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No, the Kashmir conflict is not experiencing an ideological shift

Modi is another Chutiya who has a lot of Bhakts on this forum .

Yes, Modi handled Kashmir pretty badly. However, only BJP has the guts to change the demography of Kashmir. Congress should have done that before 1990's when Kashmir was peaceful. Kashmir problem is the congress creation. ...from taking to UN to rigged election in 1990.
 
Yes, Modi handled Kashmir pretty badly. However, only BJP has the guts to change the demography of Kashmir. Congress should have done that before 1990's when Kashmir was peaceful. Kashmir problem is the congress creation. ...from taking to UN to rigged election in 1990.

Modi can't do nothing till he has balls to speak against cow-wadis who are lynching peeople across India . London stabbing me bayan dene ka time hai per saale ke paas India me jo uske bhakt logo ko lynch kar rae hai unko kuch nae bola aajtak not even "shok" .
 
Modi can't do nothing till he has balls to speak against cow-wadis who are lynching peeople across India . London stabbing me bayan dene ka time hai per saale ke paas India me jo uske bhakt logo ko lynch kar rae hai unko kuch nae bola aajtak not even "shok" .

Yes, what Modi and BJP are not realizing is that their policy on cows, Hindi vs non Hindi and religion will only weaken India. Most of the BJP policies on beef ban, freedom to Gau Rakshaks, and BJPs religious agenda are having effect on the Kashmir valley.
 
I do not understand where jihad stops and radicalism starts.
 
I agree with the article . There is no ideological shift . This has always been about Radical Islam and JiHAHAdis since they chased away kashmiri pandits from the valley to create a Islamic state . Since then terrorists have always been more or less of a target practice and always will be one .
Precisely.
 
Really genius??? Are you saying it isn't about you plagiarizing a few key words from today's islamaphobes or from the war on terror and applying it on the entire kashmiri nation?

So give me five things about the entire kashmiri nation that makes them adherents of "radical Islam"? .... With actual evidences
Chased away Hindu minority
Want to establish Islamic State.
Use and support terrorists and islam
Fly the green Muslim flag and black Isis flag
Use jihad as tool for terror which is the hallmark of radical islam

Just chase away 6 million Muslims from the valley. I want the land don't want thenpeople there.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus

Keep waiting . We will assimilate Kashmiris, by force. if need be just like China ingested tibet and XinJiang .

Well then... forceful assimilation sounds more like terrorism... or Radical Hindutva

Chased away Hindu minority
Want to establish Islamic State.
Use and support terrorists and islam
Fly the green Muslim flag and black Isis flag
Use jihad as tool for terror which is the hallmark of radical islam

Just chase away 6 million Muslims from the valley. I want the land don't want thenpeople there.


I'm those are you statements... can you provide pictorial or video evidence of all kashmiris doing as you say.

Well at least you admit you want to exterminate the native people to occupy their land... sounds like terrorism to me.. Thanks for admitting!
 
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No, the Kashmir conflict is not experiencing an ideological shift

Recent reports in the western and Indian press claim that Kashmir's freedom movement is coming under the influence of "radical Islam". This narrative is out of step with reality, and ignores the founding principles of Kashmir's indigenous struggle.

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Indian policemen stand guard during a curfew in Srinagar, Indian-administered Kashmir in 2016.

A militant commander in Kashmir recently announced that he was fighting for establishing sharia, not for an independent nation or the embattled region’s merger with Pakistan — the two main goals of the 70-year-old Kashmiri resistance movement. The ensuing analyses of the commander’s pronouncements in the international and Indian media have tried to frame this development as an ideological "shift" in the movement.

The new generation of Kashmiri militants, it is being argued, is increasingly drifting toward the path of the Taliban, al Qaeda and other such groups driven by radical Islam. Such readings of the Kashmir insurgency disregard several important factors.

Hizbul Mujahideen, Kashmir's largest indigenous militant group that commander Zakir Musa was leading, distanced itself from his comments. Musa quit the day after.

His comments were not well received by even the most ardent supporters of the movement who often post pro-freedom messages on Facebook and Twitter at the risk of persecution. Some even suggested that he “leave Kashmir and join ISIS in Iraq”. Prior to Musa’s remarks, the political leadership of the resistance had categorically stated that ISIS, al Qaeda and the Taliban have no role in Kashmir’s struggle.

