No to CPEC unless Pakistan Provide Trade Access to India! Ghani

[elf]

I never disputed ports benefit to Pakistan. My questions is why u expect chinese will ship their goods via gwadar port when they hav cheaper sea route.

we don't expect they said. i had attached an official message for your satisfaction, again i attach it

and who said sea route is cheaper, FYI from Sinkiang to Gawadar it takes only 10 days to reach middle east while from sea route it takes 45 days, so what route will be cheaper, secondly strait of Malacca is a hub of piracy, and CPEC is a alternate route of that sea route...

apni e thoki ja rhy ho...patta watta kuch bhi nhi

 

[maravan91]

we don't expect they said. i had attached an official message for your satisfaction, again i attach it
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and who said sea route is cheaper, FYI from Sinkiang to Gawadar it takes only 10 days to reach middle east while from sea route it takes 45 days, so what route will be cheaper, secondly strait of Malacca is a hub of piracy, and CPEC is a alternate route of that sea route...

apni e thoki ja rhy ho...patta watta kuch bhi nhi

https://www.dawn.com/news/1304447

A large fraction of Pakistan’s trade with China — $16bn — occurs through the sea route: 97pc through sea, 2pc by air and 1pc by land.

When Pakistan itself is not using karakoram highway for trade with chinese, you expect chinese to send their goods 8000 km overland to gwadar and again to load in ships?

malacca straight has piracy problem

 

[elf]

He simply says it will enhance the trade.That doesn't mean they will use gwadar port to trade with other countries. Even 99% Pakistan's trade with china is happening via sea route not karakoram highway.

i know it will difficult for you to digest but you have to digest it....and i don't know how.....

 

[Finer]

Does Afghanistan realize that Iran want to be alternate option given the progress of Chabahar Port?

And we didn't know India was desperate to be part of CPEC. Stop hiding by the woman [Afghanistan] and man it up, India.

 

[elf]

When u can't answer, resort to personal attack.

i am tired of your sick questions not attacking on you

 

[Finer]

When u can't answer, resort to personal attack.

He said you might not digest the answer, and judging by your response, he was right.

 

[elf]

malacca straight has piracy problem

CPEC project was started in 2015, not ten years before as u said earlier, it will take time to complete, be calm and wait for the completion of this project,

secondly

search on google "piracy in strait of Malacca"

malacca straight has piracy problem

CPEC project was started in 2015, not ten years before as u said earlier, it will take time to complete, be calm and wait for the completion of this project,

secondly

search on google "piracy in strait of Malacca"

 

[idune]

When u can't answer, resort to personal attack.

With all educational institutions and boasting by indians, there is still NO known treatment or answer for indian circular logic. This national illness of indians passed from generation to generation. If anyone invent a treatment, will deserve a nobel prize and I, for one, will celebrate that.

 

[elf]

still no answers for this questions?



Karakoram highway was there for last 4 decades. Gwadar port is operational since 2008. Still 99% of your trade with china is happening via sea route.

CPEC project was started in 2015, not ten years before as u said earlier, it will take time to complete, be calm and wait for the completion of this project,

what is this??? i think it answer of your QUESTION

He said you might not digest the answer, and judging by your response, he was right.

about whom you are talking about Mr Fallen???

 

[elf]

If land route is cheap as claimed by you, why Pakistan is not using land route to trade with china.

u have asked many questions and i am answering u like duffers...now u tell me why are so interested in this project then i'l answer u

 

[Signalian]

This is the real situation

EMPTY CONTAINERS: Several containers that were brought to Gwadar were empty, according to people privy to the arrangements. Pakistan’s persistent trade deficit means that containers regularly accumulate within the country and often have to be shipped out empty.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1296262


Ever wondered its almost year after this PR stunt by both shariff, no containers from chinese side came to gwadar.

The first trade convoy carrying goods for export through the western route of China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and a Chinese ship arrived at Gwadar Port on Nov 12, 2016.

According to official sources, while one Chinese ship has been anchored at Gwadar Port, another is expected to reach on Saturday. The goods would be exported through Gwadar port to Middle East and African countries.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1228780/first-chinese-trade-convoy-arrives-gwadar-cpec/

you need to learn.Port is in operational for last 10 years. Still it is recieving only 2 or 3 ships every month. Even Pakistani traders r not using this port. You expect chinese to trade via gwadar port

You need to learn that the port doesnt run on your criteria or needs. Gwadar port got operational in Nov 2016 and trading has begun. Every process is slow at start and will pick up in coming years. Many companies and containers already have contracts on different routes and trading which cannot change and be shifted to Gwadar over night.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1229387/new-era-gwadar-port-begin-trade-activities-today/

 

[Finer]

CPEC project was started in 2015, not ten years before as u said earlier, it will take time to complete, be calm and wait for the completion of this project,

what is this??? i think it answer of your QUESTION



about whom you are talking about Mr Fallen???

Great. That is gonna take forever to bring you up to the speed. Never mind.

 

[maravan91]

The first trade convoy carrying goods for export through the western route of China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and a Chinese ship arrived at Gwadar Port on Nov 12, 2016.

According to official sources, while one Chinese ship has been anchored at Gwadar Port, another is expected to reach on Saturday. The goods would be exported through Gwadar port to Middle East and African countries.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1228780/first-chinese-trade-convoy-arrives-gwadar-cpec/



You need to learn that the port doesnt run on your criteria or needs. Gwadar port got operational in Nov 2016 and trading has begun. Every process is slow at start and will pick up in coming years. Many companies and containers already have contracts on different routes and trading which cannot change and be shifted to Gwadar over night.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1229387/new-era-gwadar-port-begin-trade-activities-today/

Gwadar port is operational for more than decade.
https://www.dawn.com/news/238494

 

[elf]

Karakoram highway was there for last 4 decades. Gwadar port is operational since 2008. Still 99% of your trade with china is happening via sea route.[/QUOTE]

in which century u r living? karakoram highway is replaced by new route which is

It is discussion forum. If you r claiming something you hav to provide sources to support your claim

i have provided but u are not in the condition of digesting those proofs...

 

[Signalian]

I never disputed ports benefit to Pakistan. My questions is why u expect chinese will ship their goods via gwadar port when they hav cheaper sea route.

Had you done your research, i wouldnt be replying this to you.A major reason is that the alternative sea routes are monitored constantly by USA and its allies. If you have a look at the map, the other sea route is longer also so there is a distance and cost factor involved too.