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The battle of Rezang La was the only bright spot for India in the 1962 war with China. In this Walk the Talk with The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta on NDTV 24x7, Ramchander Yadav and Nihal Singh, two of the six soldiers who survived that battle, look back at the events of that icy November morning 50 years ago




It's sad that any time we talk about the India-China war of 1962, horrible words like debacle, disgrace, disaster come to our minds. This is the 50th anniversary of that war. It's a war that this country ideally would love to forget but cannot because it's etched in our memories as one of the saddest chapters of our independent history. And it's sadder still that because of that overwhelming sense of failure in that war, we tend to sometimes almost deliberately ignore the one chapter that I think is without parallel in modern post Second World War military history, the battle of Rezang La on November 18, 1962. I will give you a brief history. Charlie Company of a battalion called 13 Kumaon was divided in several platoons on one ridge of two kilometres, protecting the airfield of Chushul which was vital if India was to hold Ladakh. It was attacked on the morning of November 18 by maybe 5,000-6,000 Chinese with heavy artillery support. A crest behind this ridge prevented Indian artillery from being able to support these jawans. And what did these jawans do? They fought to last man, last round. That's an expression you hear in movies and read in war comics, but that is something that actually happened in the battle of Rezang La. Of the 120 men and officers of this Company, 114 died, five were taken prisoners as wounded—they all escaped—and one was sent back to tell the story of the battle to the rest of the world. And who sent him back? This Company's most remarkable commander, Major Shaitan Singh, who got a Param Vir Chakra for leading this battle. I am today in Rewari, the area from where these jawans came... It was a Kumaon battalion but this was an Ahir Company from Rewari in Haryana. With me are two of those six survivors—in fact, only four remain with us now—Honorary captain Ramchander Yadav and Havaldar Nihal Singh. So both of you were with Major Shaitan Singh?

Yadav: I was his radio man.

Singh: And I was his personal guard with the light machine gun (LMG).

And you saw the whole war?

Singh: I cannot sleep when those scenes come to my mind. It has been 50 years, yet it seems the war has just taken place.

You were handling LMG for the company commander's protection. After you were hit by bullets, did you stop firing?

Singh: I disassembled the LMG and threw it so that the enemy could not use it. I was in terrible pain. My body was still. After some time, they pulled me out from the bunker. They asked my name in English. They asked for the names of my Commanding Officer and Brigade Commander. I said no. And then they asked me to go for first aid by communicating in sign language.

You were at 18,000 ft and there was snowfall?

Yadav and Singh: Yes, and the wind was very cold.

Singh: They took me to their post around 5 p.m. I could see their artillery on the other side of the ditch. I thought of running but waited.

How did you escape from their custody?

Singh: The soldiers who took me in custody were walking around and talking. By then it became dark and it occurred to me that I should run. I slowly sneaked out from there. When I walked almost 500 metres, they fired three shots in the air.

You went back to the headquarters?

Singh: Yes, on November 19, around 1 p.m., I reached the headquarters. On November 22, we were admitted to a hospital in Jammu where we were treated.

Yadav saab, you were specially sent back so that others may know the story of the war.

Yadav: Yes, that was the motive of Major saab.

Major Shaitan Singh was not from Rewari. He was from Rajasthan.

Yadav: He was from Rajasthan. He was a Rajput. His name was Shaitan Singh but he was god.

Please describe the scene of that day. The attack started at 3:30 a.m.?

Yadav: I was a sepoy in Charlie Company of 13 Kumaon Regiment and was with the Major at Rezang La post. At 3:30 am, firing took place at the section of Naik Gulab Singh, who later got the Vir Chakra.

This one Company had one Param Vir Chakra, five Vir Chakras, and four Sena medals, including you. Medals were rarely awarded those days, still so many were given. What happened after that?

Yadav: We got alerts. When my officer asked, I said Platoon No 8 had informed that the enemy had attacked. The enemy was trying to climb but the LMG of Hukam Chand (Vir Chakra) killed four. After 10 minutes, Platoon 7 informed me about the attack on them. I asked Surja Ram (Vir Chakra) how things were. He said they had taken their positions and that 400 people were trying to climb from 14,000 ft to 18,000 ft.

All the names of your comrades are written on the memorial here in Rewari. The list here says that 114 jawans killed 1,300 Chinese enemies that day.

Yadav: I saw that with my own eyes. Bodies were lying all around.

So when you knew that thousands of Chinese were coming, that they had artillery support while your artillery wouldn't reach you because of the huge mountain behind you, was it evident that you had to stay put?

Yadav: Yes, there was no going back then.

Did anyone think of saving their own lives, withdrawing? What did the Major tell you?

Yadav: The Major said if we have to withdraw, then do it. But the jawans and the JCOs said we will not leave Rezang La. We have the blessings of Lord Krishna. The Major said I am with you and I am a Yadav too, so what if my name is Bhati?

What happened next? Where were you and the Major when the fire came?