In the past too, people have reacted to any perceived turn towards extremism. Asiya Andrabi is the only female resistance leader who has been booked 20 times under a draconian law, the Public Safety Act, which empowers authorities to detain anybody for up to six months without a trial. She supports jihad and sharia. Years ago, her cadres would throw coloured water on women who refused her diktat to wear burqa. On a few occasions, she and her small band of supporters barged into restaurants and publicly shamed couples. Her actions were hardly endorsed by her fellows in the resistance camp, or the people in general. She is highly respected for her pro-freedom sentiments but remains a marginal figure in the hierarchy of the leadership.

Alarmist narratives that see an ideological shift towards global Islamic movements often overlook and underestimate regulatory mechanisms within the Kashmiri resistance movement. A movement that has retained a deeply political foundation – informed by religion, ethnicity and identity.

Sensationalist narratives tend to amplify minor developments on the militant side of the movement, but downplay the wider political canvas. By privileging only the past 28 years – which are marked by an armed insurgency running alongside a political movement – significant political markers over the course of more than four decades are brushed aside.

Besides, Musa, a 22-year-old former engineering student, is not an ideologue. His invocation of sharia or a caliphate cannot be read in the same frame as those of global Islamist leaders. In fact, in October last year, Musa said in a video speech that “we have received many requests from our Sikh brothers to let them join us”.

“God willing, we will try and make an exclusive group for Sikhs,” Musa said while asking the migrant Kashmiri Hindus to “return to their homes”.

“We take responsibility of their safety, they should look at those Pandits who never left Kashmir,” he said, a far cry from the xenophobic attitude of most radical groups.

These reassurances and appeals to minorities and his recent statements will appear contradictory unless seen in the larger framework of the movement.

What Musa said echoes the Kashmir Valley’s past in the early years of the insurgency. People used to chant “yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e-Mustafa” (The Prophet’s code will rule here). Militants killed each other over whether Kashmir should be independent, or become part of Pakistan, about a quarter of a century ago – not over varying interpretations of Islam.

A couple of Afghan and Sudanese militants fought alongside their Kashmiri counterparts in the mid-90s but after they were killed no foreign militant has ever stepped foot into Kashmir. A militant from Pakistan is not considered a foreigner by Kashmiris because the country is a party to the dispute. Al Qaeda or the Pakistani Taliban might have evinced interest in “liberating Kashmir from infidels”, but do we see their footprints, even in Pakistan-administered Kashmir?

Labelled as an unbending “hardliner” and “hawk”, the octogenarian patriarch of Kashmiri resistance Syed Ali Geelani has repeatedly said that implementation of the UN Resolutions about Kashmir, which call for holding a plebiscite, is the only solution to the Kashmir dispute. He has said if people choose India, he would have no issues, although an Islamic nation would be his personal choice. When was the last time a “radical Islamist” appealed to an international body?

The Kashmiri resistance movement is not a symptom or a by-product of global Islamic movements. Its struggle begins in the 1930s against a tyrannical Hindu monarchy and predates the Palestine struggle, and the rise of various pan-Islamic movements. A deliberate attempt to link it with such movements sows confusion.

One cannot ignore the fact that many Kashmiris are catapulted into militancy as a response to the Indian state’s brutality. According to a senior police official, JM Gillani, 95 of the 110 Kashmiri militants active today picked up arms just last year. These fresh recruits cannot be looked at in isolation from the recent unprecedented state repression.

Last year’s uprising triggered by the killing of iconic Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani, whom Musa had replaced, witnessed the killing of about a 100 street protesters and the world’s first mass-blinding caused by pellet guns. More than a thousand people lost full or partial eyesight when government forces fired thousands of lead pellets into protesters. About 6000 protesters were treated for serious injuries at just one hospital in Srinagar, Kashmir’s capital. A total of 15,000 people were injured and about 8000 were arrested.

Several stories documenting the lives of many of the militants killed during the past year have pointed out that relentless persecution by government forces had forced them to pick up arms. A sizable number of these militants had participated in the two major uprisings in 2008 and 2010, both marked by peaceful protests that were put down with ruthless force. At least 170 people were killed and hundreds injured during the uprisings. The popularity of militancy rose phenomenally because state violence and repression did not come to an end, despite the transformation of the movement from a markedly armed one, to a peaceful one in 2008.

