able to full fill PAF orders yet, talk abt exporting.
lets get back to mbt 3000 / vt4 possible future Al Haider tank here. ok.
Produce many parts .... and assemble many partscan Pakistan produce mbt2000 all by yourself now?
No matter they will buy or not,NORINCO should have the high end product off the shelf. This is a commercial strategy for any mature companyI don't think middle eastern nations would go for VT-4 when they can easily afford a crap load of Abrams and Leos.
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China is ready to sell J-10 we don't have money to buy themI think China is unwilling to sell J10 at this stage, because it's its top advanced main frontline figther, exporting to other parties may lead to the disclosure of its high technology. Another factor is that J10' productivity still cannot fullfil PLA's demand, no extra products can be offered for sales. For J11 and its series, reasons are similar with J10 in addition that it's involved with intellectual property rights, which is claimed by Russia, so you can see that China never publicly advocate J10/J11 series for export.
I'm afraid that China/Pak don't have enough productivity to build extra JF-17 for sales.
Agree. JF17 will have bright export prospects. Current bottleneck is productivity, sales service and engines availability.
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Yet I can't find formal information about J-10 export in chinese media. But it's possible that it is just not reported, just like before some weapon export deals were not reported in my country and we found them from foreign magzines. If it's true, I think it may be a special treatment to Pakistan due to special relation between our two country.China is ready to sell J-10 we don't have money to buy them
Yet I can't find formal information about J-10 export in chinese media. But it's possible that it is just not reported, just like before some weapon export deals were not reported in my country and we found them from foreign magzines. If it's true, I think it may be a special treatment to Pakistan due to special relation between our two country.
Israel and usa working on laser tanks which can cut through anything from steel concrete missiles etc if it is future than we must look where we want to be heading