Yadav: I was at the command post with platoons on either side on the two-kilometre ridge. I was with the Major. After a while, a message came from Platoon No 8. Hari Ram (Vir Chakra) said the enemy was coming through the ridge, but we would kill them once they are in range. They repulsed that attack.

Many Chinese died. Did you see their bodies?

Yadav: Yes. They were lying scattered like berries in a market. They kept climbing up, and we were at our post. Two attacks were repulsed. Then, Platoon 7 was attacked. They didn't attack Platoon 9 even though it was at the front. Their plan was to isolate Platoon 9. But they didn't know that our commander had made arrangements so that no one could climb up.

So you had made a killing ground?

Yadav: Yes, the third and fourth attacks on Platoon 8 were also repulsed. Then they attacked with full force. That's when Surja Ram declared, Ramchander, now is the time when we will all fight out of our posts in the name of hand-to-hand combat. My communication with Platoon 7 stopped. Communication started with Platoon 8 when 14-15 yaks and around 700 Chinese took position on the ridge in between us and Platoon 8.

They came from behind?

Yadav: Yes, first we thought it was our battalion's Alpha Company that had come to help us. We thought the CO might have sent them for our help but when they started positioning their yaks and machine guns, then Havaldar Major Harphool Singh said this is the enemy. After that, the Major ordered for nine platoons to be sent from the headquarters. Since the enemy was going to attack Platoon 8, we would attack them from behind and they would be trapped between Platoon 8 and us and we would finish them.
 
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You forgot about the time when an Indian company of 20 soldiers defeated 10 American Carrier Battle Groups with their swords...Truly great battle. Even American generals admitted that the Indian military prowess is unmatched.

Indians have a habit of exaggerating their soldiers bravery. I remember in Kargil war they awarded their highest medal to some soldier. Who gloriously defeated 100s of Pakistanis and died defending India. Years later the soldier turns out alive!!! So how did he DIE defeating the Pakistanis? Obviously an asspulled story. I won't be surprised if all of these stories are asspulled as well.
 
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Dude, what's your obsession with a battle which happened in 1967 ? Wake up man. We are in 2015. Stop behaving like the Pakistanis :D
 
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Feeling proud that they were from Haryana.



You forgot about the time when an Indian company of 20 soldiers defeated 10 American Carrier Battle Groups with their swords...Truly great battle. Even American generals admitted that the Indian military prowess is unmatched.


There is something called fighting to the last man. You don't know this, because you are famous for surrender. The above war is just an example of soldiers.

Dude, what's your obsession with a battle which happened in 1967 ? Wake up man. We are in 2015. Stop behaving like the Pakistanis :D

You stop behaving like a Pakistani. They gave their life for us, the more we remember them is better. but nothing can even near their supreme sacrifice for the country.

Battle of Saragarhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Battle of Saragarhi was fought before the Tirah Campaign on 12 September 1897 between twenty-one Sikhs of the 36th Sikhs (now the 4th Battalion of the Sikh Regiment) of British India, defending an army post, and 10,000 Afghan and Orakzai tribesmen. The battle occurred in the North-West Frontier Province, which formed part of British India. It is now named the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and is part of Pakistan.

The contingent of the twenty-one Sikhs from the 36th Sikhs was led byHavildar Ishar Singh. They all chose to fight to the death. It is considered by some military historians as one of history's great last-stands.[9] Sikh military personnel and Sikh civilians commemorate the battle every year on 12 September, as Saragarhi Day as the battle was given the honour of a regimental holiday.

Commanders and leaders
Havildar Ishar Singh Gul Badshah
Units involved
36th Sikhs of British Indian Army Afridis and Orakzais
Strength
21[1] 10,000[2][3]
Casualties and losses
21 killed (100%)[1] 180 killed (Afghan claim)[4]
~450 killed[5] (British Indian estimates)*
Many wounded[6](number unknown)
 
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All this reminds me is the Chinese stories during WW2. They did this, they did that. If I didn't know any better, I say we won.

Good to see propaganda is the same everywhere, including US and Canada.
 
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We as a country must not speak about these things without sensitivity. People in private discussion may be speaking about the specifics and the number of dead, but media printing such boastful accounts of someone claiming so many deaths is not good behaviour at all.
 
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There is something called fighting to the last man. You don't know this, because you are famous for surrender. The above war is just an example of soldiers.
You don't seem recall the beating you got in 1948, 1965 and 1999, not to forget when your Bharat was split into 3 pieces in 1947. 1971 was a civil war, no one cares about Bangladesh, they can have their country.
 
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All this reminds me is the Chinese stories during WW2. They did this, they did that. If I didn't know any better, I say we won.

Good to see propaganda is the same everywhere, including US and Canada.


No one is saying we won but this is a story of bravery.
 
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I don't' find this hard to believe. you only need to look up some of the major battles in the Korea war that involved the Chinese to see battle after battle they suffered huge losses.
 
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You don't seem recall the beating you got in 1948, 1965 and 1999, not to forget when your Bharat was split into 3 pieces in 1947. 1971 was a civil war, no one cares about Bangladesh, they can have their country.

