No, the Kashmir conflict is not experiencing an ideological shift

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistanis are not similar to Indians, two completely different people. Categorising the genetic makeup of both Pakistanis and Indians as similar is bullshit.

I or any of my family members have no similar looks to Indians, just the thought of it makes me sick.

Everyone knows this to be true. It's extreme deceptive propaganda that claims that Pakistanis and indians are the "same people". The same propaganda machine that claimed Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Pakistanis have nothing to do with Indians.

 

[Unite & Defend]

The only people that claim we are the same race are; traitors that want to be part of some kind of sick union, with Hindus ruling; white people that just see brown people; and Indians themselves, due to the envy and obsession they have for us.

 

[MultaniGuy]

We Pakistanis have nothing to do with Indians.

We have different ethnicities. different cultures. different foods, different everything.

 

[Hulk]

LOL if you need "actual evidence" you are not aware about history of KASHMIR VALLEY AT ALL .

They don't really care to find the truth. People tend to believe in narrative they like. Their narrative is that Kashmir should become Pakistan. Its does not matter to them how many holes are there in their theory.
1) Jammu and Ladakh want to remain with India. So it's not consensus.
2) They have never completed the step 1 of sequential UN resolution.
3) In the valley there are a good bit of people with Indian support, they are not allowed to express and threatened.

Kashmir is like Syria. A lot of people do not want war and might not care about ISSI but is their voice coming out in conflict nope. The world does not care about Kashmir and Pakistan can never get it out of hands of India. Kashmiri who does not like it will meet 72 virgins if they become violent.

 

[illusion8]

Salafism/wahaabism has permeated into the valley, there are growing number of salafi mosques that's rearing it's head. Estimated 35% of the sunni muslim population of the valley have become radical islamists - or are heading on that path.

This is the batch from where terrorists come out. Many of these are hardcore isis supporters ably helped and supported from across the border, namely hizb.

Many of them aspire to join isis in syria and iraq, while many want a Islamic state in the valley.

It is very much a radical islamic conflict, because it's only the sunni population of the valley that are involved.

 

[prashantazazel]

If you want secularism, follow secular laws as you do in the west. Both parties are guilty on this count. Hindus kills for cows, Muslims kill for insult to religion/prophet, or upon drawing of the prophet.
Initially, Muslims used to kill over inter faith marriages; now Hindus do the same.
Feudal mentality hasn't left most of us.

Better to fight the ideology, than to fight the person.

 

[Clutch]

C'mon... at least get your equivalences right!

What you meant is that anyone DENYING the Holocaust and then being called Nazi would also accuse gratuitous labelling.

Ok chill out. I would love to hear your views. Maybe you are not hypocritical in the sense that you don't use the word Islamophobe while harbouring bigotry about people of other religions yourself.

However, IMO, it would be best to avoid labelling people indiscriminately as it is this labelling business that has polarized the world today to such an extent. These words have been used so often that they have lost all meaning.

In fact, true bigots will wear your accusation of "Islamophobia" as a badge of honour. The only people you will end up hurting are those who care about being right in what they do.

Depends which side of the fence you sit on... for a Nazi or an Islamaphobe facts are all relative.

 

[Zibago]

Anyone who say Kashmiri separatist movement is not centered around Islamic ideology is a fool. The main reason these separatist wants to merge with Pakistan is because Pakistan is a Muslim country.

And India acting like a Hindu country is also a reason

 

[Zibago]

"Kashmiri Nation" lol . Exodus of KP under threat of rapes and killings is proof enough .

How many were killed ?Dont compare two things that cannot be compared

 

[Zibago]

Salafism/wahaabism has permeated into the valley, there are growing number of salafi mosques that's rearing it's head. Estimated 35% of the sunni muslim population of the valley have become radical islamists - or are heading on that path.

This is the batch from where terrorists come out. Many of these are hardcore isis supporters ably helped and supported from across the border, namely hizb.

Many of them aspire to join isis in syria and iraq, while many want a Islamic state in the valley.

It is very much a radical islamic conflict, because it's only the sunni population of the valley that are involved.

It has less to do with Wahabism more to do with the attrocities committed by the occupational forces

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

As I have stated many times earlier and I still maintain.. the Kashmir issue is NOT religious. It is Civilisational, Ethnic conflict.

An alien race is trying to keep hold on a real estate populated by Kashmiri race, fundamentally different from the people of Gangeez.

This colonisation effort can NEVER succeed... it never does. Our indian friends must look at their recent history under the British.

That Kashmir being part of Indus Civlisation will repel indians of Ganga is natural.

Only through Peaceful retreat of indians from the J&K...this will be solved...then it is upto J&K peoples to decide their Destiny...with Pak or with Pak. It is their choice. Either way Kashmiris are part of People of Indus.

Kashmiris just happen to be muslims...and indians have been trying so hard to create a narrative of islamic fundamentalism there so that they can gain sympathy from the West... indians shall fail.

 

[gayMo]

Well then... forceful assimilation sounds more like terrorism... or Radical Hindutva




I'm those are you statements... can you provide pictorial or video evidence of all kashmiris doing as you say.

Well at least you admit you want to exterminate the native people to occupy their land... sounds like terrorism to me.. Thanks for admitting!

Islam is not native.

 

[G0dfather]

the Kashmir issue is NOT religious. It is Civilisational, Ethnic conflict.

An alien race is trying to keep hold on a real estate populated by Kashmiri race, fundamentally different from the people of Gangeez.

Are Kashmiri Pandits of valley, Hindus of Jammu ,Buddhist of Ladakh and Shias of North Kashmir also part of Indus valley OR are they part of Gangeez ??


@SarthakGanguly

 

[Khan_21]

Thousands of People attending Funeral of a slain commander last night . Goes on to show the amount of local support these people have .