If there is a turn towards radicalism at all, it is more evident in the acts of the Indian state, whose 1.2 million strong army – the second largest in the world – recently awarded an officer for tying a Kashmiri man to a vehicle, to act as a human shield from protesters throwing stones at soldiers.

Source: TRT World
http://www.trtworld.com/opinion/no-...-not-experiencing-an-ideological-shift-368219

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They day when the Pandits,Sikhs and other minorities took a mass exodus from valley .This so called indigenious were finished .
Now there is only one ideological shift persists. Either Islamic State or Radical Wahhabbism.

That is for the kashmiri nation to decide... whether they are or are not a nation... not you.

Anyways, I asked for proof kashmiris are adopting "radical Islam" as a whole nation... still waiting for pictorial evidences to pour in...

Proof .?
Pandits themselves had been witnesed the Friday preaches and regular Mosque teachings that 'Kashmir is for Pakistan.We dont want Pandit men here but we need Pandit woman'.

Yes, what Modi and BJP are not realizing is that their policy on cows, Hindi vs non Hindi and religion will only weaken India. Most of the BJP policies on beef ban, freedom to Gau Rakshaks, and BJPs religious agenda are having effect on the Kashmir valley.

It is not their problem.Hardline right wingers are always persisted in India .Such stuffs were happened even during UPA time but then their favourite topic was corruption .When BJP comes that cow ,this shit ,that shit etc.

Modi can't do nothing till he has balls to speak against cow-wadis who are lynching peeople across India . London stabbing me bayan dene ka time hai per saale ke paas India me jo uske bhakt logo ko lynch kar rae hai unko kuch nae bola aajtak not even "shok" .

Banning of beef in North India was done by Congress not BJP (was non existent at that time).
 
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Banning of beef in North India was done by Congress not BJP (was non existent at that time).

Phir modi ki Cow-wadis ko criticize karne me kyu fatt rae hai . He has time to address london stabbings but no time to comment on almost weekly lynching of people over a god damned cow. We used to make fun of Manmohan singh for not speaking but modi is even his boss when it comes to that .
 
Phir modi ki Cow-wadis ko criticize karne me kyu fatt rae hai . He has time to address london stabbings but no time to comment on almost weekly lynching of people over a god damned cow. We used to make fun of Manmohan singh for not speaking but modi is even his boss when it comes to that .

Why ?
There are hundreds of people dies in this nation .Through killings,assassination etc .
Why should he give importance to one subject ?
That too even under the dominance of state govts .
Oh please What happened in London was IS terrorist attacks .Then British should also have tell to Gordon Brown to keep silence when Mumbai attack happened .
Right?

And RSS also rejected this acts of hardline right wingers.
 
Why ?
There are hundreds of people dies in this nation .Through killings,assassination etc .
Why should he give importance to one subject ?
That too even under the dominance of state govts .
Oh please What happened in London was IS terrorist attacks .Then British should also have tell to Gordon Brown to keep silence when Mumbai attack happened .
Right?

And RSS also rejected this acts of hardline right wingers.

LOL what a weak defence . What is happening in India over cow is nothing less than terrorism.
Beat poor muslims up and force them to chant "jai Shree Ram" . **** these cow mata fanatics .
But Since these acts of terrorism has sanction from NAGPUR modi will remain mute . Thats the best he can do .
 
LOL what a weak defence . What is happening in India over cow is nothing less than terrorism.
Beat poor muslims up and force them to chant "jai Shree Ram" . **** these cow mata fanatics .
But Since these acts of terrorism has sanction from NAGPUR modi will remain mute . Thats the best he can do .

Are you hundred percent sure that such things didnt happpened during UPA and Congress rules .?
Why did the Congress banned the beef in North Indian states ?
Why should they suspend two Congress workers in Kerala that slaughtered a calf in the name of beef fest ?
That is my friend the weakest argument.

LOL what a weak defence . What is happening in India over cow is nothing less than terrorism.
Beat poor muslims up and force them to chant "jai Shree Ram" . **** these cow mata fanatics .
But Since these acts of terrorism has sanction from NAGPUR modi will remain mute . Thats the best he can do .

And it was the RSS that outrightly criticised such hardliners that reduces Hinduism in to a kitchen religion.
 

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