48, 65 and 99 you own? You also won in 71 as well. :D


1948: Indian army went to kashmir and you escaped from there. The Kashmir velley and most of the part of Kashmir is with us.
Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1965: You started Op Zibraltar. A disaster, IA was in Lahore. Ayub had to resign.
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1999: Only one... sentence is enough .. Nawaz went to Washington for crying.
Kargil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't' find this hard to believe. you only need to look up some of the major battles in the Korea war that involved the Chinese to see battle after battle they suffered huge losses.


They came in thousands. overwhelmed 1:4 in rezang la itself. Indian soldiers fought to the last man before all of them were killed.
 
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1948: Indian army went to kashmir and you escaped from there. The Kashmir velley and most of the part of Kashmir is with us.
Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Indian Army tried to take Kashmir, beaten back by untrained pathan tribesmen.
1965: You started Op Zibraltar. A disaster, IA was in Lahore. Ayub had to resign.
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
India tried to escalate the conflict by attacking along the international boundary line, underestimated the infantry battalion deployed there, beaten back.
1999: Only one... sentence is enough .. Nawaz went to Washington for crying.
Kargil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
India failed to vacate the posts through military action. International Diplomatic pressure forced Pakistan to withdraw, as obviously we were the aggressors.
 
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You forgot about the time when an Indian company of 20 soldiers defeated 10 American Carrier Battle Groups with their swords...Truly great battle. Even American generals admitted that the Indian military prowess is unmatched.

Stuff happens in battle. Stuff that makes reality look more fiction than fiction itself.

Heinrich Severloh a soldier in the German 352nd Infantry Division, which was stationed in Normandy in 1944. He was posted as an mg42 gunner in a bunker above the beach called (KM 62) “Widerstandsnest 62”, this postion covered a large section of the water line and the sand , but was very difficult to assualt from the beach , thus giving good cover and providing agood field of fire,from this position allowed him to(allegedly) kill or injure 2000-2500 American soldiers caught whilst landing during Operation Overlord, He was and continues to be known as the “Beast of Omaha Beach” in the English speaking media. his claims of manning his post for 9 hours , firing about 12500 mg 42 rounds (total allocated for that position) and about 1000 rounds via his and captured american rifles and being one of the last germany soldiers still defending the beach head defences , is collaborated by other members of the bunker and american troops who captured him .he was born 23 June 1923 in Metzingen (now Eldingen) died 14 January 2006 in Lachendorf, both near Celle, northen germany .hope this helps.
 
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Indian Army tried to take Kashmir, beaten back by untrained pathan tribesmen.

Yes, now Kashmir is part of Pakistan... all hail you!! :rofl:


India tried to escalate the conflict by attacking along the international boundary line, underestimated the infantry battalion deployed there, beaten back.
Beaten back to lahore? :D

India failed to vacate the posts through military action. International Diplomatic pressure forced Pakistan to withdraw, as obviously we were the aggressors.
Why did you withdraw because of diplomatic pressure from outsiders? Your soldier's life doesn't have any value?


So its clear that PAKISTAN WON ALL THE WARS WITH INDIA.
 
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Stuff happens in battle. Stuff that makes reality look more fiction than fiction itself.

Heinrich Severloh a soldier in the German 352nd Infantry Division, which was stationed in Normandy in 1944. He was posted as an mg42 gunner in a bunker above the beach called (KM 62) “Widerstandsnest 62”, this postion covered a large section of the water line and the sand , but was very difficult to assualt from the beach , thus giving good cover and providing agood field of fire,from this position allowed him to(allegedly) kill or injure 2000-2500 American soldiers caught whilst landing during Operation Overlord, He was and continues to be known as the “Beast of Omaha Beach” in the English speaking media. his claims of manning his post for 9 hours , firing about 12500 mg 42 rounds (total allocated for that position) and about 1000 rounds via his and captured american rifles and being one of the last germany soldiers still defending the beach head defences , is collaborated by other members of the bunker and american troops who captured him .he was born 23 June 1923 in Metzingen (now Eldingen) died 14 January 2006 in Lachendorf, both near Celle, northen germany .hope this helps.

a few worth mentioning.... from internet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Se...

Closely followed by Joginder Singh Sahnan

Joginder Singh Sahnan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jaswant Singh Rawat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Michael Wittmann received the Oak Leafs to his Knights Cross for single handedly winning numerous battles on the Eastern front, most notably the 3rd Battle of Kharkov. Wittman's Tiger I stopped an entire Canadian division outside of Caen during the Normandy invasion, altho in a losing effort


II SS Panzer Corps under Hausser in March of 1943 for beating a Red Army 7 times its size at Karkhov

Hans-Ulrich Rudel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rudel flew 2,530 combat missions claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed; including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery pieces, 70 landing craft, nine aircraft, four armored trains, several bridges, a destroyer, two cruisers, and the Soviet battleship Marat.

Manfred von Richthofen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He is considered the top ace of the war, being officially credited with 80 air combat victories.
 
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